Beast Boy Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 (edited) https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/latest-hearts-news/hearts-21st-century-xi-the-two-strikers-revealed-1-4964974 Niemi Fyssas Berra Pressley Patterson Skacel Hartley Cameron Flogel DeVries Jankauskas More of a popularity contest than a team picked on either ability alone, or blend and balance. Interesting though nonetheless. CB obviously the most controversial, as you would expect. Goalkeeper probably the toughest choice for most people. Some unbelievable players not making it in due to an outstanding alternative in their position. Paterson as the RB is another one that probably doesn’t fit for many, as despite playing there for us, it’s not proved to be his best position. Whats everyone else’s Hearts 21st Century XI? Mine is probably: Gordon Fyssas Webster Pressley Patterson Skacel Hartley Cameron Suso Fuller Jankauskas NB- I’d probably have had Hristos Karipidis in there beside Hartley or Cameron, but genuinely find it hard to separate the two of them. Probably have him beside Hartley, but feels terrible dropping Cameron. Bit of fun obviously, but almost inevitably will turn in to a boring thread about Gordon, Webster, Pressley and Zaliukas and whether or not they are reptilian in nature. 🙄 Edited July 16, 2019 by Icon of Symmetry Quick change on the right flank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4forDevries Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Such a tease.....when we have our current midfield 🤤 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted July 16, 2019 Author Share Posted July 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, 4forDevries said: Such a tease.....when we have our current midfield 🤤 Maybe in ten years time Haring, Smith, Irving and Cochrane will be competing for a slot? 😜 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Gordon Neilson Webster Presley Takis Skacel Hartley Fulton McCann Bednar Kyle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted July 16, 2019 Author Share Posted July 16, 2019 9 minutes ago, ri Alban said: Gordon Neilson Webster Presley Takis Skacel Hartley Fulton McCann Bednar Kyle McCann is a tricky one (no pun intended). The player we got back in 2006 was a shadow of the 1996-1998 player. That’s where we start getting in to the realms of whether we are talking about a player in their prime, or when they were at Hearts in the 21st century. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmiyaHearts Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 43 minutes ago, 4forDevries said: Such a tease.....when we have our current midfield 🤤 I'd take any one of those outfield players in our midfield just now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, Icon of Symmetry said: McCann is a tricky one (no pun intended). The player we got back in 2006 was a shadow of the 1996-1998 player. That’s where we start getting in to the realms of whether we are talking about a player in their prime, or when they were at Hearts in the 21st century. Thought I'd cheat a wee bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted July 16, 2019 Author Share Posted July 16, 2019 1 minute ago, ri Alban said: Thought I'd cheat a wee bit. It's always the way with these things, eh? It starts out a pretty simple exercise, and the caveats start popping up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickycameron98 Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Ok i would probably go... Gordon Fyssas Pressley Berra Neilson Skacel Cameron Hartley Suso Naismith Jankauskas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy T Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Icon of Symmetry said: https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/latest-hearts-news/hearts-21st-century-xi-the-two-strikers-revealed-1-4964974 Niemi Fyssas Berra Pressley Patterson Skacel Hartley Cameron Flogel DeVries Jankauskas More of a popularity contest than a team picked on either ability alone, or blend and balance. Interesting though nonetheless. CB obviously the most controversial, as you would expect. Goalkeeper probably the toughest choice for most people. Some unbelievable players not making it in due to an outstanding alternative in their position. Paterson as the RB is another one that probably doesn’t fit for many, as despite playing there for us, it’s not proved to be his best position. Whats everyone else’s Hearts 21st Century XI? Mine is probably: Gordon Fyssas Webster Pressley Patterson Skacel Hartley Cameron Suso Fuller Jankauskas NB- I’d probably have had Hristos Karipidis in there beside Hartley or Cameron, but genuinely find it hard to separate the two of them. Probably have him beside Hartley, but feels terrible dropping Cameron. Bit of fun obviously, but almost inevitably will turn in to a boring thread about Gordon, Webster, Pressley and Zaliukas and whether or not they are reptilian in nature. 🙄 Suso? Before the likes of Neil McCann? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted July 16, 2019 Author Share Posted July 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Rudy T said: Suso? Before the likes of Neil McCann? Yes, I’d have Suso playing wide right. Certainly before the 2006 central midfield version of Neil McCann. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy T Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 (edited) All opinion I guess but I was never a fan of Suso. McCann on his day was unplayable, couldn’t take a corner though, that used to bug me! Edited July 16, 2019 by Rudy T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busby1985 Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Gordon Neilson Presley Zal Takis Cameron Brellier McCann Hartley Skacel Janni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 13 minutes ago, Rudy T said: All opinion I guess but I was never a fan of Suso. McCann on his day was unplayable, couldn’t take a corner though, that used to bug me! Sadly though his day was not the 21st century. Niemi. Nelson. Webster. Presley. Fyssas. Driver Skacel Hartley Cameron MDV. Bednar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregorski Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 44 minutes ago, Icon of Symmetry said: McCann is a tricky one (no pun intended). The player we got back in 2006 was a shadow of the 1996-1998 player. That’s where we start getting in to the realms of whether we are talking about a player in their prime, or when they were at Hearts in the 21st century. The problem with McCann second time around was his pace had fell way off yet most games he was still used as an out and out winger. In the rare occasions that he was played in a more central role I thought he did a lot better. He was still a talented player. Anyway, getting off topic I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy T Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 27 minutes ago, benny said: Sadly though his day was not the 21st century. Niemi. Nelson. Webster. Presley. Fyssas. Driver Skacel Hartley Cameron MDV. Bednar. Thats fair I suppose. Salvatori would’ve been in every team but he’s was 1999 I’m sure. Still not having Suso mind you. Think I’d go Driver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted July 16, 2019 Author Share Posted July 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, Rudy T said: Thats fair I suppose. Salvatori would’ve been in every team but he’s was 1999 I’m sure. Still not having Suso mind you. Think I’d go Driver. You’d play Andy Driver on the wrong side rather than Suso? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy T Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Just now, Icon of Symmetry said: You’d play Andy Driver on the wrong side rather than Suso? Tbh I’d play most ahead of Suso. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted July 16, 2019 Author Share Posted July 16, 2019 Just now, Rudy T said: Tbh I’d play most ahead of Suso. Why? Suso was an extremely good player who could beat a man for fun, often two men at a time, could score goals and got plenty assists. He’s also a cup winning legend who gave absolutely everything for the team every time he stepped in the pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ribble Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Gordon Paterson, Zal, Berra, Takis Karapidis Cameron Hartley Skacel Janny Velicka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gorgie Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Niemi Nelson Webster Zaliukas Fyssas Hartley Cameron Stamp Naismith Kyle Skacel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 28 minutes ago, Icon of Symmetry said: Why? Suso was an extremely good player who could beat a man for fun, often two men at a time, could score goals and got plenty assists. He’s also a cup winning legend who gave absolutely everything for the team every time he stepped in the pitch. Aye, loved Suso. Had a bit of everything. Scored some cracking goals too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted July 16, 2019 Author Share Posted July 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, Debut 4 said: Aye, loved Suso. Had a bit of everything. Scored some cracking goals too. Great wee player. I'd have loved to have seen him in a stronger Hearts squad/era. Top scorer in the Csaba no strikers era too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Turn Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Niemi Paterson Pressley Webster Fyssas Flogel Hartley Cameron Skacel MDV Velicka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacky87 Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 (edited) Niemi Fyssas Webster Berra Neilson (200 games for club and when we played and won in Europe) ( other than that I have nothing to defend my choice here) Skacel Flogel Cameron/Hartley (struggled here) Suso Pospisil Bednar Both strikers I remember seemed to bang goals in for a laugh but weren't Romanovs favourite. Well that's how I remember it? I can't fault anyone's selections just thought I'd throw some other names in there! Again feel I need to defend my Neilson selection, I just remember him being a constant when our team actually faired fairly well. Edited July 16, 2019 by Blacky87 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gorgie Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 10 minutes ago, Blacky87 said: Niemi Fyssas Webster Berra Neilson (200 games for club and when we played and won in Europe) ( other than that I have nothing to defend my choice here) Skacel Flogel Cameron/Hartley (struggled here) Suso Pospisil Bednar Both strikers I remember seemed to bang goals in for a laugh but weren't Romanovs favourite. Well that's how I remember it? I can't fault anyone's selections just thought I'd throw some other names in there! Again feel I need to defend my Neilson selection, I just remember him being a constant when our team actually faired fairly well. Pospisil is a good shout. Think it was the 06/07 he went through a period of being deadly when coming on as a sub. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceefax Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 (edited) Colin Cameron moved to wolves in August 2001 and Thomas Flogel went back to Austria in summer 2002. Even though they won the cup in ‘98 I think there are players who have been here since 2000 that have played for longer and achieved more in their time at Hearts from the turn of the century. Edited July 16, 2019 by ceefax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brighton Jambo Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, TheStig said: Pospisil is a good shout. Think it was the 06/07 he went through a period of being deadly when coming on as a sub. Pospisil, Janny and Bednar, oh those were that days. I remember the summer of 05 being a belter and those sunny August/September days when we were flying and those three were scoring for fun alongside Rudi and Hartley. Maybe rose tinted glasses but that was as good as I have seen it supporting Hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted July 16, 2019 Author Share Posted July 16, 2019 1 minute ago, ceefax said: Colin Cameron moves to wolves in August 2001 and Thomas Flogel went back to Austria in summer 2002. Even though they won the cup in ‘98 I think there are players who have been here since 2000 that have played for longer and achieved more in the time at Hearts from the turn of the century. Mickey was still a top top player in Scottish terms when he left though. That's the criteria I was working with. Hence why I had Fuller in there too, despite his stay being short. Hard pushed to fine a player who played for us who was better than either of those two respectively, in their time as Hearts players in the 21st Century. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Gordon Paterson. Webster. Presley. Fyssas. Hartley. Cameron. Aguiar. Skacel. Jankauskas. Bednar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Niemi Paterson Webster Pressley Fyssas Hartley Aguiar Skacel Fuller Pinilla Jankauskas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gav M Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 29 minutes ago, Brighton Jambo said: Pospisil, Janny and Bednar, oh those were that days. I remember the summer of 05 being a belter and those sunny August/September days when we were flying and those three were scoring for fun alongside Rudi and Hartley. Maybe rose tinted glasses but that was as good as I have seen it supporting Hearts. Don't forget Calum Elliot who looked like a fantastic prospect in that team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveins Battalion Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Cruyff Turn said: Niemi Paterson Pressley Webster Fyssas Flogel Hartley Cameron Skacel MDV Velicka Flogel was a strange one,I remember playing brilliantly at Pittodrie but never seemed a 1st pick for JJ,quality player though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacky87 Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 43 minutes ago, Icon of Symmetry said: Mickey was still a top top player in Scottish terms when he left though. That's the criteria I was working with. Hence why I had Fuller in there too, despite his stay being short. Hard pushed to fine a player who played for us who was better than either of those two respectively, in their time as Hearts players in the 21st Century. Flogel and Cameron both played a minimum of 18 months for the club in 21st century then. Some of names listed spent less and certainly played less than either of those also. Fuller being the prime example. That run he made against Motherwell was outstanding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 44 minutes ago, TheStig said: Pospisil is a good shout. Think it was the 06/07 he went through a period of being deadly when coming on as a sub. It's funny, that's how I remember it too but when I checked he only actually scored 4 goals that season. In fact he only scored 12 overall for us, and 6 of them were against Dunfermline! He left us in January '08, scored 2 goals on the last day of that season for his new club who were already relegated, and never scored a top team goal again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Turn Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 7 minutes ago, Leveins Battalion said: Flogel was a strange one,I remember playing brilliantly at Pittodrie but never seemed a 1st pick for JJ,quality player though. First season he certainly wasn’t. Still, couldn’t leave Tam oot. Webster, Pressley, Fyssas, Cameron, Hartley, Skacel, MDV have to be in that team. Then it’s a toss up between Gordon/Niemi, Patterson/Neilson, Flogel/Aguiar/Driver, Velicka/Bednar/Jankauskas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Niemi - Neilson, Zaliukas, Berra, Fyssas - Cameron, Hartley, Aguiar, Skacel - Jankauskas, Bednar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamhammer Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 3 hours ago, ri Alban said: Gordon Neilson Webster Presley Takis Skacel Hartley Fulton McCann Bednar Kyle That midfield 😢 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Rudy T said: Thats fair I suppose. Salvatori would’ve been in every team but he’s was 1999 I’m sure. Still not having Suso mind you. Think I’d go Driver. Yeah I'd have Driver ahead of Suso too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byyy The Light Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Niemi Paterson Webster Pressley Fyssas Aguiar Fulton Hartley Naismith Skacel Jankauskas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gorgie Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 44 minutes ago, Smithee said: It's funny, that's how I remember it too but when I checked he only actually scored 4 goals that season. In fact he only scored 12 overall for us, and 6 of them were against Dunfermline! He left us in January '08, scored 2 goals on the last day of that season for his new club who were already relegated, and never scored a top team goal again. Its amazing/worrying how the mind works. Always had it in my head he scored a fair few for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, TheStig said: Its amazing/worrying how the mind works. Always had it in my head he scored a fair few for us. In 05/06 he scored 8 from 22 appearances which is pretty impressive and probably where we're both getting the fond memories from, but only another 4 in the season and a half before he left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy T Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Icon of Symmetry said: Why? Suso was an extremely good player who could beat a man for fun, often two men at a time, could score goals and got plenty assists. He’s also a cup winning legend who gave absolutely everything for the team every time he stepped in the pitch. He wasn’t really. Some clouded memories of Suso, probably fuelled by the cup final. He was in and out of the team, 50 appearances across 3 seasons and about 6 goals in total. He’d beat a man then do nothing or he’d beat a man and run it out the park. He spent more time arguing with officials, players and corner flags than he did on the pitch...IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 42 minutes ago, Jamhammer said: That midfield 😢 As someone said, I'd take any of those midfielders. Bruno and Julian were brilliant too, in my eyes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted July 16, 2019 Author Share Posted July 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Rudy T said: He wasn’t really. Some clouded memories of Suso, probably fuelled by the cup final. He was in and out of the team, 50 appearances across 3 seasons and about 6 goals in total. He’d beat a man then do nothing or he’d beat a man and run it out the park. He spent more time arguing with officials, players and corner flags than he did on the pitch...IMO. Ah, see that’s where I think your memories are clouded. Suso took part in a training camp in Germany where a few bellend Hearts supporters made their way over and got absolutely wasted. Drunkenly wrote the new winger off as a waiter and all slapped each other on the back about how humorous they were. Suso then played a couple of friendlies back home, against Bolton and Sunderland, and the boy was quite clearly a baller. Both Bolton and Sunderland has to double up on him and he gave their very capable fullbacks a torrid time. Skinned players for fun and was liable to score or assist afterwards. Very underrated player who was disliked by some for reasons other than ability and effort. Some clung on to the words of morons and refused to recognise this, despite his performances time and time again. He then suffered a hernia and that limited his game time and performances including coming back and getting back up to speed again. As for arguing, thank god he cared enough to not like losing. Give me a good player with fire in his belly every day of the week. All IMO of course. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Brighton Jambo Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 In the same way the some on here don't see it in Suso I will confess to never really seeing it in Aguiar. Don't get me wrong he was clearly a talent but if we are all honest he wouldn't have been first choice had Vlad not disliked Brellier so much. Brellier, Hartley, Rudi were the first choice midfield in 2006 with Aguiar an able deputy. He never did nearly enough in the shirt for me to be considered in the same breath as Hartley, Cameron, Rudi, McCann, Fulton, etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamhammer Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 1 hour ago, ri Alban said: As someone said, I'd take any of those midfielders. Bruno and Julian were brilliant too, in my eyes Just realised my all time favourite Hearts midfielder Colin Cameron isn't even in it and I don't know who I'd take out to put him in. Possibly McCann but..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamboross Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Niemi Neilson, Webster, Pressley, Fyssas Kingston, Hartley, Cameron, Skacel Pinilla, Jankauskas Kingston and Pinilla based on the ability we knew they had but just never saw enough of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheetah Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Icon of Symmetry said: Suso took part in a training camp in Germany where a few bellend Hearts supporters made their way over and got absolutely wasted. Drunkenly wrote the new winger off as a waiter and all slapped each other on the back about how humorous they were. What the hell is going on here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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