davemclaren Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, i8hibsh said: She made a reference to it in one of her billion statements. Brilliant. Missed that. 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 9 minutes ago, i8hibsh said: She made a reference to it in one of her billion statements. You had to go and ruin my perfectly good lie with the truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Just now, Governor Tarkin said: You had to go and ruin my perfectly good lie with the truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, davemclaren said: That's a couple of times you've posted that smiley at me, Dave. I fear it's becoming a habit. It was only a small fib anyway. We actually had a brief discussion about that days match, before moving on to the plays of Arthur Miller (with a brief digression into his ill-fated marriage to Marilyn Monroe). i8's chamois leather didn't come into it at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Just now, Governor Tarkin said: That's a couple of times you've posted that smiley at me, Dave. I fear it's becoming a habit. It was only a small fib anyway. We actually had a brief discussion about that days match, before moving on to the plays of Arthur Miller (with a brief digression into his ill-fated marriage to Marilyn Monroe). i8's chamois leather didn't come into it at all. I like the plays of Arthur Miller so all good despite your false news faux pas!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 1 minute ago, davemclaren said: I like the plays of Arthur Miller so all good despite your false news faux pas!! It may have been fake news but it wasn't a faux pas, Dave. Everyone knows Kickback is no place for the truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 5 hours ago, GinRummy said: The more protests, boycotts, etc etc the more it will force the owners hand. As I said anything that show the strength of feeling is good imo. Yip, so it's not to show anyone how you feel or what you think is right. It's to ensure you get your own way. It stinks imo tbh. Not getting what we want so we'll do harm to the club to ensure we get it. Fantastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 9 minutes ago, Governor Tarkin said: It may have been fake news but it wasn't a faux pas, Dave. Everyone knows Kickback is no place for the truth. Truth is a relative concept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Hardy’s Dug Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 I’d understand a financial focussed boycott if we had an owner that was pilfering money out of the club. But a financial protest in the current circumstances seems hugely counterproductive and just as harmful to the team in the near future (depriving the club of money). Sorry - well meaning but a daft idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, davemclaren said: Truth is a relative concept. But it's not a concept in relativity. There are no truths, Dave, only interpretations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
151 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, TheStig said: People will continue to throw money at the club purely because they love it. You can still pump money in and make your feelings knowm about how things are at the moment, its not a one or the other type situation. It is for her. That is the issue. While there are still 8000+ fans ploughing money in to the club she could not give a shit about what happens on the turf. Or how we feel about it. Edited October 10, 2019 by Wham Bam Austin McCann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridge of Djoum Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Only if it’s a Buffalo Stance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Hearts Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 4 hours ago, Smith's right boot said: Yip, so it's not to show anyone how you feel or what you think is right. It's to ensure you get your own way. It stinks imo tbh. Not getting what we want so we'll do harm to the club to ensure we get it. Fantastic. Good, you've grasped the concept of protests and boycotts. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 6 hours ago, Smith's right boot said: Yip, so it's not to show anyone how you feel or what you think is right. It's to ensure you get your own way. It stinks imo tbh. Not getting what we want so we'll do harm to the club to ensure we get it. Fantastic. Levein leading the club to relegation is the harm that’s being done. Wake up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 4 hours ago, Forever Hearts said: Good, you've grasped the concept of protests and boycotts. 👍 I knew that. Just confirming with others it's not about making our feelings or position clear it's about mob rule to enforce change. Nothing can go wrong with that. Nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Hearts Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 53 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said: I knew that. Just confirming with others it's not about making our feelings or position clear it's about mob rule to enforce change. Nothing can go wrong with that. Nothing. Budge needs to get it through her head that supporters are absolutely scunnered and the time for mealy mouthed words has long past. If you can't handle that then too bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 7 minutes ago, Forever Hearts said: Budge needs to get it through her head that supporters are absolutely scunnered and the time for mealy mouthed words has long past. If you can't handle that then too bad. I think Budge knows supporters are sick to the back teeth. The trouble is she either too stubborn or too fearful of responding. That's an indictment of her either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoleto Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 38 minutes ago, Forever Hearts said: Budge needs to get it through her head that supporters are absolutely scunnered and the time for mealy mouthed words has long past. If you can't handle that then too bad. No, if you can't handle it then it's too bad. If you can't support the team / club then walk away. Genuine fans will not back you in hurting the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 27 minutes ago, Geoff Kilpatrick said: I think Budge knows supporters are sick to the back teeth. The trouble is she either too stubborn or too fearful of responding. That's an indictment of her either way. She, and CL, are going to see this out, imo. Big changes next season. With the changes being lauded, people will buy up STs. I’m convinced of that. Won’t stop many fans wondering what could have been if CL had stepped aside after the cup final. A wasted opportunity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Smith's right boot said: I knew that. Just confirming with others it's not about making our feelings or position clear it's about mob rule to enforce change. Nothing can go wrong with that. Nothing. It's not mob rule it's fan pressure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenbo Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Why don't we all chip in and take a front page advert out in one of the rags! Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 16 hours ago, Smith's right boot said: I think some folk should make a statement by Boycotting jkb. Please make some folk you.😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meadows Posted October 10, 2019 Author Share Posted October 10, 2019 “Some folk” need to learn to read , the idea of the OP was to open debate , see differing points of view and discuss sensibly . It wasn’t a ‘let’s do this’ or ‘must do this’ . Absolutely no need for holier than thou attitudes, petty comments or sly digs . point made successfully . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Burgundy Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 42 minutes ago, Spoleto said: No, if you can't handle it then it's too bad. If you can't support the team / club then walk away. Genuine fans will not back you in hurting the club. You really are vociferous in your support of Levein and Budge. How on earth you managed to stay silent and not post regarding anything else for the last 10 years I'll never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Hearts Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 53 minutes ago, Spoleto said: No, if you can't handle it then it's too bad. If you can't support the team / club then walk away. Genuine fans will not back you in hurting the club. I have. I won't be giving Hearts another penny until she sacks Levein. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 8 minutes ago, Ron Burgundy said: You really are vociferous in your support of Levein and Budge. How on earth you managed to stay silent and not post regarding anything else for the last 10 years I'll never know. I suppose I may be accused of the same by some. I wouldn't say I defend vociferously, however I do have a sense of calm and rational. The charges against Budge are basically she wants the stadium to be free from anti social behaviour and loyalty to her manager, which oddly is something that is being lauded as brave. I think we will see very soon whether Levein has really lost it all. I am calm all the same, she will not follow him over the cliff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allowayjambo1874 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 12 minutes ago, Ron Burgundy said: You really are vociferous in your support of Levein and Budge. How on earth you managed to stay silent and not post regarding anything else for the last 10 years I'll never know. Works for the club? I was was fortunate enough to win a hospitality via a competition on here a few years ago and I asked Anne Park to her face if they looked at this forum and she told me they did. Didn’t ask about posting right enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynnlondon Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Perhaps the happy clappers could have a counter protest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allowayjambo1874 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Just now, Sir Gio said: I suppose I may be accused of the same by some. I wouldn't say I defend vociferously, however I do have a sense of calm and rational. The charges against Budge are basically she wants the stadium to be free from anti social behaviour and loyalty to her manager, which oddly is something that is being lauded as brave. I think we will see very soon whether Levein has really lost it all. I am calm all the same, she will not follow him over the cliff I have yet to see a media pundit or anyone else describe her loyalty to CL as ‘brave’. Misguided or unwavering is the usual phrase used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, Forever Hearts said: I have. I won't be giving Hearts another penny until she sacks Levein. Your choice, but not one I would ever consider myself or thousands of others. But it's a choice, no right or wrong answer, it's how strongly you feel about the variables. Club still winning for me. I have faith that with better players back in place there will be a vast improvement. Mulraney, Clare and MacLean are squad players, suffering badly now with the responsibility of carrying the team offensively Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Sir Gio said: I suppose I may be accused of the same by some. I wouldn't say I defend vociferously, however I do have a sense of calm and rational. The charges against Budge are basically she wants the stadium to be free from anti social behaviour and loyalty to her manager, which oddly is something that is being lauded as brave. I think we will see very soon whether Levein has really lost it all. I am calm all the same, she will not follow him over the cliff I think you touch on a very good point. The modernisation of the club by getting rid of anti-social behaviour etc and most other aspects of AB's reign are for me, a completely seperate issue from wanting to put pressure on the club to get rid of CL. People trying to bandy everything together and try and criticise Ann on heaps of issues are 1) losing support from other 'Levein out' supporters and 2) muddying the message we are hopefully trying to send to the club. Edited October 10, 2019 by GinRummy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, Allowayjambo1874 said: I have yet to see a media pundit or anyone else describe her loyalty to CL as ‘brave’. Misguided or unwavering is the usual phrase used. You need to listen to other Sportsound pundits than the boy that doesn't enjoy Hearts win. Pretty unanimously agreed, it was early in the season and the ridiculously bad run of injuries would surely skew the picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allowayjambo1874 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Sir Gio said: You need to listen to other Sportsound pundits than the boy that doesn't enjoy Hearts win. Pretty unanimously agreed, it was early in the season and the ridiculously bad run of injuries would surely skew the picture. Fair enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoleto Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Allowayjambo1874 said: Fair enough Compare Michael Stewarts attitude towards Levein and Hearts with his attitude towards Heckingbottom and Hibs or even Lennon and Celtic after their recent shocking results. I don't think Stewart even made comment on Hearts injuries, he just wellied straight into Levein. Edited October 10, 2019 by Spoleto spelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoleto Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 22 minutes ago, Forever Hearts said: I have. I won't be giving Hearts another penny until she sacks Levein. We'll see you next season then because Levein will be given a reprieve until he has at lease three or four players back from injury. If he still fails after that then I believe he would walk willingly. Either way I'm sure he will be replaced at the end of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Hearts Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Spoleto said: We'll see you next season then because Levein will be given a reprieve until he has at lease three or four players back from injury. If he still fails after that then I believe he would walk willingly. Either way I'm sure he will be replaced at the end of the season. Fingers crossed he goes sooner rather than later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambocub Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Spoleto said: No, if you can't handle it then it's too bad. If you can't support the team / club then walk away. Genuine fans will not back you in hurting the club. Genuine fan what a load of crap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 24 minutes ago, glynnlondon said: Perhaps the happy clappers could have a counter protest I don’t think trying to polarise into two totally opposing camps, with no tolerance of each other, helps a lot or even reflects the many varied views on Ann and Craig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Burgundy Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 33 minutes ago, Sir Gio said: I suppose I may be accused of the same by some. I wouldn't say I defend vociferously, however I do have a sense of calm and rational. The charges against Budge are basically she wants the stadium to be free from anti social behaviour and loyalty to her manager, which oddly is something that is being lauded as brave. I think we will see very soon whether Levein has really lost it all. I am calm all the same, she will not follow him over the cliff No you are not the same. You didn't lie in wait for 10 years before posting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, Barack said: I'd wondered about that myself. He is very positive, despite Hearts' failings...(Admirable. But a long time to go, without not even commenting on our Cup win v Hibs, or forget your log-in, for example) )...which even after my defence of CL last year, & at the start of this, has vanished. 'Spoleto' is either named after an anagram of something else, or just a town in Italy. Lets poo?? 😳 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Kenbo said: Why don't we all chip in and take a front page advert out in one of the rags! Lol Better hiring a plane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allowayjambo1874 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 25 minutes ago, Spoleto said: Compare Michael Stewarts attitude towards Levein and Hearts with his attitude towards Heckingbottom and Hibs or even Lennon and Celtic after their recent shocking results. I don't think Stewart even made comment on Hearts injuries, he just wellied straight into Levein. I actually don’t give a flying **** about hibs and how they are doing I only care about Hearts and imo (and it’s just my opinion) Stewart though at times can be skewed has hit the nail on the head often about us and CL. Posters writing about Stewart’s agenda or saying ‘aye we’re bad but what about hibs’ are a waste of time as all that they are doing is deflecting from the main issue. we are garbage on the pitch with no clear plan, direction, focus or fight. we have a manager who has lost the dressing room, an owner who is at odds with the fans and a support that is disenfranchised. Everything else talked about atm is pish, pure and simple and until the above issues are addressed this club is heading in one direction. The 2-3 people left with the same mindset as yourself are at it. Either trolling, hibs fans or have difficulty in cognitive reasoning (trying to be PC here). and that my friend is the views of about 95% of the genuine fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Back Paulo Sergio Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 (edited) My way of protest is to use my credit card when buying tickets. Take that Ann ya wee d***. Edited October 10, 2019 by Bring Back Paulo Sergio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Burgundy Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 17 minutes ago, Barack said: I'd wondered about that myself. He is very positive, despite Hearts' failings...(Admirable. But a long time to go, without not even commenting on our Cup win v Hibs, or forget your log-in, for example)...which even after my defence of CL last year, & at the start of this, has vanished. 'Spoleto' is either named after an anagram of something else, or just a town in Italy. I take it you did the same as me and googled it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We_are_the_Hearts Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 18 minutes ago, Barack said: 'Spoleto' is either named after an anagram of something else, or just a town in Italy. Its an L away from Lose plot! Which he has if he isn't a Hibs fud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Back Paulo Sergio Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, Allowayjambo1874 said: I actually don’t give a flying **** about hibs and how they are doing I only care about Hearts and imo (and it’s just my opinion) Stewart though at times can be skewed has hit the nail on the head often about us and CL. Posters writing about Stewart’s agenda or saying ‘aye we’re bad but what about hibs’ are a waste of time as all that they are doing is deflecting from the main issue. we are garbage on the pitch with no clear plan, direction, focus or fight. we have a manager who has lost the dressing room, an owner who is at odds with the fans and a support that is disenfranchised. Everything else talked about atm is pish, pure and simple and until the above issues are addressed this club is heading in one direction. The 2-3 people left with the same mindset as yourself are at it. Either trolling, hibs fans or have difficulty in cognitive reasoning (trying to be PC here). and that my friend is the views of about 95% of the genuine fans. Nailed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allowayjambo1874 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 1 minute ago, We_are_the_Hearts said: Its an L away from Lose plot! Which he has if he isn't a Hibs fud. Pose tool? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoleto Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Paranoia and anger run deep amongst the "real" fans it seems. Fortunately, as we know, they are just the noisy minority. Most of us are genuine fans who support the club through thick and thin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoleto Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 47 minutes ago, Allowayjambo1874 said: I actually don’t give a flying **** about hibs and how they are doing I only care about Hearts and imo (and it’s just my opinion) Stewart though at times can be skewed has hit the nail on the head often about us and CL. Posters writing about Stewart’s agenda or saying ‘aye we’re bad but what about hibs’ are a waste of time as all that they are doing is deflecting from the main issue. we are garbage on the pitch with no clear plan, direction, focus or fight. we have a manager who has lost the dressing room, an owner who is at odds with the fans and a support that is disenfranchised. Everything else talked about atm is pish, pure and simple and until the above issues are addressed this club is heading in one direction. The 2-3 people left with the same mindset as yourself are at it. Either trolling, hibs fans or have difficulty in cognitive reasoning (trying to be PC here). and that my friend is the views of about 95% of the genuine fans. You miss my point entirely, but then I think you do that on purpose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1874robbo Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Allowayjambo1874 said: I actually don’t give a flying **** about hibs and how they are doing I only care about Hearts and imo (and it’s just my opinion) Stewart though at times can be skewed has hit the nail on the head often about us and CL. Posters writing about Stewart’s agenda or saying ‘aye we’re bad but what about hibs’ are a waste of time as all that they are doing is deflecting from the main issue. we are garbage on the pitch with no clear plan, direction, focus or fight. we have a manager who has lost the dressing room, an owner who is at odds with the fans and a support that is disenfranchised. Everything else talked about atm is pish, pure and simple and until the above issues are addressed this club is heading in one direction. The 2-3 people left with the same mindset as yourself are at it. Either trolling, hibs fans or have difficulty in cognitive reasoning (trying to be PC here). and that my friend is the views of about 95% of the genuine fans. Fantastic post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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