Jammy T Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Cruickshank for Scotland said: It was indeed. The difference was the team of 98 had a terrific league season. That wasn’t the point The point was we had an easy cup draw this season as if getting to the final doesn’t count. We won **** all in 98 apart from the cup the last time I looked. Edited May 24, 2019 by Jammy T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 Oh and for all the slavers who will pounce on 98 being oh so different, when we won the cup in 98 JJ had had 3 full seasons to build the team that won it with him as manager. Imagine giving a manager 3 years before winning anything at Hearts.... Just not good enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jammy T said: That wasn’t the point The point was we had an easy cup draw this season as if getting to the final doesn’t count. We won **** all in 98 apart from the cup the last time I looked. The point that many are putting up is getting to the final is some sort of evidence that we currently have a good team and management. Comparing the current team to that of 98 in any shape or form is nonsense. As for your “we won **** all in 98 apart from the cup” made me sit up TBH. It was the most significant success ever for a huge number of Hearts fans. Anyway JT let’s not quibble - big day tomorrow when we will all stand together! HHGH ❤️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 6 minutes ago, Jammy T said: Oh and for all the slavers who will pounce on 98 being oh so different, when we won the cup in 98 JJ had had 3 full seasons to build the team that won it with him as manager. Imagine giving a manager 3 years before winning anything at Hearts.... Just not good enough. Ignoring of course Levein’s 5 year plan....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Cruickshank for Scotland said: The point that many are putting up is getting to the final is some sort of evidence that we currently have a good team and management. Comparing the current team to that of 98 in any shape or form is nonsense. As for your “we won **** all in 98 apart from the cup” made me sit up TBH. It was the most significant success ever for a huge number of Hearts fans. Anyway JT let’s not quibble - big day tomorrow when we will all stand together! HHGH ❤️ And tomorrow will come pretty close if not beat it given we were nearly bust 5 years ago So I still don’t get your point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMFC 86 Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Jammy T said: And tomorrow will come pretty close if not beat it given we were nearly bust 5 years ago So I still don’t get your point. Aye you’re clueless right enough. Good you admit it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Cruickshank for Scotland said: Ignoring of course Levein’s 5 year plan....? Ignoring on the precise make up of what that plan actually is, unless I am dreaming, we are 90 minutes away from a significant element of that plan coming to fruition. We also have around 6 extremely talented and exciting teenagers who are nearly ready to get into the first team and help transform it with a solid spine of good quality experience around them. I don’t see much to ridicule to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 21 minutes ago, Cruickshank for Scotland said: The point that many are putting up is getting to the final is some sort of evidence that we currently have a good team and management. Comparing the current team to that of 98 in any shape or form is nonsense. As for your “we won **** all in 98 apart from the cup” made me sit up TBH. It was the most significant success ever for a huge number of Hearts fans. Anyway JT let’s not quibble - big day tomorrow when we will all stand together! HHGH ❤️ To be fair, if 98 never happened then the Gretna final would then have been our greatest day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 Pack it in. Budgie Army's heading to Hampden. Tweet Tweet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatever Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 35 minutes ago, Cruickshank for Scotland said: It was indeed. The difference was the team of 98 had a terrific league season. 76’s draw was easier but boy did we make hard work of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 38 minutes ago, Cruickshank for Scotland said: It was indeed. The difference was the team of 98 had a terrific league season. The team of 2012 didn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, graygo said: To be fair, if 98 never happened then the Gretna final would then have been our greatest day. And if neither happened 2012 would have been our greatest day......? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, Whatever said: 76’s draw was easier but boy did we make hard work of it. Thats because we had a very poor team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, Whatever said: 76’s draw was easier but boy did we make hard work of it. Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, Cruickshank for Scotland said: And if neither happened 2012 would have been our greatest day......? And if 2012 never........ ach that was always going to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorgie rd eh11 Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, Cruickshank for Scotland said: And if neither happened 2012 would have been our greatest day......? 2012 was the greatest day. 98 was the most emotional, biggest adrenaline rush. But 2012 was the biggest game in our and hibs history. It's fashionable, particularly among hibs fans, to play it down but losing that day was not an option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatever Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 12 minutes ago, Cruickshank for Scotland said: Thats because we had a very poor team. No arguments here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 1 minute ago, gorgie rd eh11 said: 2012 was the greatest day. 98 was the most emotional, biggest adrenaline rush. But 2012 was the biggest game in our and hibs history. It's fashionable, particularly among hibs fans, to play it down but losing that day was not an option. For Hearts fans of my generation who waited 36 years to see Hearts win a cup, 1998 will never be beaten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTweedy Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 8 hours ago, Marvin said: A final or at least a semi is to be expected but 6th in the league is not good enough! On the whole transfers have been hit and miss. And on field performances have been less than exciting at best. But if Ann is happy then so be it. There's no way she's actually happy with how things are going on the pitch. She's not stupid enough to announce this to the media in the build up to a cup final though. It would instantly result in the management team and quite possibly a large number of the players having to field incessant questions about CL's future while they're all trying to focus on preparing for the game. Why that's hard for people to understand is beyond me. Also, it's entirely possible for AB to be unhappy with how things have gone this season but, particularly bearing in mind how this season started, think that the best course of action right now is to wait and see if CL can get next season off to a similar start and then manage to sustain it. Whether that would be utterly stupid, misguided or ultimately quite sensible, would only be borne out by what happens next season, but it's entirely possible to be unhappy with someone's performance but think they should be given the chance to turn it around. FWIW, if I were in her position, if we lose tomorrow I'd be telling him on Monday that it's time for him to step away from the manager's role (I'd let him continue as DoF if he was still up for that) . If we win, I'd give him the start of next season and see hiw things go. Some people might argue it's crazy to base such a big decision on one game, but people often talk about a manager's ability to win big games, and they don't come any bigger (for us, at least) than Scottish Cup finals! I wouldn't be stupid enough to tell the media any of that in the run up to the game though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 8 minutes ago, FarmerTweedy said: There's no way she's actually happy with how things are going on the pitch. She's not stupid enough to announce this to the media in the build up to a cup final though. It would instantly result in the management team and quite possibly a large number of the players having to field incessant questions about CL's future while they're all trying to focus on preparing for the game. Why that's hard for people to understand is beyond me. Also, it's entirely possible for AB to be unhappy with how things have gone this season but, particularly bearing in mind how this season started, think that the best course of action right now is to wait and see if CL can get next season off to a similar start and then manage to sustain it. Whether that would be utterly stupid, misguided or ultimately quite sensible, would only be borne out by what happens next season, but it's entirely possible to be unhappy with someone's performance but think they should be given the chance to turn it around. FWIW, if I were in her position, if we lose tomorrow I'd be telling him on Monday that it's time for him to step away from the manager's role (I'd let him continue as DoF if he was still up for that) . If we win, I'd give him the start of next season and see hiw things go. Some people might argue it's crazy to base such a big decision on one game, but people often talk about a manager's ability to win big games, and they don't come any bigger (for us, at least) than Scottish Cup finals! I wouldn't be stupid enough to tell the media any of that in the run up to the game though! Sense /\ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTweedy Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 7 hours ago, i8hibsh said: Same age as me and we went to the same school! You're older than 12????????????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorgie rd eh11 Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 11 minutes ago, Cruickshank for Scotland said: For Hearts fans of my generation who waited 36 years to see Hearts win a cup, 1998 will never be beaten. Different people have their favourites. Doesn't alter the clubs biggest result was 19/05/12. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTweedy Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 4 hours ago, i8hibsh said: Apart from the incorrect pronoun. I need a safe space Just picture yourself in the caravan, beer in hand, jumping for joy, tears of elation trickling down your face as Willie the Column blows the final whistle. That WILL be you at about 4:50pm tomorrow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Jammy T said: And tomorrow will come pretty close if not beat it given we were nearly bust 5 years ago So I still don’t get your point. TBH I don’t get your point JT. You threw up that it took JJ 3 years to win the cup - after 2 years he had built a cracking football side that lost to a stellar Rangers team in 2 finals - one we deserved to win but for two moments of brilliance from Gazza! In year 3 his team building was complete and we went on to win the cup and have a cracking league season - Levein is miles away from that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 (edited) 41 minutes ago, gorgie rd eh11 said: Different people have their favourites. Doesn't alter the clubs biggest result was 19/05/12. In your opinion Edited May 24, 2019 by Thomaso Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorgie rd eh11 Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Cruickshank for Scotland said: In your opinion Check the build up to 19/05/12. The biggest game in either of the Edinburgh clubs history in everybody's opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 1 hour ago, John Findlay said: The team of 2012 didn't. The comparison was between the current side and the 98 team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, gorgie rd eh11 said: Check the build up to 19/05/12. The biggest game in either of the Edinburgh clubs history in everybody's opinion. That may be, but for fans of my age having to watch losing semi-final after semi-final and final after final since 1962, winning the cup in 98 will never be beaten. Edited May 24, 2019 by Thomaso Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorgie rd eh11 Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Cruickshank for Scotland said: That may be, but for fans of my age having to watch losing final after final since 1962, winning the cup in 98 will never be beaten. As i said everybody has their favourites. 2012 was the biggest game though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, gorgie rd eh11 said: As i said everybody has their favourites. 2012 was the biggest game though. 98 wasn’t just a “favourite” final for fans of my era - it was THE game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, gorgie rd eh11 said: As i said everybody has their favourites. 2012 was the biggest game though. 98 wasn’t just a “favourite” final for fans of my era - it was THE game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydug Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 10 hours ago, Paris 84 said: Partick Thistle away. Young guys singing between the Directors Box and the dugouts. We’re winning 1-0 and the world’s great. “Craigy, Craigy gie is a wave, gie us a wave”. Partick equalised and all hell breaks loose. “Levein, GTF”, “Levein, your ruining this club”. Not to mention the complete balloon who thought it was acceptable to stand facing Ann Budge no more than five feet from her, staring at her and ignoring the match going on behind him. A dozen or so of his mates were singing their ridiculous song about the club being in the wrong hands. Now that was instantaneous flip-flopping. Some of the cretins who are attaching them self's to Hearts these days will drive people away from Hearts. No decent fan wants to be associated with these pricks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Cruickshank for Scotland said: For Hearts fans of my generation who waited 36 years to see Hearts win a cup, 1998 will never be beaten. Absolutely. Football has never been the same since 16/5/98. Waited 43 years to witness it in person and was actually a bit peeved that my kids witnessed it after waiting only 17/19 years. Now they have seen it 3 times in 20 years. Doesn’t seem fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 1 hour ago, FarmerTweedy said: There's no way she's actually happy with how things are going on the pitch. She's not stupid enough to announce this to the media in the build up to a cup final though. It would instantly result in the management team and quite possibly a large number of the players having to field incessant questions about CL's future while they're all trying to focus on preparing for the game. Why that's hard for people to understand is beyond me. Also, it's entirely possible for AB to be unhappy with how things have gone this season but, particularly bearing in mind how this season started, think that the best course of action right now is to wait and see if CL can get next season off to a similar start and then manage to sustain it. Whether that would be utterly stupid, misguided or ultimately quite sensible, would only be borne out by what happens next season, but it's entirely possible to be unhappy with someone's performance but think they should be given the chance to turn it around. FWIW, if I were in her position, if we lose tomorrow I'd be telling him on Monday that it's time for him to step away from the manager's role (I'd let him continue as DoF if he was still up for that) . If we win, I'd give him the start of next season and see hiw things go. Some people might argue it's crazy to base such a big decision on one game, but people often talk about a manager's ability to win big games, and they don't come any bigger (for us, at least) than Scottish Cup finals! I wouldn't be stupid enough to tell the media any of that in the run up to the game though! Probably closest to reality post on here for a while. Can’t afford to lose him as DoF in terms of academy development. Could find an equally good, if not better, head coach. Fingers crossed for win tomorrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agentjambo Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 1 hour ago, FarmerTweedy said: There's no way she's actually happy with how things are going on the pitch. She's not stupid enough to announce this to the media in the build up to a cup final though. It would instantly result in the management team and quite possibly a large number of the players having to field incessant questions about CL's future while they're all trying to focus on preparing for the game. Why that's hard for people to understand is beyond me. Also, it's entirely possible for AB to be unhappy with how things have gone this season but, particularly bearing in mind how this season started, think that the best course of action right now is to wait and see if CL can get next season off to a similar start and then manage to sustain it. Whether that would be utterly stupid, misguided or ultimately quite sensible, would only be borne out by what happens next season, but it's entirely possible to be unhappy with someone's performance but think they should be given the chance to turn it around. FWIW, if I were in her position, if we lose tomorrow I'd be telling him on Monday that it's time for him to step away from the manager's role (I'd let him continue as DoF if he was still up for that) . If we win, I'd give him the start of next season and see hiw things go. Some people might argue it's crazy to base such a big decision on one game, but people often talk about a manager's ability to win big games, and they don't come any bigger (for us, at least) than Scottish Cup finals! I wouldn't be stupid enough to tell the media any of that in the run up to the game though! I think he will end up head of academy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc_liam06 Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 12 hours ago, macker1874 said: If it wasn't for the split we would have finished 9th she knows business but she doesn't know football if that was any other team the manager would have been sacked by now. She's deluded when it comes to Craig and says he's not bombproof that shows right enough when she says she's happy with him because we got to a semi final and a final cups are a bonus for me league is a priority. How would we have finished 9th? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc_liam06 Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Barack said: Not sure macker's up on how the split works, mate. Possibly need to go back, and look at the SFA meeting notes on it. Absolute balloons, the folk that go on total points post-split. Completely different set of fixtures ffs 9th though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford donald Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 1 hour ago, FarmerTweedy said: There's no way she's actually happy with how things are going on the pitch. She's not stupid enough to announce this to the media in the build up to a cup final though. It would instantly result in the management team and quite possibly a large number of the players having to field incessant questions about CL's future while they're all trying to focus on preparing for the game. Why that's hard for people to understand is beyond me. Also, it's entirely possible for AB to be unhappy with how things have gone this season but, particularly bearing in mind how this season started, think that the best course of action right now is to wait and see if CL can get next season off to a similar start and then manage to sustain it. Whether that would be utterly stupid, misguided or ultimately quite sensible, would only be borne out by what happens next season, but it's entirely possible to be unhappy with someone's performance but think they should be given the chance to turn it around. FWIW, if I were in her position, if we lose tomorrow I'd be telling him on Monday that it's time for him to step away from the manager's role (I'd let him continue as DoF if he was still up for that) . If we win, I'd give him the start of next season and see hiw things go. Some people might argue it's crazy to base such a big decision on one game, but people often talk about a manager's ability to win big games, and they don't come any bigger (for us, at least) than Scottish Cup finals! I wouldn't be stupid enough to tell the media any of that in the run up to the game though! Win, lose or draw,there will be changes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agentjambo Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 1 minute ago, ford donald said: Win, lose or draw,there will be changes! You better not be getting my Hope's up to be disappointed when hes here next year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iwasthere1954 Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Barack said: Not sure macker's up on how the split works, mate. Possibly need to go back, and look at the SFA meeting notes on it. Going back to school might be a better idea!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 1 hour ago, soonbe110 said: Absolutely. Football has never been the same since 16/5/98. Waited 43 years to witness it in person and was actually a bit peeved that my kids witnessed it after waiting only 17/19 years. Now they have seen it 3 times in 20 years. Doesn’t seem fair. I told my kids the same “supported Hearts fur 5 minutes and yuv seen 3 cups wins - that’s no what supporting Hearts is all about!!!” ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasavallan Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 It may seem trivial but one thing that annoyed me with Romanov and also with Budge is that they were/are not the owner of Heart of Midlothian FC. I can accept the media being lazy and referring to Mrs Budge as the owner when she is in fact just the majority shareholder, but when both the club and herself start spouting this error... For the record, Hearts are owned by its shareholders. It just so happens that Mrs Budge bought Romanov's majority stake (79%?) in the club but it does not make her owner. RANT OVER HHGH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Tasavallan said: It may seem trivial but one thing that annoyed me with Romanov and also with Budge is that they were/are not the owner of Heart of Midlothian FC. I can accept the media being lazy and referring to Mrs Budge as the owner when she is in fact just the majority shareholder, but when both the club and herself start spouting this error... For the record, Hearts are owned by its shareholders. It just so happens that Mrs Budge bought Romanov's majority stake (79%?) in the club but it does not make her owner. RANT OVER HHGH If you are majority shareholder, Chairman and CEO, or can nominate the chairman and CEO, then you are the owner... Edited May 25, 2019 by Spellczech Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridge of Djoum Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 (edited) On 24/05/2019 at 05:49, macker1874 said: If it wasn't for the split we would have finished 9th she knows business but she doesn't know football if that was any other team the manager would have been sacked by now. She's deluded when it comes to Craig and says he's not bombproof that shows right enough when she says she's happy with him because we got to a semi final and a final cups are a bonus for me league is a priority. Edited May 25, 2019 by Bridge of Djoum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamhammer Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 13 hours ago, ford donald said: Win, lose or draw,there will be changes! Also what I was told last week. Dunno how much of it was wishful thinking tho as the fella that told me is not a CL fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Bridge of Djoum said: Some reply BOD , our post split matches were shocking, maybe you know different. Hopefully win today, very hard ask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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