Last Laff Posted September 12, 2019 Posted September 12, 2019 1 hour ago, We_are_the_Hearts said: Big man deserves a start on Saturday Based on what exactly? Quote
We_are_the_Hearts Posted September 12, 2019 Posted September 12, 2019 7 minutes ago, Last Laff said: Based on what exactly? Scapegoat for the Ross County game IMO. Him and Washington worked well in the Aberdeen game when GW came on. Defo worth another try for me. Quote
Last Laff Posted September 12, 2019 Posted September 12, 2019 19 minutes ago, We_are_the_Hearts said: Scapegoat for the Ross County game IMO. Him and Washington worked well in the Aberdeen game when GW came on. Defo worth another try for me. Fair enough, I feel he’s been figured out though and this will be his last season up here. GW I’m guessing is Washington? Quote
We_are_the_Hearts Posted September 12, 2019 Posted September 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, Last Laff said: Fair enough, I feel he’s been figured out though and this will be his last season up here. GW I’m guessing is Washington? Sorry yeah, typed a G instead of a C. Just think Uche could be better with someone up there with him as was hung out to dry himself a lot last year. If he has 2 or 3 on him then creates space for the likes of Conor and Meshino. Quote
Last Laff Posted September 12, 2019 Posted September 12, 2019 Just now, We_are_the_Hearts said: Sorry yeah, typed a G instead of a C. Just think Uche could be better with someone up there with him as was hung out to dry himself a lot last year. If he has 2 or 3 on him then creates space for the likes of Conor and Meshino. Yeah it’s a very valid point mate! Will we go two up top though and would it lead to just lazily launching balls up to the big guy? It’s a conundrum. Quote
We_are_the_Hearts Posted September 12, 2019 Posted September 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Last Laff said: Yeah it’s a very valid point mate! Will we go two up top though and would it lead to just lazily launching balls up to the big guy? It’s a conundrum. We refrained from doing that at Pittodrie and cut them open a few times. Worth a try for me. Big man gives it his all anyway and will be itching to prove a point. Quote
Firefox Posted September 12, 2019 Posted September 12, 2019 Uche came from Cambridge United, a league 2 side. We knew he was young and a raw talent when we got him. If he was an out and out goal machine he would have been playing at a higher level in England. The problem he has has is that we constantly used him as a target man, lumping long balls up to him for him to control with his back to the opposing goal. most teams put 2 men on him and any time he gets the ball they are all over him like a rash. He is at his most effective when hes given the ball at his feet and can run at defenders.Used in this way he might not score lots of goals but he will lay chances on for the likes of Washington, Naismith and Claire. His part in Lafferty's goal against Celtic is a prime example. He's young, he gives 100% and if used correctly is a very useful player to have in the squad. Quote
GinRummy Posted September 12, 2019 Posted September 12, 2019 11 minutes ago, Last Laff said: Yeah it’s a very valid point mate! Will we go two up top though and would it lead to just lazily launching balls up to the big guy? It’s a conundrum. Not wanting to turn this into a Levein thread but surely if players are instructed to play a certain way (ie not bullet the ball up the park) then that's just what they need to do. Read comments from Berra a while ago saying the first player he looks for when he gets the ball is Uche. If instructed to play a short easy pass and play through the midfield then surely players must try and do that. Quote
Cruyff Turn Posted September 12, 2019 Posted September 12, 2019 I’m sure he will start on Saturday with Washington. Quote
davemclaren Posted September 12, 2019 Posted September 12, 2019 57 minutes ago, Firefox said: Uche came from Cambridge United, a league 2 side. We knew he was young and a raw talent when we got him. If he was an out and out goal machine he would have been playing at a higher level in England. The problem he has has is that we constantly used him as a target man, lumping long balls up to him for him to control with his back to the opposing goal. most teams put 2 men on him and any time he gets the ball they are all over him like a rash. He is at his most effective when hes given the ball at his feet and can run at defenders.Used in this way he might not score lots of goals but he will lay chances on for the likes of Washington, Naismith and Claire. His part in Lafferty's goal against Celtic is a prime example. He's young, he gives 100% and if used correctly is a very useful player to have in the squad. Yeah, he can certainly play a role for us in the right formation. Quote
NB GIN Posted September 12, 2019 Posted September 12, 2019 2 hours ago, We_are_the_Hearts said: Scapegoat for the Ross County game IMO. Him and Washington worked well in the Aberdeen game when GW came on. Defo worth another try for me. Agree his work rate is infectious Quote
NB GIN Posted September 12, 2019 Posted September 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Cruyff Turn said: I’m sure he will start on Saturday with Washington. I don’t think he will think it will be a 3 behind Washington of Clare Mulraney and the Japanese lad woukd rather see uche and washington up top than Clare behind Washington for sure Quote
Jambo 4 Ever Posted September 12, 2019 Posted September 12, 2019 5 hours ago, Jim Panzee said: yeap - totally agree with this. if he could be coached / learn how to be a tad more canny when going down to win free kicks that would be good. Not cheating, but making it more difficult for the refs to side with the defenders. Berra is good at this at the other end of the park - often winning free kicks when to me it looks 50/50 with the opposing player. yeh he goes down far too easily and then waves his arms up in the air Quote
been here before Posted September 12, 2019 Posted September 12, 2019 3 hours ago, Natural Orders said: yeh he goes down far too easily and then waves his arms up in the air Sounds a bit of a panzy. Quote
Lovecraft Posted September 12, 2019 Posted September 12, 2019 I think he will start against Hibs. They are weak all over the park. Quote
Penrices left boot Posted September 12, 2019 Posted September 12, 2019 He needs to stay on his feet and play the ****ing ball. When he does that he's good. Back to goal he's poor but running with the ball he has something about him. Running, about, too many touches then falling over or not even touching the ball and falling over is all to regular recently tho. Get the ball out your feet, run, then pass or hit a shot. Don't worry about close lining or body slamming the defender, not required. I'd play him out wide as well maybe. Quote
stevie1874 Posted September 12, 2019 Posted September 12, 2019 38 minutes ago, Lovecraft said: I think he will start against Hibs. They are weak all over the park. According to my Hibby mate they are weakest in midfield, I think we’ll flood the midfield so could see us playing 1 up top. Quote
Sagan Posted September 12, 2019 Posted September 12, 2019 Fifa is reasonably accurate when it comes to rating players. Uche has been giving a good rating for strength, which is accurate! Does uche go down easily at times? Yes he does! The bullying of the OP from the usual posters is unacceptable in my opinion. Quote
Robbo-Jambo Posted September 12, 2019 Posted September 12, 2019 5 hours ago, Natural Orders said: yeh he goes down far too easily and then waves his arms up in the air He doesn't go down too easy that's the problem. He tries to stay up too long and the defender gets the foul. He needs to get more savvy. Quote
stevie1874 Posted September 12, 2019 Posted September 12, 2019 38 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said: He needs to stay on his feet and play the ****ing ball. When he does that he's good. Back to goal he's poor but running with the ball he has something about him. Running, about, too many touches then falling over or not even touching the ball and falling over is all to regular recently tho. Get the ball out your feet, run, then pass or hit a shot. Don't worry about close lining or body slamming the defender, not required. I'd play him out wide as well maybe. Uche is an asset, but when on the pitch he needs to mix up his game, sitting on the last man, dropping well short and moving out wide also making runs when he’s not going to get the ball to drag defenders all over the place. Other teams have sussed out the big target man who holds up the ball standing beside the centre half. Other players in the team need to be clever when giving him the ball ie not always a lump forward when he’s got his back to goal. Quote
Sagan Posted September 12, 2019 Posted September 12, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Robbo-Jambo said: He doesn't go down too easy that's the problem. He tries to stay up too long and the defender gets the foul. He needs to get more savvy. I disagree, he's a beast of a man in football terms. He goes down like a PANSY at times. He needs to just stay up and pass the ball. I've just realised that i've agreed with smith's right boot there, Unbelievable jeff. Uche is a very good player to have in your team when he's fit and match sharp. If he could add being more of team player (passing the ball more) instead of just wanting to ram his way through 9 players then fall over, he would be one of our main assets. Edited September 12, 2019 by Sagan Quote
Robbo-Jambo Posted September 12, 2019 Posted September 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Sagan said: I disagree, he's a beast of a man in football terms. He goes down like a PANSY at times. He needs to just stay up and pass the ball. Watch closely when he has 2 men on him he tries to barge his way through then the defenders get the decision. He needs to be more streetwise imo. Quote
Robbo-Jambo Posted September 12, 2019 Posted September 12, 2019 9 hours ago, Firefox said: Uche came from Cambridge United, a league 2 side. We knew he was young and a raw talent when we got him. If he was an out and out goal machine he would have been playing at a higher level in England. The problem he has has is that we constantly used him as a target man, lumping long balls up to him for him to control with his back to the opposing goal. most teams put 2 men on him and any time he gets the ball they are all over him like a rash. He is at his most effective when hes given the ball at his feet and can run at defenders.Used in this way he might not score lots of goals but he will lay chances on for the likes of Washington, Naismith and Claire. His part in Lafferty's goal against Celtic is a prime example. He's young, he gives 100% and if used correctly is a very useful player to have in the squad. Good post. We should play to his strengths. Quote
Sagan Posted September 12, 2019 Posted September 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Robbo-Jambo said: Watch closely when he has 2 men on him he tries to barge his way through then the defenders get the decision. He needs to be more streetwise imo. He needs to stop looking for fouls! Barge your way through 9 mine by all means, but keep your head up and look for the pass. Quote
Lovecraft Posted September 12, 2019 Posted September 12, 2019 30 minutes ago, stevie1874 said: According to my Hibby mate they are weakest in midfield, I think we’ll flood the midfield so could see us playing 1 up top. Yeah, it was a Hibby at work that was saying they are weak and get bullied easily. Quote
J80MBO Posted September 12, 2019 Posted September 12, 2019 11 hours ago, Last Laff said: Based on what exactly? His opinion Quote
Last Laff Posted September 12, 2019 Posted September 12, 2019 46 minutes ago, J80MBO said: His opinion Yes and thankfully he justified what his opinion was. It would be a shit place to discuss football if it was just based on opinions without any clarification smart arse. Quote
Jim Panzee Posted September 13, 2019 Posted September 13, 2019 21 hours ago, Natural Orders said: yeh he goes down far too easily and then waves his arms up in the air you misunderstand me. Uche is still being fouled when he goes down. hopefully with more coaching / experiencing / learning from our senior pro's he will start to learn how to get the ref to change decisions in his favour. Quote
doctor jambo Posted September 13, 2019 Posted September 13, 2019 Do we still use the word pansy? Quote
Peebo Posted September 14, 2019 Posted September 14, 2019 Seems to have zero footballing intelligence. Tries hard and has some ability, but his style of play will never work here. A walking yellow card. Quote
dode Posted September 14, 2019 Posted September 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, Peebo said: Seems to have zero footballing intelligence. Tries hard and has some ability, but his style of play will never work here. A walking yellow card. the guy has to go back south as every ref has bought the big laddie looks after himself media line . the last minute today he was physically assaulted and the ref didn’t care . He will get feck all like De vries before him. Quote
Gorgiewave Posted September 14, 2019 Posted September 14, 2019 Negatives: whines, too many stupid bookings, scores too few goals, is ball greedy, is slow. Positives: tries hard, is powerful. I'd make him a sub at best. Quote
The rat catcher Posted September 14, 2019 Posted September 14, 2019 4 minutes ago, Gorgiewave said: Negatives: whines, too many stupid bookings, scores too few goals, is ball greedy, is slow. Positives: tries hard, is powerful. I'd make him a sub at best. Where does that leave Clare, Maclean, Mulraney, Brandon, Irving etc? Quote
Gorgiewave Posted September 14, 2019 Posted September 14, 2019 12 minutes ago, The rat catcher said: Where does that leave Clare, Maclean, Mulraney, Brandon, Irving etc? Clare: release/sell. Maclean: release/sell or retire. Mulraney: improved and has pace. Play through centre more. Brandon: reserve right back. Irving: possibly the pick of the recent youngsters. Quote
Russ1977 Posted September 14, 2019 Posted September 14, 2019 Tries like a bear but just not very good. His attempted lay off in the lead up to their second sums him up completely. What should have been a simple pass and us attacking ends up with us conceding. Quote
JamboAl1965 Posted September 14, 2019 Posted September 14, 2019 like him, but no touch and absolutely zero game intelligence. Quote
Saint Jambo Posted September 14, 2019 Posted September 14, 2019 1 minute ago, JamboAl1965 said: like him, but no touch and absolutely zero game intelligence. Add to that, more interest in creating contact with the defender than paying attention to the ball, horribly slow, and with no natural finishing ability. Useless. On top of that he gets nothing from referees and when we play him we go long ball. Neither of those things are his fault (well both are a bit due to other flaws in his game but not totally his fault at least) but both reasons not to play him. Can't see him starting under a new manager. Quote
allystrachan Posted September 14, 2019 Posted September 14, 2019 Great defence splitting pass for the Motherwell goal today. If he could just pass to an attacking hearts player like that we would have a little progress. Quote
Yoda Posted September 14, 2019 Posted September 14, 2019 7 minutes ago, TheOak88 said: Man of the match today. You're having a laugh. Primarily responsible for the 2nd Well goal. Ball either bounces off him or he fails to make the obvious pass. When the ball is played to him at chest height, instead of trying to kill the ball and bring it down, he seems to flip it up in the air like he's doing keep-uppy. Can't fault his effort, but just not good enough. Quote
S Form Posted September 14, 2019 Posted September 14, 2019 Uche is never a footballer. Perhaps an option to have on the bench but anyone who thinks he’s a starter has completely lost the plot. Quote
Jamhammer Posted September 14, 2019 Posted September 14, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Yoda said: You're having a laugh. Primarily responsible for the 2nd Well goal. Ball either bounces off him or he fails to make the obvious pass. When the ball is played to him at chest height, instead of trying to kill the ball and bring it down, he seems to flip it up in the air like he's doing keep-uppy. Can't fault his effort, but just not good enough. Sponsors man of the match, Fact. Can only assume they were pissed I'd be very interested to see how he played under a different manager before I binned him to be honest. Edited September 14, 2019 by Jamhammer Quote
been here before Posted September 14, 2019 Posted September 14, 2019 12 minutes ago, BarneyBattles said: Do you mean he got sponsors man of the match or something or that you think he was man of the match? I was away long before they announced it. Sponsors. It was announced on the way out to much merriment and mirth. Quote
Famous 1874 Posted September 14, 2019 Posted September 14, 2019 Utter shite today. Bar that one good run in the first half. Physical beast, terrible footballer. Quote
Yoda Posted September 14, 2019 Posted September 14, 2019 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Jamhammer said: Sponsors man of the match, Fact. Can only assume they were pissed I'd be very interested to see how he played under a different manager before I binned him to be honest. Cheers, I was away before the end so didn't hear that he was the sponsors MoM. Not just pissed, they must have been handing out tenner bags in the sponsors lounge. Agree, I'd like to see how he plays under a different manager, but I'm not hopeful. Edited September 14, 2019 by Yoda Quote
TheOak88 Posted September 14, 2019 Posted September 14, 2019 34 minutes ago, BarneyBattles said: Do you mean he got sponsors man of the match or something or that you think he was man of the match? I was away long before they announced it. I like Uche but he needs to concentrate more on the ball rather than the opposition and ref. He’s constantly looking to barge or climb over an opponent and looking to see if the ref has seen this or that rather than just getting on with the game. He’s not alone in this in our team. He got the sponsors Man of the Match. Shows you how desperate things are. Just remember this is a guy that Levein game a 3 year contract extension to. And there are people on this forum thinking he does a great job as DOF. Quote
ramrod Posted September 14, 2019 Posted September 14, 2019 Thought he showed a big improvement in his play today tbf . Shocking for their second goal but overall it was better Quote
NaturalOrder74 Posted September 14, 2019 Posted September 14, 2019 Best player on the park today Quote
TheOak88 Posted September 14, 2019 Posted September 14, 2019 30 minutes ago, S Form said: Uche is never a footballer. Perhaps an option to have on the bench but anyone who thinks he’s a starter has completely lost the plot. This is it. Uche is a reasonable squad player, but that is all. Unfortunately when he plays we immediately revert to long punts towards him. Quote
TheOak88 Posted September 14, 2019 Posted September 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, NaturalOrder74 said: Best player on the park today Quote
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