Mr Elwood P Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 14 minutes ago, rick witter said: When was the last time we scored 3 goals at home in a game??? Cant spell ‘rick witter’ without ‘twit’. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks said no Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 12 minutes ago, rick witter said: That bench shows you how bad our squad really is!! Oh give it a rest will you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher75 Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Zlamal Smith Souttar Berra Hickey Halkett Clare Cochrane Mulraney Washington Uche Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturalOrder74 Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 A lot of pressure on us getting a decent result from this game, Really going to kick off if we lose this game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Kintner Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Cruickshank for Scotland said: I think we will lose......but not to worry as seemingly it’s just a glorified pre-season game according to one of our luminaries on here. 😉 Three weeks before our first league match in 2014/15 (where we romped the Championship) we lost 3-0 to Dundee. Two weeks before our first league match in 2011/12 (where we ended up winning the Cup) we lost 2-1 to Cowdenbeath. Two weeks before our first league match in 2005/06 (where we won the cup and finished 2nd) we drew 0-0 with Berwick Rangers. Onw week before our first league match in 1997/98 (where we won the cup and finished 3rd) we lost 2-1 to Grimsby. Forgive me if I don’t pish my breeks at the thought of losing to Dundee Utd three weeks before the league even kicks off 👍🏻 Edited July 10, 2019 by To Be Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Kintner Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, NaturalOrder74 said: A lot of pressure on us getting a decent result from this game, Really going to kick off if we lose this game No pressure at all in my mind and, going by his quotes, in the mind of Levein either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Hastings Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 2 hours ago, SteauaNeedarest said: C’mon now. The last game in the league was two reserve teams battling it out so your point is completely based on the cup final. Glorious failure which has saved Levein because if we’d been pumped 4-0 you can bet the mood wouldn’t be as jovial as it is now from certain quarters. Think you may have missed my initial post on this. My only point was that when Levein changed to the 4-3-3 formation our performances improved, as seen by our performance in the final, which glorious failure or not was an improvement. Then the folk that replied to it used it as an opportunity to dredge up Levein et al’s various shortcomings last season. Last season is finished and the first competitive action of this season is about to start, I’m going into it with a positive outlook and choosing not to wallow in any negativity from last season, otherwise what is the point? We’ve still to get a look at our new signings and will hopefully get a couple more in before the season starts yet folk are wanting to write us off before a ball is kicked in earnest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagger Is Back Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Lots to ponder United have a decent squad with good experience and could cause us problems up front. We're at home although not at full strength. It's early in the season for both teams. Personally I want to see us win every game. For years I've wanted us to adopt an OF mentality on/off the park in that anything other than a win is unacceptable. I don't really get some comments on here 'accepting' the possibility of a defeat. Not a winners attitude in my book regardless of how much folks want to dress it up with stats/excuses I think it will be a tight game but expect goals and us to nick it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 A defeat or a draw in real terms would be a setback but not a catastrophe. It's the way we play that really matters. If it's a jittery, uninspiring performance, that will be bitterly disappointing. Won't happen though. 3-0 Hearts, possibly 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointon Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 A must win game already we have a tough first round of fixtures in the league and Levein is losing the patience of the fans could get toxic early in the season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 14 hours ago, rick witter said: The truth being repeated. I agree it’s the same old shite and wish it would change but it never will with Levein in charge. Every thread you are repeating the same shit, regardless of the topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finlay James Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 30 minutes ago, pointon said: A must win game already we have a tough first round of fixtures in the league and Levein is losing the patience of the fans could get toxic early in the season That would be the case for all clubs and managers, it's not exclusive to Hearts. I think things will be more interesting across the city though as Hibs look like they're in for a much bumpier ride than we are. Could get more toxic than normal at Easter road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4forDevries Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 Bit surprised a few people have not got Halkett in to play in Haring's role. I'd go for Zlamal Smith Soutter Berra Hickey Zonatta Bozanic Halkett Mulaney Washington Keena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Kintner Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 48 minutes ago, pointon said: A must win game already we have a tough first round of fixtures in the league and Levein is losing the patience of the fans could get toxic early in the season It’s not must-win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveins Battalion Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, To Be Frank said: It’s not must-win. League cup at home against a championship team,its a must win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bistokid Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 20 minutes ago, To Be Frank said: It’s not must-win. The League Cup Group stages has already cost a failing Hearts Manager his job... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Kintner Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 16 minutes ago, Leveins Battalion said: League cup at home against a championship team,its a must win. No, that makes it a should-win. Just now, bistokid said: The League Cup Group stages has already cost a failing Hearts Manager his job... Big difference between where we were two years and where we are today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, To Be Frank said: Big difference between where we were two years and where we are today. Results-wise, not that much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernie Eskilsson Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 It’s time to stop making excuses for poor results. We need to establish a winning mentality and get into the habit of winning games, every game, so that losing becomes the exception and only happens against the better teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorgieFifeLife Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 A lot of people seem to be saying it is early to judge and a defeat wouldn't be bad. We don't win nearly enough silverware to take a League Cup game lightly. The club have known for some time that this is when our first competitive fixture will be so it would not be justified to make excuses if we don't win this game. The pressure starts here and we need to see signs of progress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 15 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said: Results-wise, not that much. There actually is a big difference, two years ago we had just finished 3rd with 65 points. We've now finished 6th two years in a row with 46 and 49 points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mre Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, Longshanks said: There actually is a big difference, two years ago we had just finished 3rd with 65 points. We've now finished 6th two years in a row with 46 and 49 points. Oooft! 😩 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 8 minutes ago, Longshanks said: There actually is a big difference, two years ago we had just finished 3rd with 65 points. We've now finished 6th two years in a row with 46 and 49 points. Cant argue with that, some will though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 Actually I missed a 5th place season out, oops Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAndy Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 26 minutes ago, Longshanks said: There actually is a big difference, two years ago we had just finished 3rd with 65 points. We've now finished 6th two years in a row with 46 and 49 points. Aye and after finishing 3rd the 'fans' were screaming for the managers head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 Is everyone registered properly? Good starting point. Zlamal Smith Souttar Berra Burns Bozanic Clare Edwards Washington Ikpeazu Mulraney About best we can throw out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott herbertson Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Sir Gio said: Is everyone registered properly? Good starting point. Zlamal Smith Souttar Berra Burns Bozanic Clare Edwards Washington Ikpeazu Mulraney About best we can throw out I'd be surprised if he doesn't have Soutar, Smith or Halkett in front of a back 4 - with Ewards missing out from your team. Also think he may prefer Hickey to Burns Edited July 11, 2019 by scott herbertson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, Sir Gio said: Is everyone registered properly? Good starting point. Zlamal Smith Souttar Berra Burns Bozanic Clare Edwards Washington Ikpeazu Mulraney About best we can throw out I like Edwards, should have had more games last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Lynam Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 1 hour ago, To Be Frank said: It’s not must-win. Come on Frank. It’s definitely a must win game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Sausage Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 Not really one for the tears, snotters and histrionics like some others on the thread but a loss tomorrow puts Levein massively on the back foot. Results havent been great, but a majority of fans seem to be onside pending a successful start to our season. The season starts tomorrow and a loss would, while not terminal, certainly remove any leniency for a less than perfect start to the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soapy Soutar Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 Hearts will win at ease Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clerry Jambo Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 49 minutes ago, Ernie Eskilsson said: It’s time to stop making excuses for poor results. We need to establish a winning mentality and get into the habit of winning games, every game, so that losing becomes the exception and only happens against the better teams. Correct but you can see the losing mentality has reached jkb also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Kintner Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Nookie Bear said: Results-wise, not that much. In terms of general feeling around the club and fans’ patience, it’s nowhere near. 44 minutes ago, Longshanks said: There actually is a big difference, two years ago we had just finished 3rd with 65 points. We've now finished 6th two years in a row with 46 and 49 points. 35 minutes ago, Harry Potter said: Cant argue with that, some will though. I’ll argue with it in that we hadn’t just finished 3rd. We had finished 5th under Cathro and the vast majority of fans wanted him gone during the summer. 8 minutes ago, Des Lynam said: Come on Frank. It’s definitely a must win game. Are we out if we draw or lose? Will the manager lose his job if we draw or lose? I expect us to win and think we will win but I’m totally aware we are still only halfway through our preparations for the start of the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 20 minutes ago, Des Lynam said: Come on Frank. It’s definitely a must win game. A draw and a win on penalties, is likely have the exact same ramifications for the group, as winning in 90 minutes. Losing wouldn't be good, although it would be an opportunity to further illustrate how intellectually bankrupt team plane hire actually are! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 34 minutes ago, Sir Gio said: Is everyone registered properly? Good starting point. Zlamal Smith Souttar Berra Burns Bozanic Clare Edwards Washington Ikpeazu Mulraney About best we can throw out Why Burns ahead of Hickey? Going by media reports it seems Zanatta and McDonald might get some game time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Lynam Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 15 minutes ago, To Be Frank said: Are we out if we draw or lose? Will the manager lose his job if we draw or lose? I expect us to win and think we will win but I’m totally aware we are still only halfway through our preparations for the start of the league. No we wouldn’t be but you know that. We need a strong start after the disappointing end to the season. We can’t have another season of ready made excuses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTS1874 Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 I’m looking forward to our first competitive game and fully expect a win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericb Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 Think CL will play 5-4-1 Zlamal Smith Souttar Berra Halkett Hickey Mulraney Clare Irvine Bozanic Uche Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bistokid Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 1 hour ago, To Be Frank said: No, that makes it a should-win. Big difference between where we were two years and where we are today. From January this year our League form reads: W3 D3 L11. We finished 6th. Cathro from January form reads: W4 D3 L10. We finished 5th. From KB 50% wanted Levein gone. Anecdotally I'd say its probably higher. Not looking to open the debate up but think you are underplaying the ramifications if we were to lose or even draw with a poor performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabienleclerq Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 21 hours ago, Portable Badger said: Yep. I get the sense Berra will be back-up this season as long as Souttar isn't sold Behave Ffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc_liam06 Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 Folk going on about form. Here's our current form: Played 0 Won 0 Lost 0 Drawn 0 It's a new season ffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 We've lost Djoum. Lee, Haring and Walker are all injured? Naismith isn't our player Tbh, I'm not too confident about this. Our midfield is in a bad way. I think our team will look different come August, but atm it could actually be weaker than last season. Utd will fancy this. At home tho, so I'll predict a narrow home win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Kintner Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 31 minutes ago, Des Lynam said: No we wouldn’t be but you know that. We need a strong start after the disappointing end to the season. We can’t have another season of ready made excuses. We need a strong start to the league season. As long as we qualify from the league cup group I don’t really care how it happens tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Kintner Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 21 minutes ago, bistokid said: From January this year our League form reads: W3 D3 L11. We finished 6th. Cathro from January form reads: W4 D3 L10. We finished 5th. From KB 50% wanted Levein gone. Anecdotally I'd say its probably higher. Not looking to open the debate up but think you are underplaying the ramifications if we were to lose or even draw with a poor performance. Pretty much 100% wanted Cathro gone and we hadn’t just played in a cup final Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Kintner Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, Olly Lee's left boot said: We've lost Djoum. Lee, Haring and Walker are all injured? Naismith isn't our player Tbh, I'm not too confident about this. Our midfield is in a bad way. I think our team will look different come August, but atm it could actually be weaker than last season. Utd will fancy this. At home tho, so I'll predict a narrow home win. Bozanic and Clare are good enough against Dundee Utd. The most important thing is that we have much better options further forward in Washingston, Uche, Mulraney, Keena and Zanatta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts1975 Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 33 minutes ago, Des Lynam said: No we wouldn’t be but you know that. We need a strong start after the disappointing end to the season. We can’t have another season of ready made excuses. Spot on The fact that excuses are already being thrown about, and we haven’t even started the season yet, tells its own story this acceptance of mediocrity stinks - we are a big club and we should expect a level of success and performance to align with our overall status Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambopilms Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 6 minutes ago, Hearts1975 said: Spot on The fact that excuses are already being thrown about, and we haven’t even started the season yet, tells its own story this acceptance of mediocrity stinks - we are a big club and we should expect a level of success and performance to align with our overall status There it is. FFS. Folk moaning on and on about how shit we are before we have kicked a ball yet tells a story Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 28 minutes ago, To Be Frank said: Bozanic and Clare are good enough against Dundee Utd. The most important thing is that we have much better options further forward in Washingston, Uche, Mulraney, Keena and Zanatta Yeah, We are better up front and we should have enough, but imo it won't be comfortable and Utd will fancy it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jodami Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 Just a win please Hearts. If we lose the game I can see a panic buy following it. The fact it's the last year of Levein's contract may well dictate that kind of reaction. Looking for serene progress to the knockout stages to get us into August past the English transfer deadline before we consider bringing in a central midfielder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 17 minutes ago, jambopilms said: There it is. FFS. Folk moaning on and on about how shit we are before we have kicked a ball yet tells a story If you're not moaning you're just accepting medecority, Ken like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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