maroonlegions Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Oil tanker captain disputes part of US account of attack "The captain of one of the oil tankers attacked in the Gulf of Oman on Thursday disputed part of the United States' account of the attack on Friday." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 23 minutes ago, maroonlegions said: Oil tanker captain disputes part of US account of attack "The captain of one of the oil tankers attacked in the Gulf of Oman on Thursday disputed part of the United States' account of the attack on Friday." Navy Seals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Zola Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 false flag attack. they do it all the time, gives them a reason to attack. terrorists Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superjack Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 As I'm getting older I'm getting more cynical. Is this why I'm thinking that it wouldn't surprise me if America actually instigated this attack to try and engineer a reason to start a war? Maybe I'm over thinking this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 So John Bolton has been agitating for war with Iran every since the Islamic Revolution. He finally gets the big job that may let him do it. Iran chooses this moment to attack oil tankers in the gulf. Ok then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 9 minutes ago, Cade said: So John Bolton has been agitating for war with Iran every since the Islamic Revolution. He finally gets the big job that may let him do it. Iran chooses this moment to attack oil tankers in the gulf. Ok then. Makes perfect sense Doesnt matter Really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 Deffo Iran that did this. Absolutely no doubt. Honest! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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maroonlegions Posted June 16, 2019 Author Share Posted June 16, 2019 10 hours ago, superjack said: As I'm getting older I'm getting more cynical. Is this why I'm thinking that it wouldn't surprise me if America actually instigated this attack to try and engineer a reason to start a war? Maybe I'm over thinking this. Journalists and whistleblowers will go to jail under new national security laws | Paul Farrell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 Iran invites Japan to help broker peace. Blows up one of Japans tankers. Assad invited chemical weapon inspectors. And launches a chemical weapon attack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, jake said: Iran invites Japan to help broker peace. Blows up one of Japans tankers. Assad invited chemical weapon inspectors. And launches a chemical weapon attack. Not for the first time, I totally agree with you. And there's a woman rotten in an Iranian jail because of Boris Johnson's big mooth. Plus Jeremy Hunt is attacking Jeremy Corbyn for not believing the BS of DT. Edited June 16, 2019 by ri Alban Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 10 hours ago, superjack said: As I'm getting older I'm getting more cynical. Is this why I'm thinking that it wouldn't surprise me if America actually instigated this attack to try and engineer a reason to start a war? Maybe I'm over thinking this. You’re not over thinking it as it’s quite possible that scenario. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 The emperor of Japan visits the leader of Iran for peace talks and trade possibilities, and Iran blow up an oil tanker heading to Japan, and people are expected to believe this? Just America being scummy America again I'm afraid. This is a good read https://sputniknews.com/columnists/201906151075885485-oil-tanker-attacks-us-fingerprints/?fbclid=IwAR36sg_Tj8jzAlr5p0f1os8VsH-yoa31s-GqaL2JUnVJUKtBOg1dQ04mnDI&utm_source=https://l.facebook.com/&utm_medium=short_url&utm_content=mEyN&utm_campaign=URL_shortening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 11 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said: You’re not over thinking it as it’s quite possible that scenario. We know the score, these days and don't believe it so easily, anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Trapper John McIntyre Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 If you want to know the essence of feckwittery, suffer to read through this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jb102 Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 If it had sunk and gone down with all hands we would be in a war by now. This has all the hallmarks of the Gulf of Tonkin. I wonder if the False Flag department at the Pentagon just pulled out the USS Maddox file and said "this'll do". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 11 minutes ago, maroonlegions said: The US has quite a fleet of these drones. Nuclear capabilities. Wonder how long before we see a nuclear strike used in false flag operation. Would they whoever they are ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 9 minutes ago, Trapper John McIntyre said: If you want to know the essence of feckwittery, suffer to read through this thread. 2 hours ago, ri Alban said: We know the score, these days and don't believe it so easily, anymore. You sure about that Alban Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 (edited) 21 minutes ago, jake said: You sure about that Alban Damn sure! Jacobie. Apart fae Tripper. Edited June 16, 2019 by ri Alban Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 31 minutes ago, Trapper John McIntyre said: If you want to know the essence of feckwittery, suffer to read through this thread. The SNP have broken you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 22 minutes ago, ri Alban said: The SNP have broken you. It had to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 Just now, The Real Maroonblood said: It had to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PnG Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 Mines blowing holes in the side of ships above the water level. I wonder if any other false flag attacks have been used to instigate wars in the middle east. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 29 minutes ago, PnG said: Mines blowing holes in the side of ships above the water level. I wonder if any other false flag attacks have been used to instigate wars in the middle east. US drone attack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor jambo Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 Does anyone really, really think that the USA wants to go to war with Iran? What for? it does not need their oil, nor their gas- and they don't export anything else really. Like an actual boots-on-ground war in the middle east with Iran.......... I just don't buy it at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coconut doug Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 1 hour ago, doctor jambo said: Does anyone really, really think that the USA wants to go to war with Iran? What for? it does not need their oil, nor their gas- and they don't export anything else really. Like an actual boots-on-ground war in the middle east with Iran.......... I just don't buy it at all You don't think that they and their regional allies have strategic/military aspirations. Have you considered why the USA has imposed sanctions on Iran? Do you think all the threatening of Iran they have done over the last few years might be a clue as to their attitude toward Iran. Could it be that they are smarting after their military defeat in the Syrian proxy war. They are due a war anyway - this president hasn't started one and he needs to think about his re-election. If the USA will go to war with Iraq and Syria on false prospectuses then why not Iran? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphonseCapone Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 The USA wouldn't have a great time in a war against Iran fought over there. For a super power they can't fight. Fancy toys but that's about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 50 minutes ago, AlphonseCapone said: The USA wouldn't have a great time in a war against Iran fought over there. For a super power they can't fight. Fancy toys but that's about it. Can’t fight. Not according to their war movies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coconut doug Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 1 hour ago, AlphonseCapone said: The USA wouldn't have a great time in a war against Iran fought over there. For a super power they can't fight. Fancy toys but that's about it. Some of the toys are not that good either. the F35 has multiple problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphonseCapone Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 42 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said: Can’t fight. Not according to their war movies. I'm obviously discounting the hundred odd times they've saved the entire world Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Z Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 1 minute ago, AlphonseCapone said: I'm obviously discounting the hundred odd times they've saved the entire world Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor jambo Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 1 hour ago, AlphonseCapone said: The USA wouldn't have a great time in a war against Iran fought over there. For a super power they can't fight. Fancy toys but that's about it. any war many miles from home, in a country with an armed populace is difficult. Regardless of why you are there, you are seen as a hostile invading force, and when kids start to die, and power/food/medicine starts to run out so does any good will. Especially in a country which, despite its despotic rulers is pretty safe for its population- any invaders will inevitably make the lot of the populace worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphonseCapone Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 42 minutes ago, doctor jambo said: any war many miles from home, in a country with an armed populace is difficult. Regardless of why you are there, you are seen as a hostile invading force, and when kids start to die, and power/food/medicine starts to run out so does any good will. Especially in a country which, despite its despotic rulers is pretty safe for its population- any invaders will inevitably make the lot of the populace worse. Indeed. The other aspect to this is what the Russians would do. Some more fuel to the fire here; BBC News - Iran nuclear deal: Enriched uranium limit will be breached on 27 Junehttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-48661843 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 1 hour ago, doctor jambo said: any war many miles from home, in a country with an armed populace is difficult. Regardless of why you are there, you are seen as a hostile invading force, and when kids start to die, and power/food/medicine starts to run out so does any good will. Especially in a country which, despite its despotic rulers is pretty safe for its population- any invaders will inevitably make the lot of the populace worse. Oil price is a tad low for Saudi and the US. A wee war with the Persians would double the price. Scotland would be loaded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor jambo Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 18 minutes ago, ri Alban said: Oil price is a tad low for Saudi and the US. A wee war with the Persians would double the price. Scotland would be loaded. This is not really true- OPEC could manipulate the price without any need for that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, doctor jambo said: This is not really true- OPEC could manipulate the price without any need for that I'm a bit pissed off with this, I've family over there. (Armed forces) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor jambo Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 7 minutes ago, ri Alban said: I'm a bit pissed off with this, I've family over there. (Armed forces) With the SNP threatening Ireland for fishing off Rockall, and your mini force over there is this the start of a new Scottish Empire? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, doctor jambo said: With the SNP threatening Ireland for fishing off Rockall, and your mini force over there is this the start of a new Scottish Empire? No, Royal Navy special forces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridge of Djoum Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 Thread doesn't have enough memes from legions yet. and where's the other boy. Nibbles? Disappointing so far, not enough mental. 2/10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 8 minutes ago, Bridge of Djoum said: Thread doesn't have enough memes from legions yet. and where's the other boy. Nibbles? Disappointing so far, not enough mental. 2/10. Head/Nail/Interface!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PnG Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 12 hours ago, doctor jambo said: Does anyone really, really think that the USA wants to go to war with Iran? What for? it does not need their oil, nor their gas- and they don't export anything else really. Like an actual boots-on-ground war in the middle east with Iran.......... I just don't buy it at all Trump will do whatever Netanhayu tells him to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridge of Djoum Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Dawnrazor said: Head/Nail/Interface!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 15 hours ago, ri Alban said: No, Royal Navy special forces. That will be the SBS then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 50 minutes ago, John Findlay said: That will be the SBS then. Stationed at Poole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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