J80MBO Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Completely different player since injury...gone from key player to one of the standard quality of hearts scouting system eg juanma, oshaniwa, sammon etc etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upgotheheads Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 2 hours ago, 3fingersreid said: His injury hasn’t helped him , probably been rushed back and his confidence is shot . I see him being used in the way Hughes was meant to be used next season , playing when injuries and/or suspensions hit Souttar and whoever his partner will be . Definetly needs a rest . this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 53 minutes ago, Yoda said: I beg to differ. Whenever we play 3 at the back, he's out wide left, which is left back position in anyone's book. He's usually left exposed by Mulraney who never tracks back. The left back position is usually the starting point for most of our attacks, when he hoofs it forward to no-one in particular. THIS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_A wehatethehibs Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Definitely a major concern. Hope he’s not finished but his current form is seriously bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1953 Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 He's struggled since his injury but would hate to think he's finished, definitely needs a rest or perhaps more treatment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hearts00 Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Can I just say that all the rest and fitness work in the world will not change the fact he is possibly the worst ball player we have ever had at centre half. Maybe someone with a better memory than me can tell me if he was better with the ball at his feet than Willie Jamieson but I seuspect not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Buck Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Wasn’t there today but it’s been quite hard to watch him the last few weeks. He’s absolutely shite just now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merrymac Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 We have just extended Jambo Soldier's contract. Time to give him a wee run in the team to see what he can properly do. Can only improve our distribution from the back as a minimum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Morgan Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, merrymac said: We have just extended Jambo Soldier's contract. Time to give him a wee run in the team to see what he can properly do. Can only improve our distribution from the back as a minimum. Yep, he deserves a run in the team now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambopilms Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 I didnt think he was too bad today but his distribution has always been shit. The midfield should take some flack for it. Defenders job is to pass to the midfield who then drive us forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merrymac Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 1 minute ago, jambopilms said: I didnt think he was too bad today but his distribution has always been shit. The midfield should take some flack for it. Defenders job is to pass to the midfield who then drive us forward. Agree about the midfield . Never seem open to receive a pass from defence(causing Berra hoof), and then never seem to be upfield to support long ball?Distinct lack of effort to get open, most of the time. Only time we got some passing going was in Thistle replay, but back to the old usual today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obua Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Berra Naismith joint player manager,they wouldn’t play much .Even if levein was dof it would be better than the current management. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambo85 Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Let’s just say what everyone else is thinking. He has been absolutely shite since coming back from injury and Levein should grow a pair and drop him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnB Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 2 hours ago, hearts00 said: Can I just say that all the rest and fitness work in the world will not change the fact he is possibly the worst ball player we have ever had at centre half. You're a brave man and I admire your candour. The truth is normally unpalatable on here and a mauling would have been expected. It just shows how bad things are at the moment when you haven't even had to add the rider "tin hat firmly on". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 7 hours ago, Dannie Boy said: I fear his legs have gone. I get the impression he is struggling to run at times. He looks like he’s got a limp too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 6 hours ago, Jambo_in_Hamilton said: He looks like he’s got a limp too Correct. Even when he's walking out at the start of a match he appears to limp!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 10 hours ago, jambopilms said: I didnt think he was too bad today but his distribution has always been shit. The midfield should take some flack for it. Defenders job is to pass to the midfield who then drive us forward. He was bullied for 80 mins by theur number 9 every time the ball was in the air in our half Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 18 hours ago, jambo_ said: not only is he shite he's also our captain.... but where are is leadership skills? when does he ever rally the 'troops'? when does he encourage our young players? You hardly ever see him speaking to the refs and trying to lift the players when things are going badly. He is a great defender if the ball is coming at him in the ait ans a shot blocker as he will put his body on the line. When we play three at the back he is horrendous looks totally lost and it's a shame for him that it has come to this. Naismith is the motivator in the team that is one of the reasons why we are so poor when he is not playing although he was not that great either after his last injury. I think because they are both such big players for the club CL has maybe pushed them to retun too soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridge of Djoum Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 18 hours ago, jambo_ said: not only is he shite he's also our captain.... but where are is leadership skills? when does he ever rally the 'troops'? when does he encourage our young players? ''Not only is he shite''? He's not ''shite''. He's still carrying injury and off-form. I ****** hate this place at times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, Bridge of Djoum said: ''Not only is he shite''? He's not ''shite''. He's still carrying injury and off-form. I ****** hate this place at times. Why is he still playing with the injury he is carrying? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridge of Djoum Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 Just now, Jambof3tornado said: Why is he still playing with the injury he is carrying? I'm not in with the staff at the club, mate. I've no idea. Please carry on and wildly speculate if you must. Just my opinion he doesn't look fit and strong as he did previously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 A couple of weeks out the team to rest is needed. Our season is basically over now anyway - the semi is all that matters. I'd rather have a fit and on point Berra back for ICT than this half fit mess we've got just now. He's a shadow of the player that started the season and its doing the team, his fitness and confidence no good to be being played. Dikamona and Souttar for the next week at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WageThief Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, Bridge of Djoum said: ''Not only is he shite''? He's not ''shite''. He's still carrying injury and off-form. I ****** hate this place at times. I agree but the worst post of the lot is the one comparing him to Oshaniwa and the "standard quality of Hearts scouting system". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It should have been ten Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 We’re missing Jimmy Dunne big time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridge of Djoum Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 1 minute ago, WageThief said: I agree but the worst post of the lot is the one comparing him to Oshaniwa and the "standard quality of Hearts scouting system". It's people who struggle to express what they feel in full sentences so just push to the end of the spectrum in frustration. IMO opinion, Berra being the warrior he is has asked to come back early, perhaps because Naismith, our other big influence, has also been injured. A sort of misguided loyalty. I don't think CL, with his knowledge of being an excellent CH AND with his personal injury history, has pushed Berra back in. Christophe needs a rest and perhaps another injury assessment. We have Dikamona who is an able deputy. Folk writing him off, saying he's ''shite'' and comments bordering on moronic are best ignored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridge of Djoum Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 10 minutes ago, OTT said: A couple of weeks out the team to rest is needed. Our season is basically over now anyway - the semi is all that matters. I'd rather have a fit and on point Berra back for ICT than this half fit mess we've got just now. He's a shadow of the player that started the season and its doing the team, his fitness and confidence no good to be being played. Dikamona and Souttar for the next week at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 49 minutes ago, Bridge of Djoum said: I'm not in with the staff at the club, mate. I've no idea. Please carry on and wildly speculate if you must. Just my opinion he doesn't look fit and strong as he did previously. You are the one speculating that he's carrying an injury chap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridge of Djoum Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 Just now, Jambof3tornado said: You are the one speculating that he's carrying an injury chap. He's clearly limping. People who limp are generally carrying some kind of injury, chap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Bridge of Djoum said: He's clearly limping. People who limp are generally carrying some kind of injury, chap. Maybe they just fixed him wrong and he's been left with one leg shorter than the other.......chap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 Just not himself at all, was he rushed back like all the others? The January break didnt help. Still limping and not vocal at all on the pitch, something is really wrong but who knows what the problem is and how to fix it. Meanwhile he was given a new contract until 2021. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 The one position we do have cover in. Another strange decision by the management. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theme From Sparta F.C. Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 23 hours ago, Mundaydog said: I still think we will be told he is has to go under the knife again and he is battling through pain to get to the end of the season. I think you're bang on the money there. Has hasn't looked 100% fit since he came back from his injury. And i fear we rushed him back too soon? We were all desperate to have him back in the team. But he looks like he's paying the price for that now....?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mundaydog Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 18 hours ago, Theme From Sparta F.C. said: I think you're bang on the money there. Has hasn't looked 100% fit since he came back from his injury. And i fear we rushed him back too soon? We were all desperate to have him back in the team. But he looks like he's paying the price for that now....?? Yup, totally agree, I said the same after Jamie Walker came back from injury a few years ago. Berra was never the fastest pre-injury but he looks like he is running in mud now, like he can't stretch the leg out properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amadjambo Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 Berra’s nowhere near finished. He’s struggled a bit since coming back from injury, but that’s far from being finished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 Came back far too early can see it is affecting his game massively i know we are in a semi final and i probably look like a dour person saying this but i cant wait for this season to end hopefully we still have a few magic moments before the end of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartsfc_fan Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 Rushed back from injury. Much like Naismith was. Much like Haring was. These guys haven't turned bad overnight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Dunphy Posted March 18, 2019 Author Share Posted March 18, 2019 On 17/03/2019 at 12:14, Bridge of Djoum said: ''Not only is he shite''? He's not ''shite''. He's still carrying injury and off-form. I ****** hate this place at times. So he’s continuing to play through an injury that is proving to be to the detriment of the team? Dreadful form for the club captain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridge of Djoum Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Phil Dunphy said: So he’s continuing to play through an injury that is proving to be to the detriment of the team? Dreadful form for the club captain. I agree. If he's not fit he shouldn't be playing. He's still not ''shite'', though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Dunphy Posted March 18, 2019 Author Share Posted March 18, 2019 (edited) On 17/03/2019 at 12:14, Bridge of Djoum said: ''Not only is he shite''? He's not ''shite''. He's still carrying injury and off-form. I ****** hate this place at times. Double post. Edited March 18, 2019 by Phil Dunphy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 6 minutes ago, heartsfc_fan said: Rushed back from injury. Much like Naismith was. Much like Haring was. These guys haven't turned bad overnight. Spot on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Dunphy Posted March 18, 2019 Author Share Posted March 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Bridge of Djoum said: I agree. If he's not fit he shouldn't be playing. He's still not ''shite'', though. He’s been ****ing dreadful recently. He should be taken out of the side for that reason alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridge of Djoum Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 Just now, Phil Dunphy said: He’s been ****ing dreadful recently. He should be taken out of the side for that reason alone. I've said as much for a few weeks now. We have ample cover, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDSK Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 On 17/03/2019 at 12:29, It should have been ten said: We’re missing Jimmy Dunne big time I wonder if we’ll look into taking him on loan again if Souttar leaves in the Summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It should have been ten Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 14 minutes ago, RDSK said: I wonder if we’ll look into taking him on loan again if Souttar leaves in the Summer. It’s a thought. Would be delighted to see him back here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Treasurer Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 I certainly don't agree with the "he's finished" chat, far from it, but there is clearly something not right since he came back from injury. As has been pointed out he does seem to be walking awkwardly, maybe even limping before a ball is kicked. He's never had a serious injury in his career before, so if he's come back not 100% then it could be having an effect both physically and mentally. Fully fit he is inspirational but just now, while it's to be admired that he wants to be out there, he's doing neither the team or himself any favours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfhearts Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 Folk wanting to rely on Dikamona need to wisen up, Christophe just needs a wee break I am confident he will come back strong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Quaresma Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 On 16/03/2019 at 18:01, Clark Griswold said: He’s been rushed back too soon after his injury, I think he needs a rest and a good preseason and he’ll be back to his normal self. Here’s hoping anyway. This Thread is honking though Poison Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skacelsid Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 Berra has struggled since coming back. Hopefully the International break will give him a chance to complete his recuperation, assuming our fitness department allow him some rest with possibly some light training, that is their call, we have to assume he is in good hands. If Christophe gets back to a good level of fitness and tested against top six teams it then may be a time to judge and revisit a thread that is a bit unfair at this time for a player desperate to help out. Dikamona and Shaughnessy probably could have been given more game time to ease Berra in without really weakening us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 On 16/03/2019 at 22:55, obua said: Berra Naismith joint player manager,they wouldn’t play much .Even if levein was dof it would be better than the current management. You want Naismith to play fewer games? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obua Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 8 minutes ago, Darren said: You want Naismith to play fewer games? It would depend on how his knee holds up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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