kimosavi Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Interested to see what peoples views are on that 4 week period between sacking Cathro to Appointing Levein and why it took 4 weeks to appoint a man already at the club This isn't another Levein bashing thread I think we went after other candidates, failed to get them, panicked, and gave it to Levein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David McCaig Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 I think we hoped that the 4 weeks would allow Jon Daly to sell himself as the continuity candidate to the fans!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
true-jambo Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 I think they thought they had Dougie Freedman tied up, before Crystal Palace made him a better offer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian Lambretta Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Whatever they did in that 4 weeks it has turned out to be a huge mistake and an nsult to the fans who've had to endure what came after. Oh and it is a levein bashing because its all about him and no one else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimosavi Posted September 7, 2019 Author Share Posted September 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Italian Lambretta said: Whatever they did in that 4 weeks it has turned out to be a huge mistake and an nsult to the fans who've had to endure what came after. Oh and it is a levein bashing because its all about him and no one else. Its no technically 👍 Cathro and Budge are in there too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 29 minutes ago, kimosavi said: Interested to see what peoples views are on that 4 week period between sacking Cathro to Appointing Levein and why it took 4 weeks to appoint a man already at the club This isn't another Levein bashing thread I think we went after other candidates, failed to get them, panicked, and gave it to Levein Of course it's not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimosavi Posted September 7, 2019 Author Share Posted September 7, 2019 Just now, JamboAl said: Of course it's not. I know, glad you agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull's-eye Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Is this a Levein bashing thread ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 13 minutes ago, Noah Claypole said: Is this a Levein bashing thread ? I don’t really care anymore. Lovely out ! 😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Never been discussed before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dayman Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 47 minutes ago, kimosavi said: Interested to see what peoples views are on that 4 week period between sacking Cathro to Appointing Levein and why it took 4 weeks to appoint a man already at the club This isn't another Levein bashing thread I think we went after other candidates, failed to get them, panicked, and gave it to Levein We searched for a good replacement for a couple weeks, realised no one was better than levein, then took a week or so begging levein whilst he was probably bigging up a lot of other managers for the job. Finally he gave in after budge laughed in his face for claiming Pressley was a better option. Levein didn't want the job. That’s why it took a week or two extra. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyK82 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Ultimately, while CL has overseen some memorable results in his 2nd stint in charge, it is patently obvious he isn’t the long term, medium term or even short term option for this club. His record over the last 10 months has been utterly dreadful, notwithstanding the injuries (which is a separate issue altogether!). Contrary to his latest post match interview, it seems clear to me he cannot “fix it”. He’s a dead man walking. I agree with the above posters. By all accounts, Freedman was the no 1 choice. We all know what happened there though. The appointment of CL never sat right with me and smacked of laziness. Sort of like - “ach, he will do”. The position we now find ourselves in is nothing short of ludicrous. The manager is also the DoF and has a place on the board. Monopoly levels of control. An unhealthy control. Even more concerning is that CL is the only ‘football person’ on the board. Which does make me wonder what the rest of the board are prepared to endure and accept before change is enforced, given their apparent lack of knowledge of football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Tick tock... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Chiefo Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Were we trying to fight off all those other suitors in England and abroad who were clamouring to appoint Levein as their new manager?? Understandably he had to weigh up all the offers before deciding to take the job. Whatever, it was probably ABs worst decision since saving the club compounded by a really patronising "light bulb moment" explanation which treated the fans as if we were fools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Noah Claypole said: Is this a Levein bashing thread ? Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubyruby Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 25 minutes ago, MattyK82 said: Ultimately, while CL has overseen some memorable results in his 2nd stint in charge, it is patently obvious he isn’t the long term, medium term or even short term option for this club. His record over the last 10 months has been utterly dreadful, notwithstanding the injuries (which is a separate issue altogether!). Contrary to his latest post match interview, it seems clear to me he cannot “fix it”. He’s a dead man walking. I agree with the above posters. By all accounts, Freedman was the no 1 choice. We all know what happened there though. The appointment of CL never sat right with me and smacked of laziness. Sort of like - “ach, he will do”. The position we now find ourselves in is nothing short of ludicrous. The manager is also the DoF and has a place on the board. Monopoly levels of control. An unhealthy control. Even more concerning is that CL is the only ‘football person’ on the board. Which does make me wonder what the rest of the board are prepared to endure and accept before change is enforced, given their apparent lack of knowledge of football. When the FOH take over will they get to decide or does Budge still get the last word Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo-Jambo Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 54 minutes ago, Dayman said: We searched for a good replacement for a couple weeks, realised no one was better than levein, then took a week or so begging levein whilst he was probably bigging up a lot of other managers for the job. Finally he gave in after budge laughed in his face for claiming Pressley was a better option. Levein didn't want the job. That’s why it took a week or two extra. He didn't want the job because he knew he would be crap at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Noah Claypole said: Is this a Levein bashing thread ? It’ll all go away when he leaves the club. If you or I were making such an arse of the job we’d have walked away months ago because, as hearts supporters, would put the club before personal gains. Never a dull moment at Craig Levein FC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull's-eye Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, GinRummy said: It’ll all go away when he leaves the club. If you or I were making such an arse of the job we’d have walked away months ago because, as hearts supporters, would put the club before personal gains. Never a dull moment at Craig Levein FC. Getting to a Cup final is not being bad at your job. Employing above average signings that have been roundly applauded is not being bad at your job. I'm self employed so don't walk away from any job. We're 4 games in, grow a pair. Edited September 7, 2019 by Noah Claypole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 22 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said: Were we trying to fight off all those other suitors in England and abroad who were clamouring to appoint Levein as their new manager?? Understandably he had to weigh up all the offers before deciding to take the job. Whatever, it was probably ABs worst decision since saving the club compounded by a really patronising "light bulb moment" explanation which treated the fans as if we were fools. We all knew we were getting our pants taken down, mate. When the “ right guy under our nose “ statement came out, most people downed a stiff drink, looked at the positives and were just glad that Cathro was on a train out of Dodge ! In hindsight, which is a wonderful thing, it looks like they carved up a nice wee niche. One which will have to be scrapped if they want a decent support behind them. People will be fooled again though. Talk of more time is fraught with danger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Noah Claypole said: Getting to a Cup final is not being bad at your job. Employing above average signings that have been roundly applauded is not being bad at your job. I'm self employed so don't walk away from any job. We're 4 games in, grow a pair. I’m also self employed so good to find some common ground. Do you think you’ve maybe missed a few things out in your summary? We have reached a cup final, we have signed some good players, we are only 4 games in ... BUT... Go on, i’ve conceded to your points,try giving a bit of balance to your post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull's-eye Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 51 minutes ago, GinRummy said: I’m also self employed so good to find some common ground. Do you think you’ve maybe missed a few things out in your summary? We have reached a cup final, we have signed some good players, we are only 4 games in ... BUT... Go on, i’ve conceded to your points,try giving a bit of balance to your post. My post wasn't a summary, it was a response to yours. But....we'll finish 3rd this season in my opinion. Happy days are on the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Noah Claypole said: My post wasn't a summary, it was a response to yours. But....we'll finish 3rd this season in my opinion. Happy days are on the way. Would be delighted to finish third. I hope you are right. Sorry to touch on the negative but can you seen any downside going forward or is everything in the garden rosy? Edited September 7, 2019 by GinRummy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 This all been done to death Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Shark Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Noah Claypole said: Getting to a Cup final is not being bad at your job. Employing above average signings that have been roundly applauded is not being bad at your job. I'm self employed so don't walk away from any job. We're 4 games in, grow a pair. Can I work for you please ? You appear to have the memory/ attention span of a goldfish. Oh and by the way you haven't paid me this week yet 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It should have been ten Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 3 hours ago, Noah Claypole said: Is this a Levein bashing thread ? Are there any other type of threads 😏 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It should have been ten Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 2 hours ago, Noah Claypole said: Getting to a Cup final is not being bad at your job. Employing above average signings that have been roundly applauded is not being bad at your job. I'm self employed so don't walk away from any job. We're 4 games in, grow a pair. Spot on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam_the_legend Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 It’s irrelevant now. We are where we are. The important thing is to use sound judgement in our next hire, which hopefully happens soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sagan Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, Adam_the_legend said: It’s irrelevant now. We are where we are. The important thing is to use sound judgement in our next hire, which hopefully happens soon. There will be a statement saying that they've realised that the right man has been here all along, then the kit man will come out with a suit on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam_the_legend Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, Sagan said: There will be a statement saying that they've realised that the right man has been here all along, then the kit man will come out with a suit on. I have a terrible feeling that the poor form will drag on for a few more weeks then AB’s solution will be CL back solely as DoF and McPhee into HC. As that would change anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 27 minutes ago, It should have been ten said: Are there any other type of threads 😏 Not after about ten posts. No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sagan Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, Adam_the_legend said: I have a terrible feeling that the poor form will drag on for a few more weeks then AB’s solution will be CL back solely as DoF and McPhee into HC. As that would change anything. Lose to hibs and all hell will break loose. Win and he's probably got yet another life line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sagan Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 2 hours ago, Noah Claypole said: My post wasn't a summary, it was a response to yours. But....we'll finish 3rd this season in my opinion. Happy days are on the way. Did you think we would finish 3rd last season as well? What are you basing your prediction on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo-Jambo Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 13 minutes ago, Sagan said: Did you think we would finish 3rd last season as well? What are you basing your prediction on? Probably Levein getting the sack. 😋 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamhammer Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 If I can’t bash Craig in this thread I’m out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sagan Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 5 minutes ago, Robbo-Jambo said: Probably Levein getting the sack. 😋 Ha Someone suggested that Hearts employ people to post on here, It certainly makes you think when you read comments like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad Magic Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 This thread is horse dung. Not the first thread the OP has created recently that also was horse dung. Caveat: This reply is not intended to harass, bully, stalk, intimidate or in any way cause the OP distress. She’s a bit precious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sagan Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 37 minutes ago, Vlad Magic said: This thread is horse dung. Not the first thread the OP has created recently that also was horse dung. Caveat: This reply is not intended to harass, bully, stalk, intimidate or in any way cause the OP distress. She’s a bit precious. Make a thread that isn't horse dung then. Let's have it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 6 hours ago, David McCaig said: I think we hoped that the 4 weeks would allow Jon Daly to sell himself as the continuity candidate to the fans!! “We” hoped???? You mean Levein hoped!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull's-eye Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Sagan said: Did you think we would finish 3rd last season as well? What are you basing your prediction on? Bla bla bla. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sagan Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Noah Claypole said: Bla bla bla. haha. Nae bother craig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimosavi Posted September 7, 2019 Author Share Posted September 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Vlad Magic said: This thread is horse dung. Not the first thread the OP has created recently that also was horse dung. Caveat: This reply is not intended to harass, bully, stalk, intimidate or in any way cause the OP distress. She’s a bit precious. Hiya VM 😁😁😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimosavi Posted September 7, 2019 Author Share Posted September 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Vlad Magic said: This thread is horse dung. Not the first thread the OP has created recently that also was horse dung. Caveat: This reply is not intended to harass, bully, stalk, intimidate or in any way cause the OP distress. She’s a bit precious. Just ignore it if its horse dung. Simples Now there's a good lad 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 I have heard a theory Levein was told to be manager and fix the problems Cathro made as he was Levein's choice I think, thinking about it, that's probably true. Maybe it wasn't done forcing him to be but it's the same thing no matter how she did it. She does have a tough side as she's shown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad Magic Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 41 minutes ago, kimosavi said: Hiya VM 😁😁😁 Evening precious. Xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jock _turd Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Just now, rudi must stay said: I have heard a theory Levein was told to be manager and fix the problems Cathro made as he was Levein's choice I think, thinking about it, that's probably true. Maybe it wasn't done forcing him to be but it's the same thing no matter how she did it. She does have a tough side as she's shown She like made him an offer he could not refuse Pilton stylee?... Do you think she will have him whacked then? I mean nothing personal just business but he has made an erse of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimosavi Posted September 7, 2019 Author Share Posted September 7, 2019 9 minutes ago, Vlad Magic said: Evening precious. Xx Hiya Babe x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sagan Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 LEVEIN AHHHHHHHHHHHH Waiting for netflix to make a horror movie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 1 minute ago, jock _turd said: She like made him an offer he could not refuse Pilton stylee?... Do you think she will have him whacked then? I mean nothing personal just business but he has made an erse of it He accepted and she was happy. I think in her mind he's the dream appointment and we can get noone better. So we just have to accept that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 45 minutes ago, rudi must stay said: I have heard a theory Levein was told to be manager and fix the problems Cathro made as he was Levein's choice I think, thinking about it, that's probably true. Maybe it wasn't done forcing him to be but it's the same thing no matter how she did it. She does have a tough side as she's shown At the shareholders meeting after Cathro got punted, Levein said "it's my fault and I will fix it" or words to that effect. He's still saying I will fix it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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