McCrae Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 2 hours ago, Inch Hearts said: Bad loss if so imo, I rate him very highly but he’s not getting much of a look in behind an exceptional Michael Smith. Does he not have problems with his knee that limit the number of games he can play in a season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 3 hours ago, cosanostra said: I like Brandon better. Totally agree, Brandon has huge potential. Godinho is just unlucky, in the past he would probably be a regular for years (steady player, good crosser of the ball) but right now strangely we are very good for right backs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Parmesan Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 Genuine question for those who like Brandon: Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAlim Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 When Brandon first broke through I thought he looked class but I think he'd be better suited to right mid, wouldn't see any harm in keeping Godhino around as I doubt he's expensive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qferryjam Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 44 minutes ago, iantjambo said: Isn’t that the risk when any youngster is allowed to leave? When was the last time we were left kicking ourselves at a youngster leaving and him going onto better things? Yep totally agree with you was more an observation than any real backing of the lad but it’s a rare sight having everyone in agreement for 20 something posts , I think in most cases it’s the players who are left kicking themselves for either moving too early ,or not taking their chance when it’s in front of them , in his case injury robbed him of a fair chunk of time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimosavi Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 9 minutes ago, Gene Parmesan said: Genuine question for those who like Brandon: Why? His discipline is a worry for me and reckless challenges. Get that side of him sorted and he may come good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 Think Godinho is decent enough despite his injury issues. If he is happy to play second fiddle to Smith I'd keep him. He's much better than Brandon who just won't cut it at this level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Parmesan Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 1 minute ago, kimosavi said: His discipline is a worry for me and reckless challenges. Get that side of him sorted and he may come good I'd add to those worries - can't pass, can't cross, and is suspect in defence (evidence - being repeatedly tortured by Aberdeen's left back last month). There seems a physical upside to him; he's fairly fast and strong, and his touch and close control/skill is decent enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costanza Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 18 minutes ago, BigAlim said: When Brandon first broke through I thought he looked class but I think he'd be better suited to right mid, wouldn't see any harm in keeping Godhino around as I doubt he's expensive I agree re. Brandon as, I actually thought he was a midfielder covering at fullback. Bit disappointed to read that Zanatta might be let go as well as we are not greatly stocked with wide players and think there's a player in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 11 minutes ago, kimosavi said: His discipline is a worry for me and reckless challenges. Get that side of him sorted and he may come good I agree but the worry is that most of his discipline problems stem from automatic reaction and that usually abates with maturity - which could take some time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jocam2325 Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 31 minutes ago, Gene Parmesan said: Genuine question for those who like Brandon: Why? Brandon looked great when he came in at first. Now he looks to have regressed. I am happy that any player leaves the club if we feel we have better to come in or come through the ranks. I wouldn't imagine Godinho or Brandon would be difficult to improve on. Anyway, best of luck to Godinho when he moves. Also, Zanatta, don't kmow what people see in him. Falkirk type player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 47 minutes ago, Gene Parmesan said: Genuine question for those who like Brandon: Why? Only reason I’ve seen given so far, is because “he’s Scottish”. Make of that what you will. I’ve drawn a blank as to what the relevance is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Icon of Symmetry said: Only reason I’ve seen given so far, is because “he’s Scottish”. Make of that what you will. I’ve drawn a blank as to what the relevance is. young Scottish talent is better than average foreign players in my opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, Jambo_in_Hamilton said: young Scottish talent is better than average foreign players in my opinion Oh, right. Not sure how their national identity fits in to that. Did you mean to say, you think Brandon is a better player? Edited June 3, 2019 by Icon of Symmetry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 Just now, Icon of Symmetry said: Oh, right. Not sure how their national identity fits in to that. we are a Scottish team, playing in Scotland - I think its only a good thing to have more Scottish players than not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jambo_in_Hamilton said: we are a Scottish team, playing in Scotland - I think its only a good thing to have more Scottish players than not Even if there are better non-Scots available? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 8 minutes ago, Icon of Symmetry said: Even if there are better non-Scots available? Ofcourse if there are better non-Scots available, then that is good. But if it's a choice between an average foreign player and average young Scottish player - we should go with the Scottish player where possible, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Turn Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 Knew one of them would get punted, it was either going to be him or Brandon. I’m a wee bit shocked it’s Godinho tbh. Since Brandon has come back from injury he’s been utter horseshit, so i’m quite surprised were keeping hold of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbert. Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 4 hours ago, kimosavi said: Or was it @Herbert Yup it was me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 10 minutes ago, Jambo_in_Hamilton said: Ofcourse if there are better non-Scots available, then that is good. But if it's a choice between an average foreign player and average young Scottish player - we should go with the Scottish player where possible, I see. That wasn’t really clear from your post. Personally I’d not even consider nationality, and it would be 100% down to how good they are, but to each there own. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadKiller Dog Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 (edited) He's only 21, should be talking about being keen to force his way into the team to get more games, not moving on for more games. If he wants to go let him Edited June 3, 2019 by ToadKiller Dog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 8 minutes ago, Icon of Symmetry said: I see. That wasn’t really clear from your post. Personally I’d not even consider nationality, and it would be 100% down to how good they are, but to each there own. ? yeah that's your opinion and you are entitled to it, as am I. But like you say, each to their own Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimosavi Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 13 minutes ago, Herbert said: Yup it was me Top man what you thinking bout Godinho possibly leaving to get more football? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Jambo_in_Hamilton said: yeah that's your opinion and you are entitled to it, as am I. But like you say, each to their own Yes, thanks. That’s what I just said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbert. Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 18 minutes ago, kimosavi said: Top man what you thinking bout Godinho possibly leaving to get more football? Still think he will be contracted to hearts maybe a loan for 6months. As long as he's here for the first day of preseason that's all I'm interested in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooperstar Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 Not good enough, best for him to move on. Championship player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feedthefox Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 Always thought he added a bit of urgency was positive and got forward in support. Did he not score at Tynie this season getting on the end of a Soapy pass?? (might be mistaken) Certainly wouldn't be disappointed if he stayed for another season but if he wants regular football next season he will likely be off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimosavi Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 37 minutes ago, Herbert said: Still think he will be contracted to hearts maybe a loan for 6months. As long as he's here for the first day of preseason that's all I'm interested in. Haha me too mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gershwin Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 4 hours ago, Absolute Scenes said: I'd have Godhinio ahead of Brandon, but having said that if Smith was out and Godhinio stepped in, for say, a derby game - I'd have the utter fear Good footballer but someone like Dundee United would be a good level for him You must have had an aneurysm when they read the teams out on 28th December last year. I thought he was great that day, but some reason or other he's not had a look in since that game. Don't think he's got it going forward though. He's pretty poor with the ball at his feet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 2 hours ago, ToadKiller Dog said: He's only 21, should be talking about being keen to force his way into the team to get more games, not moving on for more games. If he wants to go let him Just feel he didn't take his chance when he played this season. You don't get many chances. It could be Cammy Logan is rated more highly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saxondale Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 He’s okay. Nothing more, nothing less. Which isn’t really acceptable with a surname like his! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Famous 1874 Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 Not good enough and neither is Brandon. Get them both shipped out with sell on clauses and get a younger and better full back who will compete with Smith for the starting spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 Maybe a year on loan then decide whether to give him another contract. He is a bit injury prone. Smith isn’t getting any younger though and misses games through injury himself from time to time, he might also move inside as Hughes did in his latter years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 9 hours ago, Finlay James said: Marcus is a decent player but I'm not sure he's at our level. I can see him heading back to Canada/USA this summer. Smith is obviously our established right back and the club seem to prefer Brandon over Godinho. IMO, we have better right backs in the reserves and U-18's that could provide cover for Smith. Jay Sandison and Cammy Logan are very highly regarded at the club. Logan in particular, is very comfortable on the ball. Think this is spot on. Godinho and Brandon are both 21 now, probably time to start introducing the younger lads. Hickey being so impressive on the left is probably going to make Logan and Sandison hungry for similar opportunities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boag1874 Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 I like Marcus but he’s not going to overthrow Smith. I’d ideally keep him around because he’s good cover but if he wants to go out and get regular game time elsewhere I can’t hold it against him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo92 Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 1 minute ago, boag1874 said: I like Marcus but he’s not going to overthrow Smith. I’d ideally keep him around because he’s good cover but if he wants to go out and get regular game time elsewhere I can’t hold it against him Yeah he's an adequate back up for Hearts but he's not a top 6 Premier league right back. He's got a tough decision to make, he's at a big club getting reasonable amount of game time for a guy his age and getting into his national team squads. Could leave and disappear into the abyss or could stay and be get very limited game time and get released aged 23/24 with not much experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorillajam Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 I've not been impressed by either of Godinho or Brandon. Personally don't feel they are of SPL quality and would be better suited to the Scottish Championship or league 1. Smith is streets ahead of Godinho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indianajones Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 We will let a barely adequate player leave and replace him with another barely adequate player. Excellent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Bubblebeard Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 8 hours ago, jonnothejambo said: I don't mean to sound harsh but he is nowhere near good enough for us. While I'm at it, Brandon isn't good enough either. When he goes , I wish him well. Exactly this. If we are coveting improvement next season then neither of these guys should be our backup RB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portable Badger Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 Shame as I rate him slightly higher than Brandon. Saying that I think Marcus and Brandon will end up being Smithesque players - solid, dependable but never set the heather alight. Wish him every success whether stays or moves on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 (edited) Not much to choose between Brandon and Godinho tbh , Brandon can maybe offer something in midfield as well as right back. Right time to allow one to move on. Edited June 3, 2019 by Gambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 7 hours ago, Taffin said: Think Godinho is decent enough despite his injury issues. If he is happy to play second fiddle to Smith I'd keep him. He's much better than Brandon who just won't cut it at this level. Clearing space for two other rb’s coming through. Sandison and Logan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 Not overly excited by either Godinho or Brandon. Both are about the same level. Neither is good enough to shift Smith. I don't know the younger guys mentioned as being the next age group (Logan and Sandison) but it sounds like one of Godinho or Brandon needs to move on to make space. So be it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sub4TiddlerMurray Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 (edited) For me Godinho started off looking shaky and has steadily improved and was looking very good in his last match. Whereas Brandon started off looking like a real player but seems to have regressed. I hope Godinho reconsiders because we need a really good back up at right back and I'm no longer sure Brandon will cut it. Good to hear we have young players coming through but unless we have another at Hickey's level then right back could be a problem area if Smith gets injured. Edited June 3, 2019 by Sub4TiddlerMurray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 10 hours ago, Absolute Scenes said: Moore I'm not bothered about but gutted about Zanatta if true - really think he could have kicked on and been a regular this year Don't get the obsession with Zanatta at all. What has he done in his various loan spells to suggest he will be anything other than a good Championship player? 2 hours ago, Pasquale for King said: Maybe a year on loan then decide whether to give him another contract. He is a bit injury prone. Smith isn’t getting any younger though and misses games through injury himself from time to time, he might also move inside as Hughes did in his latter years. Smith turns 31 in September. A bit of life in him yet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 5 minutes ago, Darren said: Don't get the obsession with Zanatta at all. What has he done in his various loan spells to suggest he will be anything other than a good Championship player? Smith turns 31 in September. A bit of life in him yet! Yeah and he’s played 280 in ten years which shows he always misses games every season for one reason or another. We need a back up with a view to being his replacement within the next two years, full backs need to be able to get up and down the pitch constantly these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 I quite like Godinho but we need to have much higher standards, quite good is nowhere near where we want to be. Brandon's ok too but we should remember that Hickey's a right back that Celtic converted to midfield. I'm more than happy with Smith as our right back for next season with wee Hickey able to step in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finlay James Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Sub4TiddlerMurray said: For me Godinho started off looking shaky and has steadily improved and was looking very good in his last match. Whereas Brandon started off looking like a real player but seems to have regressed. I hope Godinho reconsiders because we need a really good back up at right back and I'm no longer sure Brandon will cut it. Good to hear we have young players coming through but unless we have another at Hickey's level then right back could be a problem area if Smith gets injured. Sandison & Logan are at Hickeys level. Logan, as well as the other 2 Hearts lads in the team, was head and shoulders above playing for Scotland U-17's recently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All roads lead to Gorgie Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 I will be a bit disappointed if we let him go as I think he has been improving and is good cover. Not a world beater by any means but not the worst player to have pulled on maroon. Give him more time Hearts and see what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboT Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 12 hours ago, HMFC86 said: As a few have said, really don’t think either are good enough. A lot of similarities to McHattie. Both are half decent going forward, but poor defensively and both look a lot worse after injury, which happened with McHattie too. Personally I’d let both go and bring in one right back. Very good post and was what I was thinking. He’s alright going forward, but positionally and defensively he’s just not good enough. The Mchattie comparison is spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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