tartofmidlothian Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 Loved his kamikaze dribble out of the box, even though I was screaming for him to stop it while it was happening. Had a fair bit to do and only one error that I saw. I like the guy, especially if Jorg is happy with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular John Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 I thought he was atrocious today. Quicker we get him emptied and replaced by a safer pair of hands the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handofgod2015 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 He would be a good keeper if he could save shots. But he cant. Was praying for him to be part of the Bruno Fernandes deal at Man United Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 Terrible goalie although perhaps not too bad a sweeper. I await the new, fashionable cliche. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 Finding a Goalkeepers is a summer job. Good ones are like hens teeth as it is. We'll just have to hope we outscored our opponents and he doesn't have to face many shots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romulus Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, Regular John said: I thought he was atrocious today. Quicker we get him emptied and replaced by a safer pair of hands the better. This I’m afraid. Not many negatives to take from today but I would hope we are looking at bringing a GK in this window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 Pulled the defence out the proverbial a couple of times today tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ducatiboy Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 Makes you appreciate how lucky we have been in the past with our keepers, oh for a another Niemi... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenaciousdandy Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 It reminded me of the scene in mean machine when statham was being smart then got the ball nicked from him lol thankfully that didn't happen today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Laff Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 11 minutes ago, been here before said: Terrible goalie although perhaps not too bad a sweeper. I await the new, fashionable cliche. He’s not even a decent sweeper, I thought he was going to slice it behind him instead of into N that time in the first half we really need a solid reliable goalie. They all have mistakes in them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamborich Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 14 minutes ago, tartofmidlothian said: Loved his kamikaze dribble out of the box, even though I was screaming for him to stop it while it was happening. Had a fair bit to do and only one error that I saw. I like the guy, especially if Jorg is happy with him. You sound like Airdrie were in the game (had a fair bit to do) nah he did what he had to do but not the answer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EIEIO Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 12 minutes ago, Gambo said: Pulled the defence out the proverbial a couple of times today tbh. That was my take on it too. People like to moan though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot since 86 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 (edited) I thought his handling was much improved today and bailed Halkett out a couple of times. He is a bit unorthodox but he could be a good keeper. Wont be the long term answer at Hearts though. Edited January 18, 2020 by Hot since 86 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glottis Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 If Clare gets injured, he could probably do a job at right back. Also reckon with the power in his kicking, could he hit direct free kicks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schevchenko Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 I think he is class an just what we need to play this system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greedy Jambo Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 18 minutes ago, tartofmidlothian said: Loved his kamikaze dribble out of the box, even though I was screaming for him to stop it while it was happening. Had a fair bit to do and only one error that I saw. I like the guy, especially if Jorg is happy with him. He's great with his feet and his distribution of the ball is better than anything we've had. Normal goal keeping tasks he's not the best at but he's still learning. He's not ours though and Man U have been trying add him into player deals, so we really need to find a new keeper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 10 minutes ago, Gambo said: Pulled the defence out the proverbial a couple of times today tbh. This in spades. It’s a running theme this season. Zlamal was shite because he couldn’t read Berra’s mind and now Pereira’s shite because Souttar’s too slow and Halkett has the touch of an elephant. Overall I’m delighted with the performance today, but once again I’m left thinking WTF??? in relation to our back two (and that’s supposed to be our first pick). What’s worse is that Smith seemed to get himself injured throwing himself into a challenge to clean up a Souttar brain fart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cisco1914 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 9 minutes ago, Schevchenko said: I think he is class an just what we need to play this system. Agree with you mate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_A wehatethehibs Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 It’s his first clean sheet since October so, today’s a day to look at the positives. Well done to Joel and to all the defence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spirt of 98 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 Just may be Sievers can make a keeper out of him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfhearts Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 Great sweeper and first class distribution the rest average but miles better than other 2, am happy enough till Daniel brings his own man next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsalldothebeattie Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 Think he looked a bit more comfortable today. Think half his issues have been uncertainty with Berra in front of him now we have Souttar & Halkett partnered together again we should hopefully get a better keeper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 He’s an accident waiting to happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 I'd have Craig Nelson ahead of Joel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllyjamboDerbyshire Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 In his defence he caught the ball twice above his head, so new coach, Sievers, must be working hard with him. Still, the Airdrie keeper, that most of us I doubt have ever heard of, made one, at least, better save than we'll ever see Pereira make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Gashauskis9 said: This in spades. It’s a running theme this season. Zlamal was shite because he couldn’t read Berra’s mind and now Pereira’s shite because Souttar’s too slow and Halkett has the touch of an elephant. Overall I’m delighted with the performance today, but once again I’m left thinking WTF??? in relation to our back two (and that’s supposed to be our first pick). What’s worse is that Smith seemed to get himself injured throwing himself into a challenge to clean up a Souttar brain fart. Almost as if it was two young players, both coming back from serious injury, both playing together properly for the first time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Buck Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 He’s ****ing shite. Should be a centre mid though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 Another vote for shite. Willing to come flying out of his box but not yet off his line for things in his area. Kind of indecisive keeper that kills defenders confidence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diadora Van Basten Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 He has great feet and a good footballing brain. Having watched various Hearts keepers panic when a player come within 30 yards and hoof it long. It’s nice to have a keeper with a bit of composure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Cruyff said: Finding a Goalkeepers is a summer job. Good ones are like hens teeth as it is. We'll just have to hope we outscored our opponents and he doesn't have to face many shots. Are they? I mean honestly, at our level we just need a good shot stopper. Jamie MacDonald is a good shot stopper. If a goalkeeper isn't a good stopper they have no business playing at our level. Pereira isn't a good shot stopper Bobby is a better shot stopper but clearly inspires no confidence in his defence Doyle is leaving hopefully soon. I would say every club in the league has a better first choice keeper than us because they are better shot stoppers. Being able to play football means nothing if you can't save very savable shots. I think come the summer (if not before) we will sign a first choice keeper head and shoulders better than what we have. Levein has done absolutely nothing right in the last 12 months. His choice of keepers has been utterly baffling. (I can't believe I'm about to say this) Hibs have 3 keepers all of which are better than what we have. Its soul crushing we have failed so miserably to cover such a crucial position with the bare minimum that the position demands. Gordon can't be happy sitting on Celtics bench when he's already lost 2 years of his career to injury. That would be my choice, good enough and old enough to bridge the gap for Harry Stone to come in before stepping back. I'd hope Celtic would respect the time he's given them and allow him to move on. Obviously wishful thinking but not unheard of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 11 minutes ago, Mr Elwood P said: Almost as if it was two young players, both coming back from serious injury, both playing together properly for the first time? Pereira’s only 23 and has never played with Halkett and Souttar together as well. My point is we seem to have adopted a “blame the keeper first” culture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 1 minute ago, OTT said: Are they? I mean honestly, at our level we just need a good shot stopper. Jamie MacDonald is a good shot stopper. If a goalkeeper isn't a good stopper they have no business playing at our level. Pereira isn't a good shot stopper Bobby is a better shot stopper but clearly inspires no confidence in his defence Doyle is leaving hopefully soon. I would say every club in the league has a better first choice keeper than us because they are better shot stoppers. Being able to play football means nothing if you can't save very savable shots. I think come the summer (if not before) we will sign a first choice keeper head and shoulders better than what we have. Levein has done absolutely nothing right in the last 12 months. His choice of keepers has been utterly baffling. (I can't believe I'm about to say this) Hibs have 3 keepers all of which are better than what we have. Its soul crushing we have failed so miserably to cover such a crucial position with the bare minimum that the position demands. Gordon can't be happy sitting on Celtics bench when he's already lost 2 years of his career to injury. That would be my choice, good enough and old enough to bridge the gap for Harry Stone to come in before stepping back. I'd hope Celtic would respect the time he's given them and allow him to move on. Obviously wishful thinking but not unheard of. I'd disagree, if they aren't then why have we struggled to find a permanent solution in goals? I also disagree that they just need to be a competent shot stopper. The games moved on. Keepers can no longer just be good at stopping shots and get away with punting it up the park. I think with the way we play with a high line, we need someone that can sweep and distribute well too. They need to be good at everything. I believe that's very important. The amount of possession lost by poor Goalkeeping distribution costs goals. Craig Gordon imo isn't the answer. He is not a long term solution. He is injury prone. He is getting on and his demands will still be high. He's not remotely worth it. I've always believed that the goalkeeping position is probably the most key position on the park and we need to invest properly in that position and scour the earth to ensure we find a top notch keeper for this level. It's certainly not going to happen this window but I'm sure that both Stendel & Sievers will have a much broader knowledge of Goalkeepers in places we may not and I'm sure they'll be on the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 12 minutes ago, Gashauskis9 said: Pereira’s only 23 and has never played with Halkett and Souttar together as well. My point is we seem to have adopted a “blame the keeper first” culture. I thought it was all Berra’s fault? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 Wasnt bad today. Couple of good catches and only s few crazy moments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Buck Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 I heard Gordon is a done deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyRightPeg Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Schevchenko said: I think he is class an just what we need to play this system. I agree with this. His distribution was fantastic today, held everything that came towards him. The rush out the box resulting is the dribble is the only real fault I could find today, would’ve been boring without it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tian447 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 28 minutes ago, Sir Gio said: Another vote for shite. Willing to come flying out of his box but not yet off his line for things in his area. Kind of indecisive keeper that kills defenders confidence Noticed this today, comes out when the ball is free, but never when under any pressure! I think he could be a good player, at a reasonable level, but Jesus, he's getting nowhere near the Man United team! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deans Jambo Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 (edited) Think he done alright. Can see why people were panicking with his dribble outside the box. We will definitely need a 'modern style' keeper if we are to play so offensively as their distribution will need to be spot on, confidence to play passes with the centre halfs and pick out a long pass when required. Edited January 18, 2020 by Deans Jambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 He did fine. He’s not a world beater right now but I think he has potential. I think Colt will help him. New keeper in the summer, hopefully Adam Davies... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cairneyhill Jambo Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 Jeezo. We've just won 5-0 yet folk are still trying to find something to moan about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull's-eye Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 Nil. Not really worth mentioning anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Marvin said: I'd have Craig Nelson ahead of Joel. Too far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 50 minutes ago, Uncle Buck said: I heard Gordon is a done deal. I look forward to the first thread about his dreadful distribution and nerves when the ball is played back to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettigrewsstylist Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 Nah! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deans Jambo Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 Could be worse, could still have Jack Hamilton as our no.1 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 Getting better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMFC 86 Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 19 minutes ago, Deans Jambo said: Could be worse, could still have Jack Hamilton as our no.1 😂 absolutely, another howler from him today, boy specialises in them sorry to say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodLord Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 I think Bobby and Doyle have both done their bit to make him look better than he is. Chocolate wrists and erratic decision making. All that said his distribution is actually very decent and maybe a run of undefeated games would do him power of good but still gives me the fear every time someone shoots with any power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 9 hours ago, Tazio said: Too far ok maybe it was a tad extreme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenbo Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 Thought he did OK yesterday (manic dribbling outside box aside). With the right training i think he could develop into a decent keeper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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