SectionN Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Where was the big man today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambos_1874 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Saw him sitting in the stand. Must be injured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorgieRules22 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 9 months out par for the course surely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamhammer Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 He’s in the hamstring gang. Precautionary, allegedly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull's-eye Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jambos_1874 said: Saw him sitting in the stand. Must be injured. What stand ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 More bad luck apparently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HillmanHearts Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 To be fair that was a body blow to us and huge bonus to Killie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo-Jambo Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, Jamhammer said: He’s in the hamstring gang. Precautionary, allegedly. See him in 3 months then 😏 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, Jamhammer said: He’s in the hamstring gang. Precautionary, allegedly. Yep, back for the Rangers game...in February Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambos_1874 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 6 minutes ago, Noah Claypole said: What stand ? Main Stand. Just above dugouts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazman Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Was just a tight hamstring and was taken out as a precaution. Weeks rest and he'll be fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam_the_legend Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 1 minute ago, bazman said: Was just a tight hamstring and was taken out as a precaution. Weeks rest and he'll be fine Yeh right, heard that before. See you in the new year uche Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Panzee Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 12 minutes ago, HillmanHearts said: To be fair that was a body blow to us and huge bonus to Killie. Agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 On 04/10/2019 at 10:29, busby1985 said: I loved the Roy Keane interview with Gary Nev where he tore John Walters and Ward a new one for not being able to train due to “having a program”. Sounds exactly like Naismith. Cause he’s a senior pro and played at the top level he’s allowed to train away from the squad, do his own rehab and have his own “program”. Let’s hope that the “program” sees him come back fully fit this time. Also worth listening to that Keane interview just to hear the changes he made to his life, diet and training to try stay at the very top after his biggest injury. He felt he had started to get little niggly injuries and then he got a major injury and he felt he needed a change in lifestyle. Steven Gerrard also drills into his Rangers squad that injuries, outside contact injuries, are all down to how the players look after and condition their bodies. Diet, training, recovery etc etc if not approached properly by the player then these injuries creep into their life, in his opinion. He has “fat camp” at Rangers too, where the players are constantly tested around their body fats and if they aren’t at acceptable levels they train alone in “fat camp”. Morelos last season was a frequent “fat camp” attendee. My connection to Rangers, who’s played in the EPL, says he’s never been leaner or fitter. Looks after himself more than he ever done down south. Loads of top sportsmen are also now going vegan in a bid to stay fit and sharp. Quoting this from another thread because its relevant to the point i'm making. Craig Beattie's interview with Si Ferry, he mentions being dropped to the bench by Strachan and essentially spitting the dumnmy - not warming up right, outcome? Torn hamstring. My point is that this isn't the first hamstring issue we've had and as Busby highlights above players looking after themselves in this regard is hugely important and should be something taken extremely seriously. Neilson left and any talk of double sessions disappeared. We know Cathro didn't place any emphasis on physical fitness in his preseason which was entirely focused on ball technique. Regardless of this review of our football department Levein had, we could do things better. I think there are factors (3 games in a week in Uches case) but the volume of non-collision injurys over the last 18 months has been horrendous. I also seriously think we need to review the medical/ physio department. We seem to have a lot of 'freak' injuries which get completely missed and cause massive issues. Our run of 'luck' these past 18 months IMO isn't luck and down to poor management. As others have said, when did we last have a crisis to this extent? We're clearly doing something wrong, otherwise at some point in the last 30 years there would be similar instances of this happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 19 minutes ago, bazman said: Was just a tight hamstring and was taken out as a precaution. Weeks rest and he'll be fine Just like Damour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB GIN Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 23 minutes ago, bazman said: Was just a tight hamstring and was taken out as a precaution. Weeks rest and he'll be fine What are we doing to the players .....can’t believe this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busby1985 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 6 minutes ago, OTT said: Quoting this from another thread because its relevant to the point i'm making. Craig Beattie's interview with Si Ferry, he mentions being dropped to the bench by Strachan and essentially spitting the dumnmy - not warming up right, outcome? Torn hamstring. My point is that this isn't the first hamstring issue we've had and as Busby highlights above players looking after themselves in this regard is hugely important and should be something taken extremely seriously. Neilson left and any talk of double sessions disappeared. We know Cathro didn't place any emphasis on physical fitness in his preseason which was entirely focused on ball technique. Regardless of this review of our football department Levein had, we could do things better. I think there are factors (3 games in a week in Uches case) but the volume of non-collision injurys over the last 18 months has been horrendous. I also seriously think we need to review the medical/ physio department. We seem to have a lot of 'freak' injuries which get completely missed and cause massive issues. Our run of 'luck' these past 18 months IMO isn't luck and down to poor management. As others have said, when did we last have a crisis to this extent? We're clearly doing something wrong, otherwise at some point in the last 30 years there would be similar instances of this happening. The players are unfit or they aren’t in peak physical condition. Bad diet, bad warm ups, bad execution, combined with a bad attitude towards fitness will result in what we are seeing. Impact injuries are “unlucky”, torn muscles etc are all down to being unfit. The friend I mentioned had a problem with his calf muscle, had issues with it for the full of his last year in England. He bought mad liquid nitrogen MC Hammer style pant things that helped with warm downs and stopped cramps etc etc. Cost about 7k. He went to see specialists who designed him boots cause they said the problems with his calf came from the balls of his feet, spent a fortune seeing these guys. He tried it all and every week, after every match, he could barely walk freely. Comes up to Scotland, first session with Gerrard he’s told he’s over weight, his body fat was no where near were it should be for his age and height etc. He changed his diet, which was all ready pretty healthy and started to focus purely on his diet and how to look after his body properly. Coincidence maybe, but he no longer has problems with his calf. He says Gerrard destroys players if they pick up muscle tears or strains, says it’s the players faults, not looking after themselves properly etc etc. I have no sports science degree. Everything I’ve said is just my take on things. It is probably miles off the mark of what is actually true but I do find it interesting that Keane and Gerrard, champions league winners, have the same outlook on muscular injuries. Has to be something in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Panzee Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 1 minute ago, busby1985 said: The players are unfit or they aren’t in peak physical condition. Bad diet, bad warm ups, bad execution, combined with a bad attitude towards fitness will result in what we are seeing. Impact injuries are “unlucky”, torn muscles etc are all down to being unfit. The friend I mentioned had a problem with his calf muscle, had issues with it for the full of his last year in England. He bought mad liquid nitrogen MC Hammer style pant things that helped with warm downs and stopped cramps etc etc. Cost about 7k. He went to see specialists who designed him boots cause they said the problems with his calf came from the balls of his feet, spent a fortune seeing these guys. He tried it all and every week, after every match, he could barely walk freely. Comes up to Scotland, first session with Gerrard he’s told he’s over weight, his body fat was no where near were it should be for his age and height etc. He changed his diet, which was all ready pretty healthy and started to focus purely on his diet and how to look after his body properly. Coincidence maybe, but he no longer has problems with his calf. He says Gerrard destroys players if they pick up muscle tears or strains, says it’s the players faults, not looking after themselves properly etc etc. I have no sports science degree. Everything I’ve said is just my take on things. It is probably miles off the mark of what is actually true but I do find it interesting that Keane and Gerrard, champions league winners, have the same outlook on muscular injuries. Has to be something in it. So how did Denmark win the Euros after being on their jollies in the sun for 2 weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 52 minutes ago, SectionN said: Where was the big man today? Injured at training on Thursday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busby1985 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Jim Panzee said: So how did Denmark win the Euros after being on their jollies in the sun for 2 weeks. Good question. How did Alex Higgins win the 1983 world championship whilst being steaming? Not sure what your point is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsalldothebeattie Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Heard from a couple guys today that he pulled up with a hamstring injury yesterday in training so no doubt that’ll be him until about April Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hectormasson Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jim Panzee said: So how did Denmark win the Euros after being on their jollies in the sun for 2 weeks. Prob the same things a shit Greece team did , when they won it? Got a lot of luck and breaks ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartandsoul Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 55 minutes ago, SectionN said: Where was the big man today? Out for 2 years probably. That is the normal timescale for a Hearts injury after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 44 minutes ago, bazman said: Was just a tight hamstring and was taken out as a precaution. Weeks rest and he'll be fine Another hamstring ? Never Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peebo Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Have had heard various things about Uche, some directly from the first team coaching staff, that make me think he’s another one who will feature in the regularly-out-injured list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 1 minute ago, letsalldothebeattie said: Heard from a couple guys today that he pulled up with a hamstring injury yesterday in training so no doubt that’ll be him until about April 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsalldothebeattie Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Just now, 1971fozzy said: 2022 Aye just before his current deal runs out 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Panzee Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 42 minutes ago, busby1985 said: Good question. How did Alex Higgins win the 1983 world championship whilst being steaming? Not sure what your point is. Irrelevant. Two different sports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busby1985 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 8 minutes ago, Jim Panzee said: Irrelevant. Two different sports. Denmark won the euros in 1992, your original point is irrelevant, hence my retort being as equally irrelevant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Panzee Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Errrr. All i'm saying is that you can spend weeks and spondoolees on player fitness, diet and physio.....or let players have two weeks on a sun bed prior to a bunch of games and get the same result....ish. pretty much all top level sport is about the top two inches above the eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 2 hours ago, Peebo said: Have had heard various things about Uche, some directly from the first team coaching staff, that make me think he’s another one who will feature in the regularly-out-injured list. Is that to do with his body or the way he treats it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peebo Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, Dusty said: Is that to do with his body or the way he treats it? Not sure. Described as a “pansy”. Apparently some odd sequence of events this week in terms of the surfacing of his current injury issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 3 hours ago, OTT said: Quoting this from another thread because its relevant to the point i'm making. Craig Beattie's interview with Si Ferry, he mentions being dropped to the bench by Strachan and essentially spitting the dumnmy - not warming up right, outcome? Torn hamstring. My point is that this isn't the first hamstring issue we've had and as Busby highlights above players looking after themselves in this regard is hugely important and should be something taken extremely seriously. Neilson left and any talk of double sessions disappeared. We know Cathro didn't place any emphasis on physical fitness in his preseason which was entirely focused on ball technique. Regardless of this review of our football department Levein had, we could do things better. I think there are factors (3 games in a week in Uches case) but the volume of non-collision injurys over the last 18 months has been horrendous. I also seriously think we need to review the medical/ physio department. We seem to have a lot of 'freak' injuries which get completely missed and cause massive issues. Our run of 'luck' these past 18 months IMO isn't luck and down to poor management. As others have said, when did we last have a crisis to this extent? We're clearly doing something wrong, otherwise at some point in the last 30 years there would be similar instances of this happening. A lot of our problems are down to poor diet, fatigue, training and recovery. Berra said in an interview during the week that Smith usually gets cramp during a game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3fingersreid Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Could he be in the gym too much ? Genuinely querying it , I also wonder if some of his injury worries are more in the mind than anything else . Bloody hell built like him there should be defenders strewn all over the place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 2 hours ago, Peebo said: Have had heard various things about Uche, some directly from the first team coaching staff, that make me think he’s another one who will feature in the regularly-out-injured list. A quick check would show you that he’s had a major injury every season of his career. I would say he needs more time on ball work than gym work. He said in the programme last season that he was unplayable on his day, fair enough. He also said he was nearly the finished article, i nearly pissed myself laughing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Just now, 3fingersreid said: Could he be in the gym too much ? Genuinely querying it , I also wonder if some of his injury worries are more in the mind than anything else . Bloody hell built like him there should be defenders strewn all over the place I would say so, he would be better working on his control/Shooting/heading and passing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3fingersreid Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Pasquale for King said: I would say so, he would be better working on his control/Shooting/heading and passing. 😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 1 minute ago, 3fingersreid said: 😂😂 And penalties 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 7 hours ago, Peebo said: Have had heard various things about Uche, some directly from the first team coaching staff, that make me think he’s another one who will feature in the regularly-out-injured list. Shock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 4 hours ago, Pasquale for King said: I would say so, he would be better working on his control/Shooting/heading and passing. And staying on his feet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherbet Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 9 hours ago, Jamhammer said: He’s in the hamstring gang. Precautionary, allegedly. Same as damour who started Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 This ‘bad luck’ just doesn’t seem to go away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Sherbet said: Same as damour who started Yep. Get a hamstring injury and play the next week. That’s the Hearts way. Smith at Parkhead , Naismith, Washington. Now Damour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_A wehatethehibs Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 Coaching and back room clearout of 100% of the staff is the answer to all of our problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underwaterwoodwelder Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 He probably told CL that he is apish manager lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettigrewsstylist Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 Players must not have had hamstrings 20-30 yrs ago. Never heard so much chat about them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armageddon Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 11 hours ago, SectionN said: Where was the big man today? I’m told he tried to shag Vertongen’s wife Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SM Sheffield Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 To be fair we need Ikpeazu, we are running out of options, if there was even the remotest chance of him picking up a longer term problem then the coaching staff have called this one right. They’ve not got much right recently but that is the right call if he needs time to recover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Brown Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 47 minutes ago, Armageddon said: I’m told he tried to shag Vertongen’s wife Must have been some ride. Pulling a hammy, phew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 3 hours ago, pettigrewsstylist said: Players must not have had hamstrings 20-30 yrs ago. Never heard so much chat about them. You're right. They just seem to have come into fashion around the same time as Vlad flu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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