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Vlad Magic

Any shouts for Mark Knopfler?

 

As well as all his Dire Straits stuff and huge number of solo recordings he wrote some iconic film scores.

 

Local Hero

Cal

The Princess Bride

 

Genius guitar skills and not a bad song writer. 

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Auld Reekin'
1 hour ago, martoon said:

 

I love the way Ray laces his songs with humour. 

 

So many classic songs to chose from, Smithee, but, for me, "Shangri-la" is his masterpiece.

 

Neil Hannon (Divine Comedy) is another excellent songwriter who writes a good, humorous lyric.

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Boris
1 hour ago, martoon said:

 

I love the way Ray laces his songs with humour. 

 

So many classic songs to chose from, Smithee, but, for me, "Shangri-la" is his masterpiece.

 

Oooft!

 

Was just listening to that about ten minutes ago!!!

 

Agree with you btw.

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Boris
2 minutes ago, Auld Reekin' said:

 

Neil Hannon (Divine Comedy) is another excellent songwriter who writes a good, humorous lyric.

 

Also agree!

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martoon
19 minutes ago, Auld Reekin' said:

 

Neil Hannon (Divine Comedy) is another excellent songwriter who writes a good, humorous lyric.

 

Cheers, bud. Not familiar with him but will have a listen. Any particular track you'd recommend as an intro? 

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martoon
20 minutes ago, Boris said:

 

Oooft!

 

Was just listening to that about ten minutes ago!!!

 

Agree with you btw.

 

Epic song. 

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Boris
3 minutes ago, martoon said:

 

Epic song. 

 

Good word!

 

:spoton:

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Robbo-Jambo
On ‎25‎/‎09‎/‎2019 at 11:47, I P Knightley said:

If you want 'astonishing', you've got another vote here for Kate Bush. Mainly because of her youth when she turned out Wuthering Heights - an astounding tune that really stood the test of time. Paul Weller for similar reasons, writing tunes in his late teen that were great for the time and are still great for young and old listeners. (I'd also commend Cat Stevens for all that he wrote at a young age.)

 

I saw a mention of Paul Heaton who I'd also list. I love someone who can write melodious, jaunty tunes and harmonies which have biting lyrics behind them. He's still got it. In a similar mould is Justin Currie: lots of very clever songs, both lyrically and musically - a real favourite. 

 

Of the 'biggies', I'd go for John Lennon, Paul McCartney & Pete Townshend for pushing boundaries rather than just great songs and Springsteen must get a mention for longevity and continued relevance. 

 

Just to remind you what a great songwriter Kate Bush was:

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The iconic and brillaint album All Mod Cons was written by Mr Weller at the grand old age of 19 years.

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Smithee
2 hours ago, martoon said:

 

I love the way Ray laces his songs with humour. 

 

So many classic songs to chose from, Smithee, but, for me, "Shangri-la" is his masterpiece.

 

You might well be right, Arthur is peak kinks, really top stuff 

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FruitJuice
1 hour ago, Robbo-Jambo said:

The iconic and brillaint album All Mod Cons was written by Mr Weller at the grand old age of 19 years.

My fav age related fact when it comes to bands is that, when the small faces split up the oldest was 21.  Ogden's nut flake from guys as young as that.  Then there's their early stuff that has some great stuff from teenagers.

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Auld Reekin'
2 hours ago, martoon said:

 

Cheers, bud. Not familiar with him but will have a listen. Any particular track you'd recommend as an intro? 

 

Other than his work on Father Ted (theme tune and all other songs featured in the series, I think), the first song I really heard and took note of by him was one called "National Express", so you could always start with that as well. (No doubt he also writes some more serious stuff too, though...)

 

I haven't listened to a huge amount by him / Divine Comedy but have heard a few more tracks on the radio which I really enjoyed; sorry, can't remember the names!

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ri Alban
1 hour ago, Robbo-Jambo said:

The iconic and brillaint album All Mod Cons was written by Mr Weller at the grand old age of 19 years.

Masterpiece!

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benny

Has Mark E Smith been mentioned yet.

Matt Johnson of The The.

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martoon
13 minutes ago, Auld Reekin' said:

 

Other than his work on Father Ted (theme tune and all other songs featured in the series, I think), the first song I really heard and took note of by him was one called "National Express", so you could always start with that as well. (No doubt he also writes some more serious stuff too, though...)

 

I haven't listened to a huge amount by him / Divine Comedy but have heard a few more tracks on the radio which I really enjoyed; sorry, can't remember the names!

 

Cheers, AR. 

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Riccarton3

Oh, to live on sugar mountain, with the barkers and the colored balloons, you can't be twenty on sugar mountain, though you're thinking that you're leaving there too soon.

 

Quite evocative.

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ri Alban

Lloyd Webber and Rice.

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Robbo-Jambo
2 hours ago, FruitJuice said:

My fav age related fact when it comes to bands is that, when the small faces split up the oldest was 21.  Ogden's nut flake from guys as young as that.  Then there's their early stuff that has some great stuff from teenagers.

Yip, early stuff was fantastic from the Small Faces. 

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FruitJuice
14 minutes ago, Robbo-Jambo said:

Yip, early stuff was fantastic from the Small Faces. 

To be at the age range of between 17 and 19 when producing the stuff they did was immense.  Only together for two years and what a back catalogue.  My fav 60's band.  

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Costanza

Tennant/Lowe

Bernard Sumner

Johnny Marr

 

All geniuses. How do they get away with it...

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Smithee
2 hours ago, benny said:

Has Mark E Smith been mentioned yet.

Matt Johnson of The The.

 

I came across Mark E Smith a couple of years ago. It'll probably be no surprise to hear it was in a pub in Salford and that he was a surly prick.

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King Of The Cat Cafe

 

Townes Van Zandt

Guy Clark

Jerry Jeff Walker

 

Eric Andersen

Phil Ochs

Tom Paxton

 

Pete Seeger

Woody Guthrie

 

Graham Parker

Nick Lowe

Albert Hammond and Mike Hazelwood

 

Anybody mentioned Joan Baez yet?

 

Kris Kristofferson 

Glenn Frey

Bob Seger

Billy Joel

Gordon Lightfoot.

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Auld Reekin'
1 hour ago, Smithee said:

 

I came across Mark E Smith a couple of years ago. It'll probably be no surprise to hear it was in a pub in Salford and that he was a surly prick.

 

Even when you told him you were an Edinburgh Man?   :huh:

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Smithee
29 minutes ago, Auld Reekin' said:

 

Even when you told him you were an Edinburgh Man?   :huh:

 

:isee:

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80bob

Sean Ryder can tell a true gritty view on life

 

Son, I'm 30 
I only went with your mother 'cause she's dirty 
And I don't have a decent bone in me

 

probably not one for the purest’s but does paint lyrical  picture

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Auld Reekin'
1 hour ago, 80bob said:

Son, I'm 30 
I only went with your mother 'cause she's dirty 
And I don't have a decent bone in me

(But to be quite honest, neither did she...)

 

f.t.f.y.

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Jamhammer

All my favourites are on here already

Dylan is the one for me. When you look at how old he was when he was writing stuff like “The Times they are a Changing” and “Masters of war” it beggars belief.

Paul Weller, with the Jam was only a couple of years older than me and was writing a lot of songs that spoke to me.

Nick Cave I’ve got into later on

Paul Simon, Tom Waits

Nowadays Jake Smith/White Buffalo is writing some tremendous songs. Sturgill Simpson, Beth Hart, Lana del Ray too

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scott herbertson

The Trash Can Sinatras John Douglas writes a mean song, especially the lyrics

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Les Izemore
On 24/09/2019 at 06:44, ri Alban said:

In your opinion. 

 

Of course it’s “in my opinion”. Wtf else would it be in. 

 

Music, by its very nature, is subjective. It’s about how we feel.  

 

You’ve nailed it though. 

 

Blind allegiance betters taste, or feeling. So. So. Wrong. 

 

I can turn off a band one day but love them the next. 

 

I’m fickle that way. 

 

In a lot of ways I ****ing despise The Clash. But I love a lot of their choons. Then I think about it and I realise I actually despise the folk that will blindly give them a pass despite them churning out some shite. It’s not the bands fault, they can’t be expected to be held to impossible standards. It’s the ******s that insist the band can ‘do no wrong.’

 

They were great, for a while. Then they went shite. 

 

Its only one example, and I really can’t be arsed typing anymore. 

 

Shorthand: you’re so right and so wrong. 

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milky_26

dolores o'riordan - zombie is such a powerful song

amy lee - a lot of their stuff is about her struggles and issues she has suffered

klaus meine - still loving you and winds of change, just look at the topics of them

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