Jeff Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Every time he got the ball you could hear the same guy shouting shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 19 hours ago, Mauricio Pinilla said: Heard some boy in our end call him lazy. Guessing that's because it's just the default word to use when you're not happy with a black player. Yeah i always feel thats been a racist euphemism being used about the black players we have had...Zeefuk was called that and also Nade.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Internet Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 4 hours ago, AlphonseCapone said: Big accusation. A lot of people on here recently making snide comments that are essentially accusing folk of racism on the back of criticism for certain players, Sean Clare being the most common example. Obviously some Hearts fans will be racist but I'd say the majority of folk just genuinely think Sean Clare is shite Wasn't intended as an accusation, just spotting a pattern. Definitely don't think it's racism in a 'I hate black people' kind of way obviously, not sure what it is really, stereotyping? Racial profiling? Don't know. Uche has his faults, laziness definitely isn't one of them and even an actual racist would agree with that imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyes open Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Dallas Green said: If you don't get why that type of post isn't helpful then you really are quite simple. I must be simple or you must be an Uber clever Snowflake please explain then why a post responding to a fellow Hearts fan accusing Hibs fans of being racist, whilst we are every bit as guilty in the past and in the present is unhelpful . How is that unhelpful when we are as bad , Ask Jake Mulraneys family If we are innocent of racism . My point was made in regards to the OP stirring up ill feeling between both sets of supporters whilst conveniently forgetting the points above. Jeezo here's me having to explain it to you and I'm simple .. 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 29 minutes ago, Mauricio Pinilla said: Wasn't intended as an accusation, just spotting a pattern. Definitely don't think it's racism in a 'I hate black people' kind of way obviously, not sure what it is really, stereotyping? Racial profiling? Don't know. Uche has his faults, laziness definitely isn't one of them and even an actual racist would agree with that imo. Racism is when one ascribes certain characteristics to a group of people...There is a running theme re our black players about being " lazy". Its a stereotype. Historically, particularly in the USA blacks were labelled as not only lazy but intellectually inferior to white people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallas Green Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 24 minutes ago, eyes open said: I must be simple or you must be an Uber clever Snowflake please explain then why a post responding to a fellow Hearts fan accusing Hibs fans of being racist, whilst we are every bit as guilty in the past and in the present is unhelpful . How is that unhelpful when we are as bad , Ask Jake Mulraneys family If we are innocent of racism . My point was made in regards to the OP stirring up ill feeling between both sets of supporters whilst conveniently forgetting the points above. Jeezo here's me having to explain it to you and I'm simple .. 😀 It is called whataboutery. Only this time in reverse. "That hibs fan is a racist ****" "Aye, but mind that time we were racists, best no bring it up, glass houses etc" When you boil it down to that you don't combat racism you let it bubble and it becomes an even bigger problem. That's why it isn't helpful. Drawing attention to any racist problem we have had previous to what happened on Sunday isn't relevant to this incident because Hearts fans rightly call out these twats in our own support. Anyone who is racist is scum, Hearts or Hibs, but just because we have had racists in out support doesnt mean we can't call out other teams racists supporters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haringshairband Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 There is no place in any walk of life for racism, whether you're a Hearts or a Hibs fan. *Also "silly teeth" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 (edited) We all know there are fans of almost all clubs that have a racist element You identify the culprit and take action. There is no need for a 'I'm better than you' or 'not as bad as you' kind of discussion Edited September 23, 2019 by CJGJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hectormasson Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 10 hours ago, eyes open said: People In Glass houses and all that.... I,m old enough to remember Hearts fans throwing bananas at Mark Walters when the old Rangers played us at Tynecastle all those years ago . Being a young whipper snapper I laughed at the time ,Something I am ashamed of even now . For the record Walters was a good player to watch ,especially his wee lollipop move ! .. And over the years we have not improved it wasn't that long ago Mulraney's family complained of hearing racial abuse directed at him from a Hearts Supporter.. So as I say people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones... maybe the Op needs to get off that big horse ! The perfect tic fans.. through bananas at septic park the week before hearts mugs did it,at tyney , but very little said about the greatest support in the world ????? Funnily enough ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sraman Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 3 hours ago, Dallas Green said: It is called whataboutery. Only this time in reverse. "That hibs fan is a racist ****" "Aye, but mind that time we were racists, best no bring it up, glass houses etc" When you boil it down to that you don't combat racism you let it bubble and it becomes an even bigger problem. That's why it isn't helpful. Drawing attention to any racist problem we have had previous to what happened on Sunday isn't relevant to this incident because Hearts fans rightly call out these twats in our own support. Anyone who is racist is scum, Hearts or Hibs, but just because we have had racists in out support doesnt mean we can't call out other teams racists supporters. Reverse whataboutery?? Freud would be proud. Simpletons are getting the messages loud and clear. How are you on Mental Health Issues? I could (seriously) do with a bit help. "Look at the Hibbies, scum." No. "Look at the scum." Yes. Simples. Zero whataboutery whatsoever whatsyerpuss???? Stick in there. Thanks for trying though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 4 hours ago, eyes open said: I must be simple or you must be an Uber clever Snowflake please explain then why a post responding to a fellow Hearts fan accusing Hibs fans of being racist, whilst we are every bit as guilty in the past and in the present is unhelpful . How is that unhelpful when we are as bad , Ask Jake Mulraneys family If we are innocent of racism . My point was made in regards to the OP stirring up ill feeling between both sets of supporters whilst conveniently forgetting the points above. Jeezo here's me having to explain it to you and I'm simple .. 😀 Just seen your latest post and then checked your other ones. Can I just say. FTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallas Green Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 58 minutes ago, Sraman said: Reverse whataboutery?? Freud would be proud. Simpletons are getting the messages loud and clear. How are you on Mental Health Issues? I could (seriously) do with a bit help. "Look at the Hibbies, scum." No. "Look at the scum." Yes. Simples. Zero whataboutery whatsoever whatsyerpuss???? Stick in there. Thanks for trying though. Aye. Whataboutery would be; Someone saying "oh that Hearts fan is racist" and one of us going "aye but what about Hibs, they are racist also, don't forget that" This example of not being able to call out a Hibs fan being racist because we have had issues is the same, just backwards from our own fans point of view. I've already stated, no matter the allegiance, racists are scum. If you need help with Mental Health I'd advise contacting a professional 👍🏻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Morgan Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Watched it again, someone calls Uche a monkey like a second before the more audible voice from the other guy. Disgraceful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 6 hours ago, JamesM48 said: Racism is when one ascribes certain characteristics to a group of people...There is a running theme re our black players about being " lazy". Its a stereotype. Historically, particularly in the USA blacks were labelled as not only lazy but intellectually inferior to white people. What about labelling gingers as shite at getting suntans? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tynecastlesmychurch Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 I'd be interested to know if the person or persons who shouted the abuse would be brave enough to say it to Uches face? Just a thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Lynam Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 14 hours ago, JamesM48 said: Racism is when one ascribes certain characteristics to a group of people...There is a running theme re our black players about being " lazy". Its a stereotype. Historically, particularly in the USA blacks were labelled as not only lazy but intellectually inferior to white people. Rumours various African nations are looking into the eligibility of lazy Jamie Walker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
...a bit disco Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 From BBC Gossip. The Scottish government has demanded the Scottish FA and SPFL do more to rid football of racism, as Hibernian launch a probe into claims Hearts striker Uche Ikpeazu was targeted for abuse in Sunday's Edinburgh derby. (Daily Record) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 37 minutes ago, ...a bit disco said: From BBC Gossip. The Scottish government has demanded the Scottish FA and SPFL do more to rid football of racism, as Hibernian launch a probe into claims Hearts striker Uche Ikpeazu was targeted for abuse in Sunday's Edinburgh derby. (Daily Record) Humza just giving it hollow platitudes and lip-service from what I read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cal_ Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 21 hours ago, MattyK82 said: Absolutely disgusting behaviour. The racist twat was strangely quiet when both goals went in. Seeing the Dunbar stand erupt like that, from this angle (from the vermin end) is absolutely glorious 🇱🇻 The split second of silence before you hear the roar is class! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 13 hours ago, Governor Tarkin said: What about labelling gingers as shite at getting suntans? 😂😂😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolkeith Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 20 hours ago, JamesM48 said: Yeah i always feel thats been a racist euphemism being used about the black players we have had...Zeefuk was called that and also Nade.... Literally a lazy stereotype. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clark Griswold Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 I thought Clare was lazy on Sunday with not tracking back, making no effort to win the ball back at times. I would have thought the same if it was Berra doing the same thing. Dont see how that's racist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyK82 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 27 minutes ago, Cal_ said: The split second of silence before you hear the roar is class! Absolutely! Must have watched the goals about 100 times. The air of anticipation by the near 4000 Jambos before the ball nestles in the onion bag, followed by a cacophony of noise - wonderful scenes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc2607 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 On 22/09/2019 at 21:57, Deek said: And our fans our perfect? It it was wrong but let’s not sweep under the carpet that we are not holier than thought. What a horrendous reaction. I'd like to think if this was one of our fans we would be reacting in the exact same way and trying to have some action taken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 They’re developing a right old habit for this. Scum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 6 hours ago, Des Lynam said: Rumours various African nations are looking into the eligibility of lazy Jamie Walker. 1 hour ago, ...a bit disco said: From BBC Gossip. The Scottish government has demanded the Scottish FA and SPFL do more to rid football of racism, as Hibernian launch a probe into claims Hearts striker Uche Ikpeazu was targeted for abuse in Sunday's Edinburgh derby. (Daily Record) Good. They should launch a probe right up the wee arse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 21 hours ago, JamesM48 said: Yeah i always feel thats been a racist euphemism being used about the black players we have had...Zeefuk was called that and also Nade.... Nade was lazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, mc2607 said: What a horrendous reaction. I'd like to think if this was one of our fans we would be reacting in the exact same way and trying to have some action taken. Seen it happen lots of times over the years, in various parts of the ground and in numerous away grounds. Nothing happened. Maybe we all grumbled on the internet about it but in reality nobody does jack shit (generally of course). Edited September 24, 2019 by GinRummy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prof Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Fair dos to some Hibbies. The majority of posters on Hibs.nutter.com were slamming the racist moron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Hearts Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 2 hours ago, Prof said: Fair dos to some Hibbies. The majority of posters on Hibs.nutter.com were slamming the racist moron. And yet not a single Hibs fan thought to challenge him at the time? It's all very well giving him both barrels from the safety of a keyboard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prof Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 28 minutes ago, Forever Hearts said: And yet not a single Hibs fan thought to challenge him at the time? It's all very well giving him both barrels from the safety of a keyboard. Fair point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Morgan Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 If I heard someone near me shouting racist abuse at a player I would definitely pull them up about it, disgusting behaviour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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