Rudy T Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 Be fine when we get all our best players back....oh wait? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 Well that was a win but we are still honking at times or most of the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuel Camazzola Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 24k empty seats. Wrong pricing for the wrong venue again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmo Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 2-1 v Holiday Inn. It's a start. As must Armstrong and Burke next match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
132goals1958 Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 Non plussed is how I would sum that up, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 Just realised that the boy at trackside who looks like a henchman in a shite low budget comedy from the late 80s was in fact the Cyprus manager ?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tian447 Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 Robertson's goal was cracking. The rest of the game: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portable Badger Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 11 minutes ago, Gashauskis9 said: Banjo Boy Incestiesta Deli Aldi The nicknames for this boy are endless ?. ???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 10 minutes ago, tian447 said: You been watching a different game than me? The entire game has been shite! Regardless of the score!! Same game, it has been poor to watch, just like watching a Levein team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 Just now, Samuel Camazzola said: 24k empty seats. Wrong pricing for the wrong venue again. I posted earlier on the thread. Someone said it was £30 a ticket and I never actually believed them, so checked. Every game is £30. Even San Marino. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 Think a few played themselves out of Clarke's plans for the next 11 in that match Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homme Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 (edited) That was a bit dull. Robertson belter then loses his man for their goal. Fraser MOTM though. The boy is superb. Edited June 8, 2019 by Homme Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturalOrder74 Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 Fair enough he got the win, brutal football though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Sausage Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 Would McLeish have fared any worse there? Clarke seemed to try and replicate his Killie tactic of sitting back and breaking forward - you’d think Cyprus at home would make that a bit of a different task. Getting the ball wide and pinging hopeful crosses in to Brophy was absolutely pointless. A wondergoal by our best player and a massive slice of luck for Burke gets us past Cyprus. At home. ****ing hell. Le plus ca change... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boag1874 Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 A wins a win, it wasn’t pretty but it’s what we needed. Convinced we’re in safe hands and once he’s had a bit more time in charge we’ll see the benefits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gedster Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 Performances like that will have us playing home games in an almost empty stadium Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homme Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, Captain Sausage said: Would McLeish have fared any worse there? Clarke seemed to try and replicate his Killie tactic of sitting back and breaking forward - you’d think Cyprus at home would make that a bit of a different task. Getting the ball wide and pinging hopeful crosses in to Brophy was absolutely pointless. A wondergoal by our best player and a massive slice of luck for Burke gets us past Cyprus. At home. ****ing hell. Le plus ca change... Getting rid of McLeish was absolutely the right thing to do. Clarke appointed too recently to judge him on tonight IMO. That said, things must improve or we are staying home next year again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossco Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 11 minutes ago, Jambof3tornado said: I genuinely would avoid picking forrest or mcginn or mcgregor. Offered the square root of hee haw tonight. I agree they've done the square root of hee haw, although what I would say is that every time Forrest has had the ball they've completely outnumbered him and snuffed his threat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, Taffin said: Think a few played themselves out of Clarke's plans for the next 11 in that match I hope so. Midfield setup didnt work and if soapy cant get in ahead of those two tonight he may as well hang his boots up!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, Captain Sausage said: Would McLeish have fared any worse there? Clarke seemed to try and replicate his Killie tactic of sitting back and breaking forward - you’d think Cyprus at home would make that a bit of a different task. Getting the ball wide and pinging hopeful crosses in to Brophy was absolutely pointless. A wondergoal by our best player and a massive slice of luck for Burke gets us past Cyprus. At home. ****ing hell. Le plus ca change... Give the guy a chance he's hardly had time to do anything with the players yet. It takes a bit of time to get the message over about how he wants them to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 Just now, Rossco said: I agree they've done the square root of hee haw, although what I would say is that every time Forrest has had the ball they've completely outnumbered him and snuffed his threat. Only because he dwells on the ball, so slow to release it at times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 Brophy nowhere near good enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamboelite Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 People having a dig at Clarke he’s been in the door 5mins give him a chance ffs !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 Just now, Jamboelite said: People having a dig at Clarke he’s been in the door 5mins give him a chance ffs !! Exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuel Camazzola Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 8 minutes ago, Lovecraft said: I posted earlier on the thread. Someone said it was £30 a ticket and I never actually believed them, so checked. Every game is £30. Even San Marino. It's ridiculous. If it wasn't a Saturday in June, you could strip 10k off the attendance. It's not difficult to come up with sensible pricing which could fill the place. Surely everyone would rather play in a full 20k stadium than this shell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Section Q Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 13 minutes ago, Lovecraft said: A win is a win Agree 100%. I thought Soapy would've been a good though choice though , walking the ball out and picking a pass. Unimpressive defence and thankfully the post came to our rescue. But as you said. A win is a win ....! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 20 minutes ago, Gashauskis9 said: Shorter when he jumps. He’s a useless *******. A half fit Berra would have been better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossco Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, Samuel Camazzola said: It's ridiculous. If it wasn't a Saturday in June, you could strip 10k off the attendance. It's not difficult to come up with sensible pricing which could fill the place. Surely everyone would rather play in a full 20k stadium than this shell. Unbelievable. £15 adults £10 kids and you probably sell out that place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portobellojambo1 Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 10 minutes ago, Taffin said: Think a few played themselves out of Clarke's plans for the next 11 in that match Did they though, or was it more an indication of the quality of players available to Steve Clarke, in fact whoever had been appointed as the new manager. At club level if you have players who aren't up to requirements you have the option of replacing them with players of a different nationality, for example. The Scotland manager doesn't have that option and I'm not sure how many players who weren't picked for the squad were available and of a better standard. I think the game was more a reflection of where Scottish football stands overall in the scheme of things. In saying that football is about winning, and he achieved that tonight, has something to work on in relation to that, but I don't really expect the team to turn into something wornderful because McLeish has been replaced. There are a few players who have been playing well for their clubs, but generally in teams with better quality players around them. Getting them to function at the same level in international football might not be an easy task. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantjambo Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 10 minutes ago, Jambof3tornado said: Brophy nowhere near good enough. He’s had a good season with Killie and probably deserved a shot. I agree though, nowhere near the level required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, portobellojambo1 said: Did they though, or was it more an indication of the quality of players available to Steve Clarke, in fact whoever had been appointed as the new manager. At club level if you have players who aren't up to requirements you have the option of replacing them with players of a different nationality, for example. The Scotland manager doesn't have that option and I'm not sure how many players who weren't picked for the squad were available and of a better standard. I think the game was more a reflection of where Scottish football stands overall in the scheme of things. In saying that football is about winning, and he achieved that tonight, has something to work on in relation to that, but I don't really expect the team to turn into something wornderful because McLeish has been replaced. There are a few players who have been playing well for their clubs, but generally in teams with better quality players around them. Getting them to function at the same level in international football might not be an easy task. I wouldn't be surprised to see Burke, Armstrong and McTominay all come in for the next game. He's got options there and the players they replaced were very, very poor Edited June 8, 2019 by Taffin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Taffin said: Think a few played themselves out of Clarke's plans for the next 11 in that match Good. Hopefully Souttar in for Mulgrew and McLean, McGregor and Brophy out. I sympathise with Clarke's lack of options up front. Brophy was worth a shot, but Armstrong and McTominay should bring much more to the team than most of the midfield he picked. It baffles me that McTominay doesn't get picked for Scotland. Edited June 8, 2019 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 For those of us old enough to remember a competitive game against Cyprus that led to a major tournament qualification. 2.1 at Hampden Leighton James, Gough Richard, Malpas Maurice, Aitken Robert "Roy"(c), McLeish Alexander, McPherson David, Nevin Patrick, McStay Paul, Johnston Maurice, McCoist Allister, Durie Gordon It's in the stars via the Nations League. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 28 minutes ago, Gambo said: Same game, it has been poor to watch, just like watching a Levein team. Take a night off for once. Only you could have a dig at the Hearts manager after watching Scotland play, pathetic doesn't cover it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 You do have to give Clarke credit and respect for him trusting Brophy. He may have just had a bad game compared to usual. I can't say I have ever really noticed him standing out though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorillajam Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 Brophy worked hard but he's not good enough at this level. McLean, McKenna and McGinn were ok - not as bad as some folk are making out. I agree that Armstrong should be picked for the next match. Fraser was head and shoulders above the rest - should be playing for a top 4 EPL side. Fantastic strike from Robertson however he was sleeping for their goal - he was marking his man. I'm not overly impressed by Burke but well done for scoring the winner. Not a great performance however a wins a win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuel Camazzola Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 11 minutes ago, Lovecraft said: You do have to give Clarke credit and respect for him trusting Brophy. He may have just had a bad game compared to usual. I can't say I have ever really noticed him standing out though. Wouldn't say he had a bad game. Just had little to work with to become effective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diadora Van Basten Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 Brophy with 12 goals should not be starting for Scotland. McCoist would have been lapping up having Fraser and Forrest sticking the ball in the box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuel Camazzola Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 6 minutes ago, Gorillajam said: Brophy worked hard but he's not good enough at this level. McLean, McKenna and McGinn were ok - not as bad as some folk are making out. I agree that Armstrong should be picked for the next match. Fraser was head and shoulders above the rest - should be playing for a top 4 EPL side. Fantastic strike from Robertson however he was sleeping for their goal - he was marking his man. I'm not overly impressed by Burke but well done for scoring the winner. Not a great performance however a wins a win. McGinn made two huge errors which contributed to Cyprus' best chances before their goal. McLean and McKenna were fine and Mulgrew was comfortable. Fraser was our top performer and hopefully he'll be fine for Tuesday. He looked puggled after taking a couple of challenges in injury time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 16 minutes ago, Gorillajam said: Brophy worked hard but he's not good enough at this level. McLean, McKenna and McGinn were ok - not as bad as some folk are making out. I agree that Armstrong should be picked for the next match. Fraser was head and shoulders above the rest - should be playing for a top 4 EPL side. Fantastic strike from Robertson however he was sleeping for their goal - he was marking his man. I'm not overly impressed by Burke but well done for scoring the winner. Not a great performance however a wins a win. Mcginn was shite mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphonseCapone Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 Hopefully the usual sort of roasters keep their mouths shut for a while and let Clarke have a chance to work on the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsalldothebeattie Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 Not going to slate too much we got the win but a fairly poor performance but hopefully that comes with the more games Clarke is in charge of. At the minute it’s about the results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Samuel Camazzola said: McGinn made two huge errors which contributed to Cyprus' best chances before their goal. McLean and McKenna were fine and Mulgrew was comfortable. Fraser was our top performer and hopefully he'll be fine for Tuesday. He looked puggled after taking a couple of challenges in injury time. Getting the best out of McGinn should be one of Clarke's priorities. He's been a revelation at Villa but has made several very bad and costly or nearly costly mistakes for Scotland. Job 1 for Clarke: Settle on a strike force or find a system to overcome not having decent strikers, something Levein couldn't do for us last season - big test of Clarke's ability. If ONeil can do that at Ni we can. Job 2: Find a solid centre back partnership and stick with it Job 3: Play to the qualities Robertson, Fraser, McTominay and McGinn show at their clubs. Basically build the team around the only real top class talent we have. Job 4: Put a bit more trust in youngsters than previous Scotland managers, eg If someone like Cochrane emerges as a consistent performer for us, stick him in. Edited June 8, 2019 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 It wasn't the greatest performance but its the start a new era and quickly replying after losing a goal is something that feels like it hasn't happened in a long time. I think the context of this match needs to be taken into account before Clarke and the players are too harshly criticised. Clarke had a short time between being appointed, announcing his first squad and preparing for this game (less than 3 weeks between being announced and playing this game.) Some players who he could pick and have picked have not played for a month (McLean and Fleck for example.) This is being played at the end of the season where players are often quite tired and some have played a crazy amount of games, Robertson has played 55 compeitive games this season, McGinn has played 50, James Forrest has played 62 games. While we have some of our best players, there is a weakness in certain areas with injuries playing a part. This could have been a massive banana skin, so in the end its 3 points and what we need. Keep it respectable against Belgium and I think Scotland will look a lot better come the next round of qualifying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 Cyprus should have won that game. Perhaps thought Scotland were better than they are. But I saw positives. In particular that there was always someone avaliable to take a pass. Strange all the balls into box early when we had no one to win the ball though maybe they thought Cyprus were weak there. At least they changed it. A bit lucky but a good win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatever Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 The job will finish Clarke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudi5kaceldream1ng Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 I’ve already said this but I seriously think we should try and bring Burke in up front with Uche. He is by no means the finished article but he’s an absolute tank and that leap for the goal from a standing start showed the lads athleticism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 There was a guy called Anya or something like that who looked really good one time I saw him playing for Scotland. Presume he's just faded out the picture. If I was Clarke I'd bring the thumb Tierney, Naismith, Berra Hickey and Souttar in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferryjambo99 Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 Thank goodness we got the win. McKenna is poor, souttar should start ahead of him. Can't see brophy making it at this level. Robertson and Fraser looked very dangerous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FJT Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 11 minutes ago, AlphonseCapone said: Hopefully the usual sort of roasters keep their mouths shut for a while and let Clarke have a chance to work on the team. 10 minutes ago, letsalldothebeattie said: Not going to slate too much we got the win but a fairly poor performance but hopefully that comes with the more games Clarke is in charge of. At the minute it’s about the results. Agree. All too often it feels like Scotland have been on the receiving end of late goals, at least we managed to grab the win at the death for once. Early days and the crucial win is what we got. Hopefully kick on from here. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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