NB GIN Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Man Utd fans wondering what the problem is at the club apparently Sanchez gets 75,000 per goal and 25,000 per assist Pogba gets 50,000 per goal but no other players receive this at the club Totally madness this to give these bonus payments no wonder the club are in free-fall Foorball needs to sort itself out the money is insane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc_liam06 Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Sanchez won't have earned much then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chester copperpot Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 7 minutes ago, NB GIN said: Man Utd fans wondering what the problem is at the club apparently Sanchez gets 75,000 per goal and 25,000 per assist Pogba gets 50,000 per goal but no other players receive this at the club Totally madness this to give these bonus payments no wonder the club are in free-fall Foorball needs to sort itself out the money is insane On top of their 500K per week salary. I totally agree with clubs who put a wage cap on their salaries as that's just ridiculous. Sanchez is nothing short of a wee mercenary *****! Great that it's Man Utd though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor jambo Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 12 minutes ago, NB GIN said: Man Utd fans wondering what the problem is at the club apparently Sanchez gets 75,000 per goal and 25,000 per assist Pogba gets 50,000 per goal but no other players receive this at the club Totally madness this to give these bonus payments no wonder the club are in free-fall Foorball needs to sort itself out the money is insane With Chelsea and Man City utterly flouting UEFA rules on signing/ financial fair play, then some clubs are having to resort to this to keep up. Wages will skyrocket to try and overhaul city- and if you want the best- as that is what is needed- then its going to take MASSIVE wages. Even Liverpool- how much did their squad cost to assemble? Van Djiik was what, £100,000,000 ? You could buy every Scottish club for that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chester copperpot Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, doctor jambo said: With Chelsea and Man City utterly flouting UEFA rules on signing/ financial fair play, then some clubs are having to resort to this to keep up. Wages will skyrocket to try and overhaul city- and if you want the best- as that is what is needed- then its going to take MASSIVE wages. Even Liverpool- how much did their squad cost to assemble? Van Djiik was what, £100,000,000 ? You could buy every Scottish club for that Put it into context though. Van Dijk and Salah cost less than Coutinho! Pretty good deal that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor jambo Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, chester copperpot said: Put it into context though. Van Dijk and Salah cost less than Coutinho! Pretty good deal that! True, but to put together a title tilt now would cost - ? £500 million to £1 billion in transfers alone if you did it from scratch. and that is just for your 1st 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Lynam Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 25 minutes ago, NB GIN said: Man Utd fans wondering what the problem is at the club apparently Sanchez gets 75,000 per goal and 25,000 per assist Pogba gets 50,000 per goal but no other players receive this at the club Totally madness this to give these bonus payments no wonder the club are in free-fall Foorball needs to sort itself out the money is insane No it doesn’t. Man United tearing itself apart is wonderful to witness. Ole’s at the wheel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 It's bizarre - The negotiators at football clubs must be truly awful. If you are going to set a goals target then you do it in increments of 5 or 10 not a payment for every goal, and you also include a clause about penalties ie that they are included or excluded, separate or at a reduced amount... Also incentivising assists breeds ball-greediness and poor onfield decision-making... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ribble Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, doctor jambo said: True, but to put together a title tilt now would cost - ? £500 million to £1 billion in transfers alone if you did it from scratch. and that is just for your 1st 11 It does cost that if you only buy players that are the finished article, if you develop players then that spend becomes much less, just look at Champions League semi finalists Ajax, their squad cost 50m euros to put together! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsalldothebeattie Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Both need to go this summer. If united want to start climbing back to where they were, challenging for the big trophies, then clearing these two wastes of shirts is the start. Young, Smalling & Jones as well but that’s because they’re pure shite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor jambo Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 7 minutes ago, Ribble said: It does cost that if you only buy players that are the finished article, if you develop players then that spend becomes much less, just look at Champions League semi finalists Ajax, their squad cost 50m euros to put together! cannot happen in England- their youth players are on £20-30 K + per week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 For all the deserved stick Pogba gets is he not their top goalscorer. Rashford,Lukaku,Martial have had worse seasons than Pogba. Luke Shaw is the worst of the lot. Cannot even get himself in a decent physical shape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portable Badger Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Wish their Win & Assist Bonuses were much higher and I sincerely hope they stay until the end of their contracts. Horrible club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 That Woodward has been terrible for Man Utd he either fails to sign targets or pays way over the odds for others.Everything seems like a saga though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_A wehatethehibs Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 They should see if Real Madrid will do a straight swap, Sanchez for Bale. Both players passengers / massive wage bill burdens. Swap would be a gamble for all parties but payoff could be substantial if Bale is a hit at United or Sanchez is a hit at Real. Nothing really to lose. Zidane is definitely keen to get shot of Bale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, A_A wehatethehibs said: They should see if Real Madrid will do a straight swap, Sanchez for Bale. Both players passengers / massive wage bill burdens. Swap would be a gamble for all parties but payoff could be substantial if Bale is a hit at United or Sanchez is a hit at Real. Nothing really to lose. Zidane is definitely keen to get shot of Bale It wouldn't be a good move from Real's point of view, they could sell Bale, buy Sanchez and have money left over, so why swap? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 13 minutes ago, A_A wehatethehibs said: They should see if Real Madrid will do a straight swap, Sanchez for Bale. Both players passengers / massive wage bill burdens. Swap would be a gamble for all parties but payoff could be substantial if Bale is a hit at United or Sanchez is a hit at Real. Nothing really to lose. Zidane is definitely keen to get shot of Bale If Real are going to fall for that we should try and do the same for Clare, get them to continue to pay a % of Bales wages tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 13 minutes ago, Smithee said: It wouldn't be a good move from Real's point of view, they could sell Bale, buy Sanchez and have money left over, so why swap? Rumours are that Bale is going back to Spurs in a 10 million 1 year loan deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Turn Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Ole needs a complete firesale. Like needs to sell 20 players. A bunch of charlatans at Utd these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jodami Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Paying for goals and assists is a recipe for disaster, Man Utd are an ominshambles. At least Jon Stark was no win no fee! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull's-eye Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 JKB experts say sack everyone, apart from Chris Hughton of course, everyone else GTF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jodami Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, Artful Dodger said: JKB experts say sack everyone, apart from Chris Hughton of course, everyone else GTF. On the contrary Dodger, United should keep that squad together and buy "the golfer" at Madrid for a 9 figure sum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_A wehatethehibs Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 10 minutes ago, Smithee said: It wouldn't be a good move from Real's point of view, they could sell Bale, buy Sanchez and have money left over, so why swap? Just now, Olly Lee's left boot said: If Real are going to fall for that we should try and do the same for Clare, get them to continue to pay a % of Bales wages tho. Who is paying any kind of decent money for an injury prone 30 year old Bale? He is their Sanchez at this point, Zidane does not like him and the fans all hate him. Yes he scored big champions league final goals but in the league he has not delivered anywhere near expectations for the wage they are paying him. I reckon would happily offload his 300k wage burden off the wage bill for probably £10-20m which is the same sort of sum United would bite your hand off for Sanchez. No team on the planet is going to actually pay £40m+ for these players because of their wages, that’s why a swapper deal could work. Commercially Sanchez is a big big name in South American football as well, plus he is a proven la liga performer. They were probably angling to include Bale in a deal for Hazard but Chelsea can’t sign players so that will be a cash deal if it happens, they are stuck with Bale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull's-eye Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Just now, Jodami said: On the contrary Dodger, United should keep that squad together and buy "the golfer" at Madrid for a 9 figure sum. Boyz made of glass, perfect for Man Utd right enough. £650k a week as well so fits the Utd profile. ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Couldn't happen to a nicer club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticJambo Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 (edited) Both players are old news, wanted by neither club. Their current financial deals essentially bind them to their current clubs, and both will be content to 'play' them out. Modern football. Sad. Edited May 14, 2019 by ArcticJambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_A wehatethehibs Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, Cade said: Couldn't happen to a nicer club It’s potential oblivion. If things don’t go their way this summer, they could be heading for the bottom 10. Everton, Wolves, West Ham and Leicester all have good squads, good budgets and good footballing managers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 The Cockney Glams have apparently put together a huge fund of money to get rid of their top earners like Lukaku, Pogba, and Sanchez, they've also told the remaining players they need to take a 25% wage cut because of no Champions League football next season, and they've just hired Ole Gunnar Fraudster on a 3 year contract, it's all going rather swimmingly I reckon Oh, and Sanchez wasn't on £75k a goal, he was on £75k for a flipping appearance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jodami Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 22 minutes ago, Artful Dodger said: Boyz made of glass, perfect for Man Utd right enough. £650k a week as well so fits the Utd profile. ??? Maybe they could write a hole in one bonus into his deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlasgoJambo Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 25 minutes ago, Jodami said: At least Jon Stark was no win no fee! Inch perfect Cosmo ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jodami Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 18 minutes ago, GlasgoJambo said: Inch perfect Cosmo ? Best football comic ever mate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 52 minutes ago, A_A wehatethehibs said: Who is paying any kind of decent money for an injury prone 30 year old Bale? He is their Sanchez at this point, Zidane does not like him and the fans all hate him. Yes he scored big champions league final goals but in the league he has not delivered anywhere near expectations for the wage they are paying him. I reckon would happily offload his 300k wage burden off the wage bill for probably £10-20m which is the same sort of sum United would bite your hand off for Sanchez. No team on the planet is going to actually pay £40m+ for these players because of their wages, that’s why a swapper deal could work. Commercially Sanchez is a big big name in South American football as well, plus he is a proven la liga performer. They were probably angling to include Bale in a deal for Hazard but Chelsea can’t sign players so that will be a cash deal if it happens, they are stuck with Bale There is teams form china pay like £600k a week with almost no tax. Real won't want Sanchez, Pogba maybe. Could be something in that. But Man utd paid like £90m for him 2 seasons ago. ….. They won't give him away. Bales wages are not a problem if a teams wants him. Likely him not wanting to move to a " lesser" club. Lots of teams paying stupid money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 16 minutes ago, Lord BJ said: Is that the same Luke Shaw has made the second most appearances for Man Utd, outfield players, this season and won their player of the year award? https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.manutd.com/en/amp/news/detail/luke-shaw-voted-players-player-of-the-year-for-2018-19 Aye the same one. An embarrassment against City and Huddersfield. Your well and truly ###### when this clown is your poty. Shows you how bad a season your keeper has been when he doesn't win this for the umpteenth time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_A wehatethehibs Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 26 minutes ago, Olly Lee's left boot said: There is teams form china pay like £600k a week with almost no tax. Real won't want Sanchez, Pogba maybe. Could be something in that. But Man utd paid like £90m for him 2 seasons ago. ….. They won't give him away. Bales wages are not a problem if a teams wants him. Likely him not wanting to move to a " lesser" club. Lots of teams paying stupid money. Obv they would not want Sanchez on his own, definitely not. There’d be no way. But as an exit strategy to get Bale emptied I think Zidane would look at it. Bale out Sanchez in, for the bread and butter la liga games, plus the commercial side in South America which is massive part of Real Madrid. No money spent. It is definitely an unlikely deal but to me it makes more sense than both clubs keeping these 2 players. Customers ain’t exactly queueing up to buy either of them and pay their 300-400k wages ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 2 hours ago, Spellczech said: It's bizarre - The negotiators at football clubs must be truly awful. If you are going to set a goals target then you do it in increments of 5 or 10 not a payment for every goal, and you also include a clause about penalties ie that they are included or excluded, separate or at a reduced amount... Also incentivising assists breeds ball-greediness and poor onfield decision-making... You know an assist is when they pass the ball to set up a goal right? Complete opposite of greediness! When the top scorer in the EPL is a three way split on 22, it makes perfect sense to incentivise each goal. Sanchez getting £75k per goal is the equivalent of Uche getting £300-400 per goal. In the commercial context of the EPL £75k is nothing really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 It’s the players not the club at fault I would suggest. Pogba thinks he’s the best and doesn’t feel the need to prove it. Not a good attitude to have. You always look to improve and do better as well as your best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc_liam06 Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 3 hours ago, The Old Tolbooth said: The Cockney Glams have apparently put together a huge fund of money to get rid of their top earners like Lukaku, Pogba, and Sanchez, they've also told the remaining players they need to take a 25% wage cut because of no Champions League football next season, and they've just hired Ole Gunnar Fraudster on a 3 year contract, it's all going rather swimmingly I reckon Oh, and Sanchez wasn't on £75k a goal, he was on £75k for a flipping appearance! They aren't being told anything, it's a standard clause in their contracts. No Champions League = 25% reduction in wages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, hmfc_liam06 said: They aren't being told anything, it's a standard clause in their contracts. No Champions League = 25% reduction in wages. Long may it continue, I love seeing that horrible club suffer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 It’s a beautiful thing to watch, they’re so far off challenging the top two it’s scary co suffering how much they’ve spent and the wages they pay,since Fergie left. Watching Neville on the verge of tears and getting more high pitched as he rants on is entertaining. Listening to Keane talk about how a team should fight for each other, run more than every other team and leave every ounce of energy on the pitch should be compulsory viewing for young and old players alike. His critique of their current squad was spot on but perhaps too much for today’s football players to respond too, no doubt Klopp and Pep are as frank with their players but do it in a way young people nowadays respond to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brow Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 6 hours ago, Ribble said: It does cost that if you only buy players that are the finished article, if you develop players then that spend becomes much less, just look at Champions League semi finalists Ajax, their squad cost 50m euros to put together! Factor in how much money they have poured into their academy....if you think that squad only cost 50m euros then you're about 10x off the mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Pair of wanks, hate them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy T Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Ferguson didn’t make many mistakes with players he emptied from old Trafford especially youngsters and Pogba was no exception. He worked his ticket back to Man U for big money and showed up when he felt like it. Turned up for France but not Man U! As for Sanchez, Pep did Jose up like a kipper on that one, Jose was so desperate to get one over on him he paid about 10x what he had too for a player Pep was never that keen on in the first place. Man U used to be a club you worked your bollocks off to play for, any nonsense and you were out the door, you needed a will to win and a determination to be the best....now it’s just playground for players who have no respect for the history. It’s very Liverpool from the days the turned out in those terrible suits for the FA cup, all about looking flash and nothing else! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Perhaps a bit of a football manager post but from the outside looking in, those two shysters would be the first out the door. Spend the money on players which fit the Alex Ferguson mould - Hardworking grafters. I think Zaha is finally at a level where he's ready to make the step up, Maguire at Leicester would strengthen them defensively. Declan Rice would probably be a good acquisition too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 On 14/05/2019 at 13:29, Mr Elwood P said: You know an assist is when they pass the ball to set up a goal right? Complete opposite of greediness! When the top scorer in the EPL is a three way split on 22, it makes perfect sense to incentivise each goal. Sanchez getting £75k per goal is the equivalent of Uche getting £300-400 per goal. In the commercial context of the EPL £75k is nothing really. Yes, but what i meant is that it incentivises players doing things that are not necessarily the best decision ie Winger always trying to beat the man to get the cross in himself rather than pass to FB who is supporting him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 12 minutes ago, Spellczech said: Yes, but what i meant is that it incentivises players doing things that are not necessarily the best decision ie Winger always trying to beat the man to get the cross in himself rather than pass to FB who is supporting him. Imagine posting a reply to that on Scottish Cup Final day! Enjoy the game mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Mr Elwood P said: Imagine posting a reply to that on Scottish Cup Final day! Enjoy the game mate. Just back from 10 days in Italy. First time I've been online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 Great value for the glams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 11 minutes ago, Spellczech said: Just back from 10 days in Italy. First time I've been online. Fair enough mate. Wish I’d missed the last 10 days on here TBH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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