vegas-voss Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 My worry now cause I have gave up with most of the dross we have is we will dilly and dally the whole window and end up with more shite.Like someone else said we need two CB , two midfielders at least and two forwards that can score. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William H. Bonney Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Wishful thinking. Hard to imagine any funds being available unless we punt hickey . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Attracting the necessary players may prove difficult given our position in the league. Never before has it been so important Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo diehard Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 My major concern is how much do we have to spend? I'd said previously Jan prices are often inflated and for whatbee need do we have the cash? A creative, passing CM is a must, also a DC, if we have cash it MUST be spent 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
husref musemic Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 I've said it elsewhere. The goon squad that assembled this squad will just replace them with the same. we need that sorted first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo diehard Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Husref, Fair point, we cannot afford to make similar signing mistakes again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1986 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 We’re in a very tough position......we’re not in a great position to be handing out contracts all over the place. I suspect we’ll go with more loanees than anything and look at summer rebuild. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1986 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, husref musemic said: I've said it elsewhere. The goon squad that assembled this squad will just replace them with the same. we need that sorted first. Craig Levein is no longer involved in player recruitment for the first team. You should really have got that by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambos_1874 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 (edited) We should focus on trimming the squad down by either sending players on loan or selling them. Having a squad of this size is not sensible. That would hopefully free up some funds for players of quality. Quality, not quantity. Edited December 21, 2019 by Jambos_1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambogirlglasgow Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Just now, Jambos_1874 said: If we can't recruit we should focus on trimming the squad down by either sending players on loan or selling them. Having a squad of this size is not sensible. I hear this all the time but genuine question. Who would buy any of our players? We won’t be able to give them away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cameron79 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 What concerns me is that we havent even got Stendel the backroom staff he needs. Yet the Gorgie Rasputin and his minions still linger. Theres so much work to do. I just hope it's all in place to press the button early january. The same ruthlessness as budgement day is needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambos_1874 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Just now, jambogirlglasgow said: I hear this all the time but genuine question. Who would buy any of our players? We won’t be able to give them away. Good point. If they have a good agent perhaps they could engineer a move away. Also, clubs may take the view that a player doesn't fit in with our playing style (not that we have one) but is exactly what their club are looking for. I hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam_the_legend Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 8 minutes ago, 1971fozzy said: Attracting the necessary players may prove difficult given our position in the league. Never before has it been so important Exactly, we’re hardly an attractive proposition right now. It’ll be a struggle to get quality in. Hopefully DS can work some magic cos I certainly am not putting any faith in McPhee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hansel Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 We will not be in a strong bargaining position. At the mercy of greedy agents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 9 minutes ago, DH1986 said: Craig Levein is no longer involved in player recruitment for the first team. You should really have got that by now. Levein wasnt the only problem though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Laff Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 9 minutes ago, DH1986 said: Craig Levein is no longer involved in player recruitment for the first team. You should really have got that by now. Nah one of his bitches are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 7 minutes ago, cameron79 said: What concerns me is that we havent even got Stendel the backroom staff he needs. Yet the Gorgie Rasputin and his minions still linger. Theres so much work to do. I just hope it's all in place to press the button early january. The same ruthlessness as budgement day is needed. This is a genuine worry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 21 minutes ago, Dino Velvet said: Wishful thinking. Hard to imagine any funds being available unless we punt hickey . Budge personally has millions - she is massively responsible for the position we are in so frankly “dip in tae yer purse hen!” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
husref musemic Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 13 minutes ago, DH1986 said: Craig Levein is no longer involved in player recruitment for the first team. You should really have got that by now. thanks im aware of that. I'm talking about John Murray (still here).& associates in the recruitment dept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo-Jambo Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 14 minutes ago, jambogirlglasgow said: I hear this all the time but genuine question. Who would buy any of our players? We won’t be able to give them away. Exactly. Nobody will want these imposters and remember we need players to go to allow players to be brought in. Could be a rather large snag imo 😒. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S Form Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 The trouble is that John Murray obviously wouldn’t know a striker if he came up and booted him in the gonads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambogirlglasgow Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Just now, Robbo-Jambo said: Exactly. Nobody will want these imposters and remember we need players to go to allow players to be brought in. Could be a rather large snag imo 😒. I can’t see any of them wanting to leave, presumably for less than they’re on now. Where would Bozanic, Mulraney etc go? We’re stuck with these chronic imposters, sadly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo-Jambo Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, jambogirlglasgow said: I can’t see any of them wanting to leave, presumably for less than they’re on now. Where would Bozanic, Mulraney etc go? We’re stuck with these chronic imposters, sadly. Yip, ☹️. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambotony Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 How is this so hard for people to understand?? the ONLY person who will be responsible for choosing any players In or out of the club is Stendel!! Full stop, no ifs buts or maybes.. stendel and stendel alone will pick who he wants. AM’s only remit is to find clubs for the players STENDEL DOESNT WANT and recruit the players STENDEL CHOOSES.. no one else will pick or choose any player apart from Stendel is that clear enough?? Ann Budge has said players will need to be moved on to help with player in budgets! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveins Battalion Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Just now, jambotony said: How is this so hard for people to understand?? the ONLY person who will be responsible for choosing any players In or out of the club is Stendel!! Full stop, no ifs buts or maybes.. stendel and stendel alone will pick who he wants. AM’s only remit is to find clubs for the players STENDEL DOESNT WANT and recruit the players STENDEL CHOOSES.. no one else will pick or choose any player apart from Stendel is that clear enough?? Ann Budge has said players will need to be moved on to help with player in budgets! Nobody listens to Budge anymore,all credibility has gone.👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 We do need to act fast, and get in the players stendel feels he needs. I wonder if he will have targets already, rather than just positions he wants to strengthen and a list of qualities he wants for murray etc to go and find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fantana Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 20 minutes ago, cameron79 said: What concerns me is that we havent even got Stendel the backroom staff he needs. Yet the Gorgie Rasputin and his minions still linger. Theres so much work to do. I just hope it's all in place to press the button early january. The same ruthlessness as budgement day is needed. I don't think Budgement Day was as much her ruthlessness as if was Levein's. Said it before but it should have been named Rise of the Levein's given the level of control he's had over three different management teams. Recruitment has been a mess for long enough. I hope its Stendel or his contacts that are identifying potential signings as I wouldn't trust anyone involved with any of our scouting and identifying signings in the last 4 years to get it right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 The big problem is that we will no doubt be shopping in the loan market and that's never a good thing when your in a relegation battles. We should be favourites to go down tbh . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
south morocco Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 1 minute ago, jambotony said: How is this so hard for people to understand?? the ONLY person who will be responsible for choosing any players In or out of the club is Stendel!! Full stop, no ifs buts or maybes.. stendel and stendel alone will pick who he wants. AM’s only remit is to find clubs for the players STENDEL DOESNT WANT and recruit the players STENDEL CHOOSES.. no one else will pick or choose any player apart from Stendel is that clear enough?? Ann Budge has said players will need to be moved on to help with player in budgets! I really hope so. Will be interesting to see who comes in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambogirlglasgow Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, jambotony said: How is this so hard for people to understand?? the ONLY person who will be responsible for choosing any players In or out of the club is Stendel!! Full stop, no ifs buts or maybes.. stendel and stendel alone will pick who he wants. AM’s only remit is to find clubs for the players STENDEL DOESNT WANT and recruit the players STENDEL CHOOSES.. no one else will pick or choose any player apart from Stendel is that clear enough?? Ann Budge has said players will need to be moved on to help with player in budgets! How do you move contracted players on who are happy with their wage and would rather not play elsewhere for less? Can’t seem to get an answer to this question? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1986 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, jambotony said: How is this so hard for people to understand?? the ONLY person who will be responsible for choosing any players In or out of the club is Stendel!! Full stop, no ifs buts or maybes.. stendel and stendel alone will pick who he wants. AM’s only remit is to find clubs for the players STENDEL DOESNT WANT and recruit the players STENDEL CHOOSES.. no one else will pick or choose any player apart from Stendel is that clear enough?? Ann Budge has said players will need to be moved on to help with player in budgets! Someone understands. Maybe the rest will catch up after the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackLadd Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Get in the boy Dykes, even if it costs 750k. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_razors_edge Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Moving players on to balance the books is going to be the hard part. Who’s going to want to sign our dross? Defenders that can’t defend, strikers that can’t score, wingers that can’t cross, midfielders that only go backwards or sideways. Can’t see there being long queues of clubs gagging to sign players who’ve taken us to the bottom of the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOak88 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Problems; 1. We don’t have any money to pay transfer fees. 2. We have a bunch of dross in the team who will sit out their lengthy contracts picking up a generous wage. 3. Not many players are going to want to come in January to a club rooted to the bottom of the table. 4. MacPhee quite possibly involved in identifying targets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambotony Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Think the ones on contracts till the summer may be asked to have their contracts terminated or paid up so we can move them on..” a mutual consent “ type thing.. obviously those on 4 year deals won’t be moved on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambotony Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, TheOak88 said: Problems; 1. We don’t have any money to pay transfer fees. 2. We have a bunch of dross in the team who will sit out their lengthy contracts picking up a generous wage. 3. Not many players are going to want to come in January to a club rooted to the bottom of the table. 4. MacPhee quite possibly involved in identifying targets. No he’s not!! The only person “ identifying targets “ is Stendel this has been said and clarified and verified and confirmed but some people still want to peddle BS and rubbish to suit their arguments Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greedy Jambo Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 We can't have Macphee involved in recruitment for starters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOak88 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Just now, jambotony said: No he’s not!! The only person “ identifying targets “ is Stendel this has been said and clarified and verified and confirmed but some people still want to peddle BS and rubbish to suit their arguments Clarified by who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Laff Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 24 minutes ago, jambotony said: How is this so hard for people to understand?? the ONLY person who will be responsible for choosing any players In or out of the club is Stendel!! Full stop, no ifs buts or maybes.. stendel and stendel alone will pick who he wants. AM’s only remit is to find clubs for the players STENDEL DOESNT WANT and recruit the players STENDEL CHOOSES.. no one else will pick or choose any player apart from Stendel is that clear enough?? Ann Budge has said players will need to be moved on to help with player in budgets! Aye and Santa is real too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heisenberg86 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Honestly feel we’ll need to sell Hickey to City in January and loan him back, reinvest the fee back into the first team, preferably picking up a few players from other teams in the league that know what it’s about and see Hearts as a massive opportunity, if it means paying a bit over the odds so be it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E3OBE Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 (edited) - A Centre Half - A Centre Midfielder - Two Wingers - A Striker All pacey, all energetic. That’s the minimum required or we are without question getting relegated. Edited December 21, 2019 by E3OBE Mid-type Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 20 minutes ago, jambotony said: No he’s not!! The only person “ identifying targets “ is Stendel this has been said and clarified and verified and confirmed but some people still want to peddle BS and rubbish to suit their arguments Whether your correct or not correct Is almost irrelevant , this is as a result of strange decisions on the part of the part, keeping people on after they are fired is pretty bizarre behaviour.. I’m pretty sure it has not happened before - if it has it’s certainly not typical.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedStarRiot Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 1 hour ago, DH1986 said: We’re in a very tough position......we’re not in a great position to be handing out contracts all over the place. I suspect we’ll go with more loanees than anything and look at summer rebuild. Probably not an incentive for Man City when they player they gave us sits on the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Dont worry the recruitment is in safe hands with the football guru that is Austin McPhee. Charity Levein wont stick his useless nose in . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 26 minutes ago, jambotony said: No he’s not!! The only person “ identifying targets “ is Stendel this has been said and clarified and verified and confirmed but some people still want to peddle BS and rubbish to suit their arguments So Budge didnt say what she said about McPhee? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 I sure Stendel will have some players in mind to bring in to replace the duds we are carrying at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annushorribilis III Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 27 minutes ago, jambotony said: No he’s not!! The only person “ identifying targets “ is Stendel this has been said and clarified and verified and confirmed but some people still want to peddle BS and rubbish to suit their arguments How does he have time/resources to do this ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 25 minutes ago, Lord BJ said: We definately need movement in and out of squad in Jan. I’m a bit concerned about recruitment in Jan. Has DS ever scouted and bought his own players? Was that not done by others at his previous clubs. Does that then mean you have McPhee or John Murray scouting players?!?! That gives me zero confidence. Do we have the right structure and right people to recruit the right players? I’m not comvinced. John Murray is another one that needs hunted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrumpet Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 25 minutes ago, E3OBE said: - A Centre Half - A Centre Midfielder - Two Wingers - A Striker All pacey, all energetic. That’s the minimum required or we are without question getting relegated. You forgot a keeper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skodef Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Dino Velvet said: Wishful thinking. Hard to imagine any funds being available unless we punt hickey . Aye.Why oh why has she let Levein run this shitshow from last November holy shit unbelievable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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