Hansel Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 Hope he builds on that display on Sunday! Cracking lad and has talent. A very tough environment to play at Tynie when the fans don't take to you, but I really do feel that levein hasn't helped him by constantly picking him when he has been struggling for form. Also, chopping and changing his position all the time must be hard for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthomas Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 5 hours ago, Cruickshank for Scotland said: A player’s confidence can be shattered by many different people.....just ask Vanecek! A lot of things should be asked of Vanacek . Fitness , attitude , application etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 7 hours ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: Sad state of affairs when the team he plays for own supporters have shattered the lads confidence in my opinion you think it would be any different at other clubs? I’d suggest management playing him week in week out in a team massively struggling would be more to blame. He hasn’t performed at anywhere near an acceptable level.. despite glimpses of talent.. which make it all the more frustrating Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 7 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: you think it would be any different at other clubs? I’d suggest management playing him week in week out in a team massively struggling would be more to blame. He hasn’t performed at anywhere near an acceptable level.. despite glimpses of talent.. which make it all the more frustrating Spot on!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 I have never been SC's No1 fan but fair play to him. He has accepted that his performances have not been as good as they might be and that could possibly have been down to lack of confidence. The point is he has taken a positive step in affort to remedy the problem and for that I salute him. I hope for his sake and the team's that his action pays dividends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 33 minutes ago, JamboAl said: I have never been SC's No1 fan but fair play to him. He has accepted that his performances have not been as good as they might be and that could possibly have been down to lack of confidence. The point is he has taken a positive step in affort to remedy the problem and for that I salute him. I hope for his sake and the team's that his action pays dividends. We all hope that as Hearts fans Al. We have gone through a plethora of reasons for his poor performances over many months - hopefully he can turn it around now but I just can’t see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mscjambo Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 Alot of respect for him talking about what to all intents and purposes is a mental health issue. The pressures etc...and scrutiny. Not blaming people and talking about learning personally how to deal with it. Respect for speaking about it. Hopefully he can kick on performance wise too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoleto Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 5 hours ago, Cruickshank for Scotland said: We all hope that as Hearts fans Al. We have gone through a plethora of reasons for his poor performances over many months - hopefully he can turn it around now but I just can’t see it. I can see it. And I think most Hearts fans that watched his performance on Sunday saw it too. Some of us have recognised it before now of course and refused to see him being made a scapegoat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoleto Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 12 hours ago, Cruickshank for Scotland said: A player’s confidence can be shattered by many different people.....just ask Vanecek! Good evening David. Vanacek shattered his own confidence by being completely unprofessional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettigrewsstylist Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 Contract extension pse. Boys going to be worth big big bucks with a few more performances like Sunday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guffers Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 12 minutes ago, Spoleto said: I can see it. And I think most Hearts fans that watched his performance on Sunday saw it too. Some of us have recognised it before now of course and refused to see him being made a scapegoat. Scapegoat as in being blamed for the failure of others ? I’m not getting that at all Spoleto. Folk just don’t rate the boy based on his performances and application - He’s lucky Levein is there to take some of the heat off him. Fair play Sunday was a bit better from the lad but overall he’s simply been really poor. Why isn’t Michael Smith being used as a scapegoat ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 Just another victim from roasters who always have to have a scapegoat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 5 hours ago, Cruickshank for Scotland said: We all hope that as Hearts fans Al. We have gone through a plethora of reasons for his poor performances over many months - hopefully he can turn it around now but I just can’t see it. Who can say? On Sunday however he did play better and with more commitment and if that's a result of his early consultations then that's good. We'll just have to wait and see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Spoleto said: I can see it. And I think most Hearts fans that watched his performance on Sunday saw it too. Some of us have recognised it before now of course and refused to see him being made a scapegoat. 😂 - dont think anyone ever questioned his talent.. questioned his application and overall contribution.. he was one of our poorer players on Sunday btw. Largely anonymous as usual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 1 hour ago, JamboAl said: Who can say? On Sunday however he did play better and with more commitment and if that's a result of his early consultations then that's good. We'll just have to wait and see. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Spoleto said: I can see it. And I think most Hearts fans that watched his performance on Sunday saw it too. Some of us have recognised it before now of course and refused to see him being made a scapegoat. You seem to suggest that his performance on Sunday was some sort of personal game winning, man of the match stuff! It wasn’t - it was decent at best, however he has been so piss poor that anything resembling decent is viewed by roasters like you as a “told you so” cathartic moment! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 59 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: 😂 - dont think anyone ever questioned his talent.. questioned his application and overall contribution.. he was one of our poorer players on Sunday btw. Largely anonymous as usual. Spot on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo, Goodbye Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 1 hour ago, kingantti1874 said: 😂 - dont think anyone ever questioned his talent.. questioned his application and overall contribution.. he was one of our poorer players on Sunday btw. Largely anonymous as usual. Exactly. One cross and three decent runs doesn't add up to much over 94 minutes played. Again, he just wasn't involved nearly enough. His critics have almost always agreed that "there's a player in there" but it's his application and workrate that people tend to single out. His workrate was criticised again on BT Sports last sunday by Robbo btw. Do people also think he's using a scapegoat? He did seem better though and I noticed a few times he was doing the right things off the ball. He needs to do more however, and those defending him no matter what need to look at exactly what he's doing that's drawing the criticism and address those points specifically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAndy Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 I think the issue is that the fans are now accepting that he will inevitably be in the starting line up most weeks despite a complete lack of contribution 80% of the time (I am being generous). It's part of the overall problem. A manager with tired tactics and poor team selections. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, TexasAndy said: I think the issue is that the fans are now accepting that he will inevitably be in the starting line up most weeks despite a complete lack of contribution 80% of the time (I am being generous). It's part of the overall problem. A manager with tired tactics and poor team selections. Who generally has six or seven first team players unavailable. Sunday being the perfect example. Halkett, Souttar, Naismith, Walker, Washington, Haring and Damour. Add Mulraney to that now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Rudolf said: Who generally has six or seven first team players unavailable. Sunday being the perfect example. Halkett, Souttar, Naismith, Walker, Washington, Haring and Damour. Add Mulraney to that now... And that's before you add Morrison, Garuccio and Wighton. However, back on topic, he will be an asset if he shows much more desire and workrate. Sunday was a wee bit nearer what we're looking for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoleto Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 11 hours ago, kingantti1874 said: 😂 - dont think anyone ever questioned his talent.. questioned his application and overall contribution.. he was one of our poorer players on Sunday btw. Largely anonymous as usual. You clearly didn't watch the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex member of the SaS Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Rudolf said: Who generally has six or seven first team players unavailable. Sunday being the perfect example. Halkett, Souttar, Naismith, Walker, Washington, Haring and Damour. Add Mulraney to that now... A good manager gets the best from his players during adversity. Levein's tinkering with positions and tactics is to blame for most if not all the poor games in the last three years. Edited October 23, 2019 by Ex member of the SaS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthomas Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 10 minutes ago, Spoleto said: You clearly didn't watch the game. Or read the numerous posts which have constantly questioned his talent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Spoleto said: You clearly didn't watch the game. I clearly did, I clearly know more about what makes an effective footballer. You probably thought Mehdi Taouil was great because he could do a step over .. Edited October 23, 2019 by kingantti1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We_are_the_Hearts Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Watched him closely on Sunday and defo one of his biggest critics. Was his best game for a while. A few good crosses, tackles and direct runs. Worked more than normal. Only criticism is that a few times you could see he was maybe going to shirk the tracking, closing down then decided feck it! It was clear in the first half he was being told to tuck in so not his fault Barisic had acres. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hansel Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 20 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: I clearly did, I clearly know more about what makes an effective footballer. You probably thought Mehdi Taouil was great because he could do a step over .. Leave Mehdi out of this you monster. He was coming on to a game before he got injured at ER in the 3-1 stormtroopers match Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoleto Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 46 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: I clearly did, I clearly know more about what makes an effective footballer. You probably thought Mehdi Taouil was great because he could do a step over .. Yes of course you do. Your idea of an effective footballer is someone who runs around like a daftie for 90 minutes and walks off the pitch with a purple face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Ex member of the SaS said: A good manager gets the best from his players during adversity. Levein's tinkering with positions and tactics is to blame for most if not all the poor games in the last three years. It's just as well he did that with with M Smith and the 2 FBs on Sunday. Eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Spoleto said: Yes of course you do. Your idea of an effective footballer is someone who runs around like a daftie for 90 minutes and walks off the pitch with a purple face. For clare’s position - Someone who looks for the ball, makes nice effective runs, knows how to make space and play within it, knows when to pass and when to try and beat a man, and varies it up. has a bit of skill *, supports his forwards , isn’t a soft touch, generally just be an effective player. * 1 out of 9 ain’t bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 2 hours ago, JamboAl said: And that's before you add Morrison, Garuccio and Wighton. However, back on topic, he will be an asset if he shows much more desire and workrate. Sunday was a wee bit nearer what we're looking for. A fair assessment - unlike some of the shite posted by our resident troll..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoleto Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 50 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: For clare’s position - Someone who looks for the ball, makes nice effective runs, knows how to make space and play within it, knows when to pass and when to try and beat a man, and varies it up. has a bit of skill *, supports his forwards , isn’t a soft touch, generally just be an effective player. * 1 out of 9 ain’t bad. Everything that he did on Sunday then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 55 minutes ago, Spoleto said: Everything that he did on Sunday then. your away with the fairies mate. 😂 he was better on Sunday.. but he certainly wasn’t good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambosteve1902 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 16 hours ago, Cruickshank for Scotland said: Spot on! other than Michael Smith who had a better game than Clare? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambosteve1902 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 1 hour ago, kingantti1874 said: your away with the fairies mate. 😂 he was better on Sunday.. but he certainly wasn’t good Al ask you same question, other than Michael Smith, who was better on sunday? was fouled constantly, won alot of tackles and interceptions gave ball away once notably and it cannoned off steven davis face so was well worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Jambosteve1902 said: Al ask you same question, other than Michael Smith, who was better on sunday? was fouled constantly, won alot of tackles and interceptions gave ball away once notably and it cannoned off steven davis face so was well worth it. Uche, Whelan, Meshinoright of the bat.. not really fair to compare to defenders or maybe even Whelan.. he was better than Mulraney I’ll give you that. He started ok but didn’t sustain it Edited October 23, 2019 by kingantti1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 3 hours ago, Cruickshank for Scotland said: A fair assessment - unlike some of the shite posted by our resident troll..... There's something not right CfS - you and I agreeing. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoleto Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 46 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: Uche, Whelan, Meshinoright of the bat.. not really fair to compare to defenders or maybe even Whelan.. he was better than Mulraney I’ll give you that. He started ok but didn’t sustain it The truth is that they were all good. If you're thinking "he started ok but didn't sustain it" I think you're thinking of Meshino. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clerry Jambo Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 19 hours ago, Spoleto said: I can see it. And I think most Hearts fans that watched his performance on Sunday saw it too. Some of us have recognised it before now of course and refused to see him being made a scapegoat. Looking forward to him ripping pishy wee livvy big time on Saturday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettigrewsstylist Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 6 hours ago, kingantti1874 said: For clare’s position - Someone who looks for the ball, makes nice effective runs, knows how to make space and play within it, knows when to pass and when to try and beat a man, and varies it up. has a bit of skill *, supports his forwards , isn’t a soft touch, generally just be an effective player. * 1 out of 9 ain’t bad. Accurate and real 👍another 30 starts before we judge the wee lamb tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Spoleto said: The truth is that they were all good. If you're thinking "he started ok but didn't sustain it" I think you're thinking of Meshino. meshino has contributed more in his handful of starts than Clare has in 50+ appearances..meshino is an entirely different class of player. Edited October 23, 2019 by kingantti1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clerry Jambo Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 23 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: meshino has contributed more in his handful of starts than Clare has in 50+ appearances..meshino is an entirely different class of player. Absolutely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoleto Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 3 hours ago, kingantti1874 said: meshino has contributed more in his handful of starts than Clare has in 50+ appearances..meshino is an entirely different class of player. Which is why Man City signed him genius! It doesn't negate the fact that he contributed little as the second half wore on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoleto Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 5 hours ago, Clerry Jambo said: Looking forward to him ripping pishy wee livvy big time on Saturday I certainly hope so. The combination of Clare, Meshino and Uche is exciting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 8 hours ago, JamboAl said: There's something not right CfS - you and I agreeing. lol I call it as I see it Al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Buck Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 Disgrace of a man. Should never wear the jersey again. A spineless shitebag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayTeeJnr Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 I just don’t see anything from Clare. He’s half hearted in his challenges, offers nothing going forward and appears to have no will to win. It’s so frustrating watching him jog around the pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccarton3 Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 today, I did not see him touch the ball for the first half hour. For the second goal, he can see the 2 v 1 against Hickey but does nothing. For the third goal, he mistimes a jump for a header through poor judgment, is then ahead of the ball and out of commission to defend any attack. In the first half he slides in from miles off the ball and risks Beaton making the wrong decision. Just not in the right place. Return to England lower reaches. Still good living, but not here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEHEART1874 Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 He is just an average squad player but seems to get played every game? He offers little like mulraney , boz , maclean, morrison, whighton, maclean and now I add aidy whyte think he is pretty poor much rather have hickey/gurruchio when fit there. But not the worst out there today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skodef Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 34 minutes ago, Uncle Buck said: Disgrace of a man. Should never wear the jersey again. A spineless shitebag. Aye he is utter horseshite. No heart scared to shoot .Get rid he should be part of the inevitable clearout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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