queensferryjambo Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 RIP Billy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, Jambo_in_Hamilton said: ahhh thanks According to Bertie Auld it was because he was a leader (and not a hollywood actor) like Caesar (even if they spelt it differently). I knew his niece back in the day. She lived at Cammo and if memory serves went to Craigmount High. Lovely girl. As for her uncle Billy, a genuine legend. Edited April 23, 2019 by Seymour M Hersh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 9 hours ago, jamboiain13 said: Celtic and Scotland legend Billy McNeil has sadly passed away. Billy finally set free from the hell of dementia and thoughts now turn to his family. How the heck did he only win 29 caps for Scotland? By all accounts he was a true gentleman and will be fondly remembered. Hail Caesar! I was wondering about that too. They mentioned his Lithuanian heritage but not that he’s the only man to have managed two teams that got relegated in one season in England. He appears to have been a down to earth guy and well liked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neon Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 8 hours ago, Gashauskis9 said: Would suggest the whole country observe this. He meant a lot to Scottish football, not just the clubs he played for or managed. This - Tremendous player and man, Sad loss to football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crete Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 3 hours ago, dkmmgcycbwc said: Great club man and captain. I believe he had Lithuanian I think his grandparents where fromLithuania . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
innerjambo Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 A true gentleman of the game. RIP Billy McNeil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Seymour M Hersh said: According to Bertie Auld it was because he was a leader (and not a hollywood actor) like Caesar (even if they spelt it differently). I knew his niece back in the day. She lived at Cammo and if memory serves went to Craigmount High. Lovely girl. As for her uncle Billy, a genuine legend. Cammo Hill by any chance, Seymour? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 24 minutes ago, jonnothejambo said: Nice tribute by Charlie Nicholas on Sky Sports. It was straight from the heart. Absolutely, it was spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamboelite Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Great man great footballer RIP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4marsbars Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 (edited) I first saw him play (at Tynecastle) in 1967 just before that amazing team became Lions. It’s sad that we are now losing his generation and he was among the best of them without a doubt. RIP. Edited April 23, 2019 by 4marsbars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notts1874 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Excellent programme on Radio 5 right now. Mixing the story of the Lisbon Lions with a bit of social history and how Scottish football truly was punching above it's weight at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Morgan said: Cammo Hill by any chance, Seymour? No I don't think so. It's a while ago (40 + years!!!) but I think they were in the Bank or the Place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasavallan Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 RIP Caesar. From an era when the names of the Lisbon Lions would have rolled off my tongue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sneckiejambo Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 A true footballing legend, well respected by everyone on and off the park, RIP Caesar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Wonder how often he was booked? Very few times I suspect and I doubt he was ever sent off. Absolutely great player. Rock solid and chipped in with important goals. Wonder what he thinks of these superstars like Ramos who writhe on the ground in agony only to make astonishing recoveries in seconds. I know exactly what he would have thought. At peace now and will never be forgotten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 On 23/04/2019 at 18:46, innerjambo said: A true gentleman of the game. RIP Billy McNeil Top class Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyces beard Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 RIP Billy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N Lincs Jambo Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 57 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Top class In a way I would have expected nothing less. John Greig always has been a class act and Billy was a friend. As strange as it might seem in the 60s the Rangers and Celtic players were actually able to socialise with each other. John and Billy were captains of their respective clubs in that era. I watched the programme on the new BBC Scotland channel last night celebrating Celtic’s 67 European Cup but they also showed a little bit of the footage from the league decider at Ibrox when Celtic needed a point to win the league. The game finished 2-2 and Celtic won. At the end though there was no GIRFUYs just honest handshakes between players of what were 2 great sides who both had European finals still to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 24 minutes ago, N Lincs Jambo said: In a way I would have expected nothing less. John Greig always has been a class act and Billy was a friend. As strange as it might seem in the 60s the Rangers and Celtic players were actually able to socialise with each other. John and Billy were captains of their respective clubs in that era. I watched the programme on the new BBC Scotland channel last night celebrating Celtic’s 67 European Cup but they also showed a little bit of the footage from the league decider at Ibrox when Celtic needed a point to win the league. The game finished 2-2 and Celtic won. At the end though there was no GIRFUYs just honest handshakes between players of what were 2 great sides who both had European finals still to play. And Jock Stein was the Celtic Manager - compare him to the little cretin they have on the touchline now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 On 23/04/2019 at 10:29, shaun.lawson said: Dave Mackay was Mr Hearts. Billy McNeill was Mr Celtic. Both extraordinary footballers - but equally fantastic men, from an era which seems almost unrecognisable now. What must it have felt like not only to play for, but captain such a legendary team, entirely made up of local heroes, which achieved the seemingly impossible while playing such magnificent football? And then go to manage them and enjoy success doing that too? I've no idea how he won so few Scotland caps; I've no idea how the Scotland side of that golden era didn't achieve far, far more. Billy McNeill wasn't just one of Scotland's greatest footballers... but one of its greatest people, period. Did anyone ever have a bad word to say about him? And just like Mackay, success didn't change him. He remained humble to the end; a man of the people. RIP and God bless Billy. There is a light that never goes out. Good words, Shaun. I think Billy grew up a Motherwell supporter but obviously absorbed himself into Celtic as a player and onto managership, and in lots of ways led by example with his conduct as a person and not just as a player. It rubbed off on others and given the melting pot nature of the game in Glasgow, he seemed to rise above it and gained admiring glances and respect from all angles. Also, as you say, Dave Mackay. He got to live the ultimate dream as fan and player. Both are true legends of the game for their achievements and more importantly the respect they gained for the type of person they were aswell. ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego Hamish Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Meh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 3 hours ago, Diego Hamish said: Meh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 Rather apt that the number 5 scored the winner for Celtic today in the 67th minute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 7 minutes ago, Jambo_in_Hamilton said: Rather apt that the number 5 scored the winner for Celtic today in the 67th minute. After 67 minutes so in the 68th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 8 minutes ago, Jambo_in_Hamilton said: Rather apt that the number 5 scored the winner for Celtic today in the 67th minute. Not really true though is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Jambo_in_Hamilton said: Rather apt that the number 5 scored the winner for Celtic today in the 67th minute. You don’t miss much, do you? Except, in this case, you’re wrong. Edited April 27, 2019 by Morgan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 13 minutes ago, davemclaren said: After 67 minutes so in the 68th. I think everyone can allow them to have this one 67 minutes on the clock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Jambo_in_Hamilton said: I think everyone can allow them to have this one 67 minutes on the clock Why should they be ‘allowed’ anything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, Jambo_in_Hamilton said: I think everyone can allow them to have this one 67 minutes on the clock Yip, scored in the 68th minute. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 17 minutes ago, Jambo_in_Hamilton said: I think everyone can allow them to have this one 67 minutes on the clock I thought you'd be out practising today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridge of Djoum Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 32 minutes ago, been here before said: I thought you'd be out practising today. I think all the windows have been tongue tested already today in Hamilton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Bridge of Djoum said: I think all the windows have been tongue tested already today in Hamilton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 56 minutes ago, davemclaren said: Yip, scored in the 68th minute. ? Don’t be so pedantic expected better from you to be honest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 24 minutes ago, Jambo_in_Hamilton said: Don’t be so pedantic expected better from you to be honest Whats he being pedantic about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thought Police Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 Same as when folk clapped Salvatori in the 6th minute at Murrayfield Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Jambo_in_Hamilton said: Don’t be so pedantic expected better from you to be honest You used that "expected better from you" line with me the other day and it puzzled me because you don't know me and to the best of my knowledge have never even met me. Humour me, have you ever met davemclaren? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorinoJambo Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 On 23 April 2019 at 15:49, davieholt said: My dad and I watched the 67 final on a wee black and white TV. We were so thrilled to see Celtic win it that we went to the pub to celebrate. A hearts pub (the Moat Bar) but it was bouncing. The sight of Billy heaving the cup over his head will never be forgotten. RIP big man and thanks for the memories I was thirteen and can honestly say I don't know many people (perhaps a few Huns) who didn't want them to win. Different days obviously. I first saw Celtic against us the following season and they were fantastic. Jimmy Johnstone is the best Scottish player I have ever seen In the flesh and big Billy was superb too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
132goals1958 Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 25 minutes ago, TorinoJambo said: I was thirteen and can honestly say I don't know many people (perhaps a few Huns) who didn't want them to win. Different days obviously. I first saw Celtic against us the following season and they were fantastic. Jimmy Johnstone is the best Scottish player I have ever seen In the flesh and big Billy was superb too. No disrespect to Billy McNeill as he deserved all the tributes and was a legend in Scottish Football. I was 23 years old in 1967 and I would be a hypocrite if I now said I wanted them to win just as I didn’t wish Rangers to conquer Bayern in the following year. Like McNeill John Greig will also be remembered quite rightly as a great in the Scottish game but I could never bring myself to lend any support to either. I will admit I was happy to see Aberdeen winning a European trophy.Maybe sounds a bit churlish but for me I have always disliked the gruesome twosome but at the same time there was nothing personal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorldChampions1902 Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 The OP makes an excellent point and it is something I thought incredulous so I checked it out. Indeed, it is correct that Billy McNeill won only 29 Scotland caps and that is beyond belief. He was such a classy player and always conducted himself with great dignity. His final years were blighted with dementia which is such a terrible condition that I'm sure many of us can relate to in terms of our elderly family members. My thoughts go out to Billy's family. RIP Billy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homme Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 6 hours ago, Bridge of Djoum said: I think all the windows have been tongue tested already today in Hamilton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portobellojambo1 Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 (edited) 49 minutes ago, 132goals1958 said: No disrespect to Billy McNeill as he deserved all the tributes and was a legend in Scottish Football. I was 23 years old in 1967 and I would be a hypocrite if I now said I wanted them to win just as I didn’t wish Rangers to conquer Bayern in the following year. Like McNeill John Greig will also be remembered quite rightly as a great in the Scottish game but I could never bring myself to lend any support to either. I will admit I was happy to see Aberdeen winning a European trophy.Maybe sounds a bit churlish but for me I have always disliked the gruesome twosome but at the same time there was nothing personal. I fall into the same category as TorinoJambo, in that I was really pleased to see Celtic win the European Cup Final in Lisbon in 1967. In my defence I was only 11 years old and in my eyes at that time Celtic were just another Scottish football club. I guess time changes you big time though because if Celtic and all their fans fell over a bottomless cliff now I wouldn't shed any tears. Although young at the time I read a lot of football books as well as playing the game from the minute it was light in the morning until it got dark at night. And in my reading I picked up a bit about Italian football and the "catenaccio" defensive formation . As a youngster who loved the game the thought of people setting out to stop players actually expressing themselves and producing flowing football horrified me and I think that was why I was so pleased Celtic beat Inter Milan at the time. And I don't know why but one of the things that sticks in my mind was the TV coverage of the crowd at the end of the game and the number of Celtic fans who were there wearing hats and raincoats in what looked like sweltering heat. In football I do think there are too many people who are elevated to the level of superstars, heroes, legends and the likes nowadays and actually fall into none of those categories. And in terms of minutes of silence or applause at football games I've always believed they should be limited to people in the game who have passed away. McNeill was a great captain for Celtic and a very decent guy by all accounts. I believe there is to be a minute's applause at Easter Road tomorrow before the game kicks off and I hope all in the stadium can raise themselves to respect that and not disrupt it in any way. Edited April 27, 2019 by portobellojambo1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks said no Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 6 hours ago, Bridge of Djoum said: I think all the windows have been tongue tested already today in Hamilton. Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 29 minutes ago, portobellojambo1 said: I fall into the same category as TorinoJambo, in that I was really pleased to see Celtic win the European Cup Final in Lisbon in 1967. In my defence I was only 11 years old and in my eyes at that time Celtic were just another Scottish football club. I guess time changes you big time though because if Celtic and all their fans fell over a bottomless cliff now I wouldn't shed any tears. Although young at the time I read a lot of football books as well as playing the game from the minute it was light in the morning until it got dark at night. And in my reading I picked up a bit about Italian football and the "catenaccio" defensive formation . As a youngster who loved the game the thought of people setting out to stop players actually expressing themselves and producing flowing football horrified me and I think that was why I was so pleased Celtic beat Inter Milan at the time. And I don't know why but one of the things that sticks in my mind was the TV coverage of the crowd at the end of the game and the number of Celtic fans who were there wearing hats and raincoats in what looked like sweltering heat. In football I do think there are too many people who are elevated to the level of superstars, heroes, legends and the likes nowadays and actually fall into none of those categories. And in terms of minutes of silence or applause at football games I've always believed they should be limited to people in the game who have passed away. McNeill was a great captain for Celtic and a very decent guy by all accounts. I believe there is to be a minute's applause at Easter Road tomorrow before the game kicks off and I hope all in the stadium can raise themselves to respect that and not disrupt it in any way. How do you disrupt a minute's applause. (Not that I want to do it) As to "supporting" Celtic, I remember when I was at primary school skiving off in the afternoon to watch them play in the European Cup, possibly against Atletico Madrid after Jimmy Johnstone got kicked up and down the shop in the first leg. Just checked and it was Madrid, 1974. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridge of Djoum Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 55 minutes ago, The Frenchman Returns said: Thank you Oh, you're welcome, although I'm not sure for what. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridge of Djoum Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 6 hours ago, graygo said: You used that "expected better from you" line with me the other day and it puzzled me because you don't know me and to the best of my knowledge have never even met me. Humour me, have you ever met davemclaren? He's for watching, apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, Bridge of Djoum said: He's for watching, apparently. As anyone who has met him well knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William H. Bonney Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 As I've said before. The best troll ever. The boy is a genius. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadj Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 9 hours ago, Bridge of Djoum said: I think all the windows have been tongue tested already today in Hamilton. I am doubled at this ???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadj Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Dino Velvet said: As I've said before. The best troll ever. The boy is a genius. Dave or JiH ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor FinnBarr Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 9 minutes ago, sadj said: I am doubled at this ???? Yep, i just felt a little dribble too, ffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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