DG_HMFC Posted September 11, 2019 Posted September 11, 2019 He could do a job. Easily one of the best CM's ever to play the game. Proper world class footballer. Quote
jake Posted September 11, 2019 Posted September 11, 2019 Be good to see Hearts give youth a chance. Quote
SpruceBringsteen Posted September 11, 2019 Posted September 11, 2019 Easily in a top 100 centre mids of all time. Quote
ƒιѕнρℓαρѕ Posted September 11, 2019 Posted September 11, 2019 1 hour ago, DG_HMFC said: He could do a job. Easily one of the best CM's ever to play the game. Proper world class footballer. Yep, a truly brilliant player. His ability to disguise what he was actually up to was amazing, his touch, vision, precision and football brain were first rate and he was a proper snarly wee ******* too. I love him! Quote
CloustonHMFC Posted September 12, 2019 Posted September 12, 2019 Very underrated when he was playing, top player. Quote
JamboAndrew Posted September 12, 2019 Posted September 12, 2019 One of those ridiculously naturally gifted players that didn't need to try by all accounts. Apparently kept himself to himself but was pretty much first off the training pitch every day. But a joy to watch. Watching players like him and zidane always reminded me why I could never call myself a footballer. Quote
i8hibsh Posted September 12, 2019 Posted September 12, 2019 6 hours ago, SpruceBringsteen said: Easily in a top 100 centre mids of all time. What about Perry Kitchen? Quote
moz Posted September 12, 2019 Posted September 12, 2019 (edited) 16 minutes ago, i8hibsh said: What about Perry Kitchen? Edited September 12, 2019 by moz Quote
gashauskis9 Posted September 12, 2019 Posted September 12, 2019 That point would be more accurate if Man Utd we’re playing against retired/semi retired players every week. That said, he was one of the best midfielders I’ve ever seen. Quote
Dalstonjambo Posted September 12, 2019 Posted September 12, 2019 This game was live on sky sports i see. Probably paid more for it, gave it more air time and more analysis than they do Scottish football. Quote
PB21 Posted September 12, 2019 Posted September 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, Dalstonjambo said: This game was live on sky sports i see. Probably paid more for it, gave it more air time and more analysis than they do Scottish football. Probably because it was of higher level Quote
Morgan Posted September 12, 2019 Posted September 12, 2019 The best five midfielders I’ve seen in my lifetime? Scholes Zidane Pirlo Iniesta Xavi In no particular order. Quote
Cruyff Turn Posted September 12, 2019 Posted September 12, 2019 7 minutes ago, Morgan said: The best five midfielders I’ve seen in my lifetime? Scholes Zidane Pirlo Iniesta Xavi In no particular order. Couldn’t argue with that tbh. I’d say the same. Quote
Beast Boy Posted September 12, 2019 Posted September 12, 2019 9 minutes ago, Morgan said: The best five midfielders I’ve seen in my lifetime? Scholes Zidane Pirlo Iniesta Xavi In no particular order. 2 minutes ago, Cruyff Turn said: Couldn’t argue with that tbh. I’d say the same. I’d maybe agree too... but only after Morgs said “in no particular order”! Not having Scholes before Zidane, despite how good he was and despite ZZ modestly playing him up. 😄 Quote
Big Slim Stylee Posted September 12, 2019 Posted September 12, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Morgan said: The best five midfielders I’ve seen in my lifetime? Scholes Zidane Pirlo Iniesta Xavi In no particular order. And it’s interesting that Zidane, Xavi and Iniesta have all said Paul Scholes was a player they really admired. High praise indeed. Edited September 12, 2019 by Big Slim Stylee Autocorrect said Zinfandel 😀😀😀 Quote
Beast Boy Posted September 12, 2019 Posted September 12, 2019 Just now, Big Slim Stylee said: And it’s interesting that Zinfandel, Xavi and Iniesta have all said Paul Scholes was a player they really admired. High praise indeed. Wee pink-faced ginger lad with nae chin, he was never going to be appreciated as much with Giggs and Beckham strutting about on the same pitch... or Ronaldo for that matter. Fashionable players grab the limelight and the workers (even the top ones) can be overlooked in their presence. It’s testament to how unbelievably good Zidane was, that he is rightly recognised as the best of his era, despite being a big balding guy with bushy eyebrows and a funny nose. Scholes was a fantastic player, but Zidane was head and shoulders above imo. Quote
Cruyff Turn Posted September 12, 2019 Posted September 12, 2019 14 minutes ago, Icon of Symmetry said: I’d maybe agree too... but only after Morgs said “in no particular order”! Not having Scholes before Zidane, despite how good he was and despite ZZ modestly playing him up. 😄 Thinking about it, in my lifetime that would be the list plus maybe Rivaldo and Nedved. In @Morgan ‘s, Platini, Gullit, Matthaus?? Quote
Beast Boy Posted September 12, 2019 Posted September 12, 2019 Just now, Cruyff Turn said: Thinking about it, in my lifetime that would be the list plus maybe Rivaldo and Nedved. In @Morgan ‘s, Platini, Gullit, Matthaus?? Zidane then in no particular order: Pirlo Iniesta Figo Scholes Nedved for me, I think... give it five minutes though, and that list will have changed again! (apart from ZZ as #1) Quote
Morgan Posted September 12, 2019 Posted September 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, Cruyff Turn said: Thinking about it, in my lifetime that would be the list plus maybe Rivaldo and Nedved. In @Morgan ‘s, Platini, Gullit, Matthaus?? I’ve just come back on to add Platini! Well done, you beat me to it! : And of course, John McGinn. Quote
Morgan Posted September 12, 2019 Posted September 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, Icon of Symmetry said: Zidane then in no particular order: Pirlo Iniesta Figo Scholes Nedved for me, I think... give it five minutes though, and that list will have changed again! (apart from ZZ as #1) Yes, probably Zizou at numero uno for me too. I shook the great man’s hand back in 2008. My wife fainted. Quote
Beast Boy Posted September 12, 2019 Posted September 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, Morgan said: Yes, probably Zizou at numero uno for me too. I shook the great man’s hand back in 2008. My wife fainted. Fainted? I’d have probably stickied up my jockies. Quote
Morgan Posted September 12, 2019 Posted September 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, Icon of Symmetry said: Fainted? I’d have probably stickied up my jockies. Oh, I did that too. Quote
Beast Boy Posted September 12, 2019 Posted September 12, 2019 Just now, Morgan said: Oh, I did that too. Quote
jb102 Posted September 12, 2019 Posted September 12, 2019 He kept his head down and made his gaffer wewy pwoud. In return he was bestowed with a full career and unimaginable wealth. Just do what Fergie told you and don't be a wido or you got emptied. Quote
EVHearts Posted September 12, 2019 Posted September 12, 2019 Class but couldn’t time a tackle very well 😂😂 Quote
JamboAndrew Posted September 12, 2019 Posted September 12, 2019 2 hours ago, Icon of Symmetry said: Zidane then in no particular order: Pirlo Iniesta Figo Scholes Nedved for me, I think... give it five minutes though, and that list will have changed again! (apart from ZZ as #1) Interesting that most people greatest player lists are strikers and midfielders. This is in no way a go at you IoS. Your post is just a good example. For me I think the Maldini's, Nesta's of this world never get the credit they are due when it comes to truly great players. Players like Beckenbauer and Sammer redefined the role of a defender in how they played. And players like Hidegkuti invented new roles. The false 9 in this case. I tire of the Messi and Ronaldo debate, as both have had great teams set up to suport them for large chunks of their careers. And a lot seems to be judged on how many goals they score. I don't think they have really changed the game though, unlike some.of the real greats. But then that's just my opinion. And, if you're judged on goals as a great player, no one ever mentions people like Fernando Peyroteo. All subjective, I know. But there's my piece on defenders and players that left real legacies. Quote
Beast Boy Posted September 12, 2019 Posted September 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, JamboAndrew said: Interesting that most people greatest player lists are strikers and midfielders. This is in no way a go at you IoS. Your post is just a good example. For me I think the Maldini's, Nesta's of this world never get the credit they are due when it comes to truly great players. Players like Beckenbauer and Sammer redefined the role of a defender in how they played. And players like Hidegkuti invented new roles. The false 9 in this case. I tire of the Messi and Ronaldo debate, as both have had great teams set up to suport them for large chunks of their careers. And a lot seems to be judged on how many goals they score. I don't think they have really changed the game though, unlike some.of the real greats. But then that's just my opinion. And, if you're judged on goals as a great player, no one ever mentions people like Fernando Peyroteo. All subjective, I know. But there's my piece on defenders and players that left real legacies. No mate. I agree with you to be honest. But the post of mine that you quoted was part of a debate about best midfielders of our lifetimes. 👍 Quote
Dallas Green Posted September 12, 2019 Posted September 12, 2019 3 hours ago, Morgan said: The best five midfielders I’ve seen in my lifetime? Scholes Zidane Pirlo Iniesta Xavi In no particular order. 100% agree. Quote
Morgan Posted September 12, 2019 Posted September 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Dallas Green said: 100% agree. Quote
JamboAndrew Posted September 12, 2019 Posted September 12, 2019 50 minutes ago, Icon of Symmetry said: No mate. I agree with you to be honest. But the post of mine that you quoted was part of a debate about best midfielders of our lifetimes. 👍 Darn. That'll teach me to read back before posting. Quote
Penrices left boot Posted September 12, 2019 Posted September 12, 2019 4 hours ago, BelgeJambo said: Class but couldn’t time a tackle very well 😂😂 His tackling was brutal at times. Missed by days. Missed by that much it wasn't even classed as a tackle by anyone, just a player flying past another. Great wee player, not flashy, just very good. Don't even know how, but we was brilliant almost every game. Quote
jamboj Posted September 12, 2019 Posted September 12, 2019 Only England would have a player like that and move him wide left to accommodate Lampard and Gerrard. Anyone else would build the team around Scholes - fantastic player. Best English player of my lifetime, by miles. Quote
Spellczech Posted September 12, 2019 Posted September 12, 2019 The longer he is retired the better he gets...😂😎 Quote
AW1 Posted September 12, 2019 Posted September 12, 2019 Probably my favourite ever player bar Cristiano Ronaldo. His technique was something special. Quote
CJGJ Posted September 12, 2019 Posted September 12, 2019 An excellent player but no Steven Gerrard Quote
ƒιѕнρℓαρѕ Posted September 12, 2019 Posted September 12, 2019 8 hours ago, BelgeJambo said: Class but couldn’t time a tackle very well 😂😂 This is very true but then look at the others he's being compared to - which of them were ferocious, effective tacklers? Quote
kirkierobroy Posted September 12, 2019 Posted September 12, 2019 The de Bruyne of his day - infuriating to see him ripping into a Scotland team because he looked like one of us. Quote
ƒιѕнρℓαρѕ Posted September 12, 2019 Posted September 12, 2019 3 hours ago, AW1 said: Probably my favourite ever player bar Cristiano Ronaldo. His technique was something special. He's probably my favourite player of the last 25 years. I know there have been more skilful, more outrageously talented players, players who've scored more and won more but his style just spoke to me. Everything he did was cunning, sending his opposing number the wrong way, throwing feints and coming up with options no one else on the pitch had seen. Also just a wee guy who never forgot he was an Oldham fan. Superb. Quote
ƒιѕнρℓαρѕ Posted September 12, 2019 Posted September 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, kirkierobroy said: The de Bruyne of his day - infuriating to see him ripping into a Scotland team because he looked like one of us. 👍 Quote
Fitzroy Pointon Posted September 12, 2019 Posted September 12, 2019 One of my favourite players of all time. Just a great midfielder. I remember being at Old Trafford once and seeing Giggs, Beckham and Scholes warming up in front of us. Imagine those options from thd bench. Broke my heart at Hampden in '99 though. Quote
rudi must stay Posted September 13, 2019 Posted September 13, 2019 5 hours ago, CJGJ said: An excellent player but no Steven Gerrard No he wasn't. Gerrard had a different accent Quote
rudi must stay Posted September 13, 2019 Posted September 13, 2019 4 hours ago, kirkierobroy said: The de Bruyne of his day - infuriating to see him ripping into a Scotland team because he looked like one of us. In some ways. But I reckon Scholes could keep the tempo for 90 minutes. De Bruyne will appear and create in matches. This video and many others on the same channel back that up. They are all worth watching http://youtu.be/pPVdVFm0qgY Quote
Ribble Posted September 13, 2019 Posted September 13, 2019 Think that these best midfielder lists are very much dependant on how old you are, I’m creeping towards 40 so surprised not to see the likes of Clarence Seedorf, Frank Rijkard or Lothar Matthias mentioned Quote
Pans Jambo Posted September 13, 2019 Posted September 13, 2019 20 hours ago, Morgan said: The best five midfielders I’ve seen in my lifetime? Scholes Zidane Pirlo Iniesta Xavi In no particular order. Utter PISH! Gary Mackay Neil MacFarlane Derek Ferguson Palazuelos Callum Tapping In no particular order. Piss all over your midfield. Quote
Morgan Posted September 13, 2019 Posted September 13, 2019 2 hours ago, Pans Jambo said: Utter PISH! Gary Mackay Neil MacFarlane Derek Ferguson Palazuelos Callum Tapping In no particular order. Piss all over your midfield. Quote
rudi must stay Posted September 14, 2019 Posted September 14, 2019 On 13/09/2019 at 08:50, Pans Jambo said: Utter PISH! Gary Mackay Neil MacFarlane Derek Ferguson Palazuelos Callum Tapping In no particular order. Piss all over your midfield. Palazuelos The great JBK myth. He was **** Quote
Samuel Camazzola Posted September 14, 2019 Posted September 14, 2019 On 12/09/2019 at 12:28, Icon of Symmetry said: Zidane then in no particular order: Pirlo Iniesta Figo Scholes Nedved for me, I think... give it five minutes though, and that list will have changed again! (apart from ZZ as #1) Think I'd need to Redondo to that list along with Xavi who was previously mentioned. Quote
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