The Real Maroonblood Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Vlad Magic said: Anyone who takes to the field in maroon gets second, third or even fourth chances in my eyes. However you are asking the JKB collective which is a strange concoction of genuine Hearts supporters like me, ****ing idiots from Stalk Hearts, ****ing idiots from .net and ****ing idiots who think they support Hearts but shout abuse at players, call for the head of the the only person to save us when we were well and truly ****ed. I think you get me meaning. A genuine Hearts fan like you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Barnsley fans thought the squad improved each and every one. Still might make a few simply not good enough. I'm afraid I just dont see Berra getting back to pre injury standards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greedy Jambo Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Obvious clean slate for everyone but i reckon a lot of them will end up punted if Skendel is as good as he's made out to be. Another costly exercise, thank you Craig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTS1874 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Definitely a clean slate although I don’t think it will be long before a few of them are found out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecN Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 I'd expect old guys, injured and unfit will have their cards marked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 I think he needs the chance to work with the players to see who fits in and who will progress to the levels required. I can’t see him doing anything with the three goalkeepers though, Periera should be returned to Man Utd and sign or loan another GK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad Magic Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 41 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said: A genuine Hearts fan like you. Correct. Making progress finally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spirt of 98 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Sergio said: Agreed but ffs never a player he knows himself he is shite Aye apparently Shiteton couldn’t believe it when Hearts signed him. Knows he’s gash and Dundee was his level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
it_hearts Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 1 hour ago, iantjambo said: How much you had? A few Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantjambo Posted December 6, 2019 Author Share Posted December 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, it_hearts said: A few Thought so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
it_hearts Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, iantjambo said: Thought so Spoonerism every day, with out drink lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanmillar Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 (edited) Willing to give every player a chance but might too far gone for some Edited December 6, 2019 by deanmillar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Yes. 100%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 It's a clean slate for me every time we play. Support the team and whoever else is involved. Doesn't matter what else is going on or what has happened. Other people choose to do something else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Feckin right, Ian. Good on you, my friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Ian Malcolm Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Yep. Despite the histrionics from some, it's not a shite squad. A change of style, new ideas in training and different demands could make a world of difference. As for whether it can work in Scotland, of course it can. He managed it in League One with Barnsley using mostly younger players. We have several internationals and generally a better level of player than they do/did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Happy to but at this rate the new manager will be appointed after the January window shuts so we'll be stuck with them anyway! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Just now, Geoff Kilpatrick said: Happy to but at this rate the new manager will be appointed after the January window shuts so we'll be stuck with them anyway! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 2 hours ago, Vlad Magic said: Anyone who takes to the field in maroon gets second, third or even fourth chances in my eyes. However you are asking the JKB collective which is a strange concoction of genuine Hearts supporters like me, ****ing idiots from Stalk Hearts, ****ing idiots from .net and ****ing idiots who think they support Hearts but shout abuse at players, call for the head of the the only person to save us when we were well and truly ****ed. I think you get me meaning. Such anger! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 2 hours ago, Vlad Magic said: Anyone who takes to the field in maroon gets second, third or even fourth chances in my eyes. However you are asking the JKB collective which is a strange concoction of genuine Hearts supporters like me, ****ing idiots from Stalk Hearts, ****ing idiots from .net and ****ing idiots who think they support Hearts but shout abuse at players, call for the head of the the only person to save us when we were well and truly ****ed. I think you get me meaning. ****** *** ******** * ***** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 2 hours ago, Noah Claypole said: Clean slate before every single game for me. I'm in the minority though and best ignored. We always do! 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunny Munro Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Completely agree. Clean slate for all. Except MacLean. MacLean can gtf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mugwump Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Even though I think there is a few players that we should never have signed, a clean slate, for all under a new manager seems reasonable to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG_HMFC Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Every player will absolutely get a clean slate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomethingAboutObua Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 I think it’s more a case of one good performance from individuals and I’ll reset my view. If Wighton plays well in his first game under him then I’ll give him the clean slate, same for everyone. But if they’re ineffectual or add nothing in the first game, it’ll be hard to keep giving guys like Clare more and more chances to impress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 4 hours ago, iantjambo said: Is everyone willing to wipe the slate clean with the players and see how they perform under a new manager? Or are there players that are beyond Hope? Personally, I’m willing to give everyone another chance. As much as I want to write off the Wightons and the Clares, I still think they can come good under a new gaffer. To be honest I think we've seen enough to form strong opinions who's good enough and who isn't. Can't see any shocks (with the exception of Sean Clare in an attacking role) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosanostra Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 All players will start with a clean slate but Levein has clearly lumbered us with some absolute dross. The squad needs wholesale changes and some are going to have to shape up very quickly or they'll be gone (hopefully). We need wingers, creative midfielders, full backs, a goalie, a centre half and probably 2 strikers. There are about 10 players that could leave tomorrow and it wouldn't make much difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosanostra Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Sad to say this but the new manager will have a decision to make with Berra as well. He's our captain but our 3rd best centre half. How sustainable is that? His form has been poor as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 5 hours ago, iantjambo said: Is everyone willing to wipe the slate clean with the players and see how they perform under a new manager? Or are there players that are beyond Hope? Personally, I’m willing to give everyone another chance. As much as I want to write off the Wightons and the Clares, I still think they can come good under a new gaffer. No, those that have been shit for ages are toast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Buck Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Nah not for some of them for me. I can accept players being shite if they give 100% week in week out. I can’t accept lack of effort. Bozanic and Clare are the two most spineless ***** I’ve ever seen at the club. Other than that I reckon the rest are saveable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMJ_1874 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 4 hours ago, Zlatanable said: always makes me laugh when people add an s to a footballers name. Your Maradonnas, your Messis, your Hagis, your Romarios its a genuinely funny moment What like Sean Claire’s Accessories you mean? He’d be better opening an accessory shop to sell of his old gear as he won’t have any use for it once he’s found out. Won’t make it as a footballer with a chicken heart. Steve MaClean can do one as well and Bozanic couldn’t cross the road never mind a ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 8 hours ago, Adam_the_legend said: Even a past it CG is better than the dross we have in goal at the moment. This Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CloustonHMFC Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 I still have my reservations about what players may or may not make it at Hearts but I’ll most definitely give them all a chance to show they belong here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantjambo Posted December 7, 2019 Author Share Posted December 7, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, Zlatanable said: always makes me laugh when people add an s to a footballers name. Your Maradonnas, your Messis, your Hagis, your Romarios its a genuinely funny moment Does it aye? It always makes me laugh when people don’t put full stops at the end of sentences and don’t begin them with capital letters. Oh and the ‘its’ in your last sentence is missing an apostrophe. That makes me giggle a bit too. Thanks for your brilliant input in this thread though. 👍🏻 Edited December 7, 2019 by iantjambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 57 minutes ago, iantjambo said: Does it aye? It always makes me laugh when people don’t put full stops at the end of sentences and don’t begin them with capital letters. Oh and the ‘its’ in your last sentence is missing an apostrophe. That makes me giggle a bit too. Thanks for your brilliant input in this thread though. 👍🏻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 11 hours ago, Dr Ian Malcolm said: Yep. Despite the histrionics from some, it's not a shite squad. A change of style, new ideas in training and different demands could make a world of difference. As for whether it can work in Scotland, of course it can. He managed it in League One with Barnsley using mostly younger players. We have several internationals and generally a better level of player than they do/did. A load of rubbish our players are dog poo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 14 hours ago, Vlad Magic said: Anyone who takes to the field in maroon gets second, third or even fourth chances in my eyes. However you are asking the JKB collective which is a strange concoction of genuine Hearts supporters like me, ****ing idiots from Stalk Hearts, ****ing idiots from .net and ****ing idiots who think they support Hearts but shout abuse at players, call for the head of the the only person to save us when we were well and truly ****ed. I think you get me meaning. Maybe you should run evening classes on how to support Hearts. Eventually the stands at Tynecastle could become like the Stepford Wives of football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 In answer to the OP. Yes. Clean slate. Different managers get different things from players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Ian Malcolm Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 56 minutes ago, Natural Orders said: A load of rubbish our players are dog poo Actually, yeah, you've convinced me otherwise with such a well researched and thought out argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tian447 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 You know for a fact they'll be given 45 minutes, 90 at best before the usual nonsense starts. Someone like Sean Clare will take a heavy touch straight after kick off, and some thick-as-mince arseholes will be right on his back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westbow Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 I was listening to Gary lineker talking about managers in his podcast the other week. Basically he said it doesn’t matter the quality of the manager if the players are rank. A good manager will get mediocre players playing well. Crappy players means nothing will change. A new manager will know this. Guaranteed clear out it is then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Landmesser Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Yep. Clean slate, fresh start, new era etc. Might be like getting an entirely new team. I'm even getting excited about the saint Johnstone match now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpship Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 17 hours ago, iantjambo said: Is everyone willing to wipe the slate clean with the players and see how they perform under a new manager? Or are there players that are beyond Hope? Personally, I’m willing to give everyone another chance. As much as I want to write off the Wightons and the Clares, I still think they can come good under a new gaffer. 100% A new manager can turn sh1t into caviar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad Magic Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 You don’t even have to name them. They stick their heads up shouting “it was me”!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Hunt Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 (edited) Clear out required. Some of them can go and find clean slates at other clubs and consider themselves very, very fortunate ever to have played for us in the first place. Be ruthless Stendel. Edited December 7, 2019 by Ethan Hunt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 6 hours ago, tian447 said: You know for a fact they'll be given 45 minutes, 90 at best before the usual nonsense starts. Someone like Sean Clare will take a heavy touch straight after kick off, and some thick-as-mince arseholes will be right on his back. Yeah the thick as mince arseholes are all wrong, Clare is a wonderful player if only - He gets a full pre-season He gets fully fit He plays with Naismith He gets used to Scottish football He gets used to Edinburgh He gets more confidence He gets played in the correct position Have I missed anything? 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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