Pants Shaton Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 If there was a general election tomorrow, who would you vote for? (Not taking into account tactical voting related to constituencies - just the party you currently favour) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upthehill Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 Conservative, and I'll be backing a winner aswell. David Cameron will be in 10 Downing Street with a massive majority. Solidaritys leader will be in jail at the time, so they are unlikely to stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boaby Ewing Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 Whoever the SNP candidate for Hammersmith and Fulham is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incompetnce Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 Conservative. /cheer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pants Shaton Posted June 27, 2008 Author Share Posted June 27, 2008 Whoever the SNP candidate for Hammersmith and Fulham is. I'll mark you down as 'Respect' instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 Conservative, and I'll be backing a winner aswell. David Cameron will be in 10 Downing Street with a massive majority. Solidaritys leader will be in jail at the time, so they are unlikely to stand. Geniune question - do you think that a Tory Govt at Westminster will hasten Scottish Independence? Personally, I think it will. People up here still associate the Tories with Thatcher and all that that entails. What i also can't understand is why people shift from New Labour to Tory so quickly. What are the Tories policies? I genuinely do not know. Actually i think I can understand why people flit so easily as New Labour are in effect a Tory party anyway. I don;t think that the Tories would make much of a difference and i worry for public services if they were to ever get control. Slightly heartened by the fact that a lot of those services are devolved to the Scottish Parliament so at least Osborne can't strangle their funding from Westminster. Who would I vote for? Not sure. Probably, and it pains me to say it due to the party name, but probably Green. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Grimes Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 Geniune question - do you think that a Tory Govt at Westminster will hasten Scottish Independence? Personally, I think it will. People up here still associate the Tories with Thatcher and all that that entails. I'd agree that it will. Its also the reason that the Independence referendum is planned for 2010 What i also can't understand is why people shift from New Labour to Tory so quickly. What are the Tories policies? I genuinely do not know. Actually i think I can understand why people flit so easily as New Labour are in effect a Tory party anyway. Probably because it still seen as a 2 party system down south. The Libs won't repeat their share of the vote & New Labour isn't a massive leap from the Torys. I don;t think that the Tories would make much of a difference and i worry for public services if they were to ever get control. Slightly heartened by the fact that a lot of those services are devolved to the Scottish Parliament so at least Osborne can't strangle their funding from Westminster. Who would I vote for? Not sure. Probably, and it pains me to say it due to the party name, but probably Green. In an independent Scotland I'd be voting alongside you. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miller Jambo 60 Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 Conservative, and I'll be backing a winner aswell. David Cameron will be in 10 Downing Street with a massive majority. Solidaritys leader will be in jail at the time, so they are unlikely to stand. Oh dear still some tories left. Cameron must be the biggest muppet since cow thatcher. I voted SNP as i feel having a pop at freedom could be a wise move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWL Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 Val Doonicans rocking chair party with Paddy McGintys Goat as their campaign theme song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helzibob Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 The one thing I won't be voting is conservative. I remember the balls up they made of it last time. Bloody Thatcher and Major! Depends where I am living. In Manchester at the moment so don't get a SNP option but should be moving back home before the general election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Harris Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 there isn't really a party that fits me, I'm a confused sort with an idiosyncratic mix of politics. only thing I can say for certain is I won't be voting for labour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 I hope that someone will put forward a case for repealing just about everything carried out by Blair and Brown in the past 11 years. An end to ever increasing taxation being squandered without any responsibility. A party who will end the killing of our soldiers and innocent civilians in wars which have no hope of being won. A party who will restore the civil liberties of the public, end the ID cards project and work to repair the damage done to the constitution in the past 11 years. I am not sure that there are any parties with the courage to do these things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upthehill Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 Geniune question - do you think that a Tory Govt at Westminster will hasten Scottish Independence? Personally, I think it will. People up here still associate the Tories with Thatcher and all that that entails. What i also can't understand is why people shift from New Labour to Tory so quickly. What are the Tories policies? I genuinely do not know. Actually i think I can understand why people flit so easily as New Labour are in effect a Tory party anyway. I don;t think that the Tories would make much of a difference and i worry for public services if they were to ever get control. Slightly heartened by the fact that a lot of those services are devolved to the Scottish Parliament so at least Osborne can't strangle their funding from Westminster. Who would I vote for? Not sure. Probably, and it pains me to say it due to the party name, but probably Green. No, I think it will be good for Scotland, and slow the slide towards independance. The people in Scotland see SNP as an alternative to Labour, and that's why they done so well in the election. It's not because of a great appetite for independance. I'm confident that people will see the Conservatives doing well in Government and providing a positive change after Labours catastrophies & the independance referendum in 2010 will be won by the unionists who will have a large majority. That puts it to bed then for a number of years. The timing is actually good for the Unionists. All parties have a honeymoon period when they first come to power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 No, I think it will be good for Scotland, and slow the slide towards independance. The people in Scotland see SNP as an alternative to Labour, and that's why they done so well in the election. It's not because of a great appetite for independance. I'm confident that people will see the Conservatives doing well in Government and providing a positive change after Labours catastrophies & the independance referendum in 2010 will be won by the unionists who will have a large majority. That puts it to bed then for a number of years. The timing is actually good for the Unionists. All parties have a honeymoon period when they first come to power. Bless. As I said earlier, most of the bits where the Tories can change things are devolved matters so regardless of how David "Dave" Cameron and his chums deal with them in England the effect on Scotland may well be negligible. I also think that in Scottish terms people will not jump from Labour to Tory as they will/do/have done in England. It is a seperate political culture. If they did so it would be a minority Tory Scottish Govt, not an SNP incumbent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Seeger Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 Conservative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEILY1874 Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 Thıs poll looks lıke turnıng out the same way as any other 'who would you vote for' thread that ıve ever seen on here. Yet another SNP vıctory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upthehill Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 Thıs poll looks lıke turnıng out the same way as any other 'who would you vote for' thread that ıve ever seen on here. Yet another SNP vıctory. Yet Conservatives are the strong second now, not Labour, whos vote has collapsed. We'll soon gallup past you Nationalists aswell... just in time for the only poll that counts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambos are go! Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 The Labour Party may be down but it is not out. If it can steer us through the current problems and avoid a recession its record of economic competence will be restored. Thirteen years of continuous economic growth is unparralled in modern times. At the end of the day people people vote through their pockets so Labour can come back. Put another way 'Its the economy stupid' that allowed Bill Clinton to recover from an almost as bad position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 The prospect of the tories gaining power sends a shiver up my spine.It took years to recover from the mess they left us in the last time. That said though"new labour"have been a bit ***** also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 Yet Conservatives are the strong second now, not Labour, whos vote has collapsed. We'll soon gallup past you Nationalists aswell... just in time for the only poll that counts... The Tories will easily get in down South next time, but they will never get in up here. Lets face it though, Labour have cocked everything up for themselves and they shouldn't be hard to beat, it's going to be a bit like Berwick Rangers v Barcelona, so people wont really be voting Tory, they will be voting for whoever can get rid of the muppet who's making a complete ****** of running our country right now, and the only sensible vote to definitely get rid of them would to be voting Tory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobblers Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 I'll be voting labour. I think they've made a few mistakes in the last couple of years but I can also remember what it was like under the Tories and I'd still prefer the current bunch. I suspect my vote will be wasted as towns like Northampton will not vote labour this time round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydug Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 I'm confident that people will see the Conservatives doing well in Government and providing a positive change after Labours catastrophies & the independance referendum in 2010 will be won by the unionists who will have a large majority. That puts it to bed then for a number of years. The timing is actually good for the Unionists. More chance of Hibs winning the Scottish Cup next year and almost as scaryIMO:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 I'll be voting labour. I think they've made a few mistakes in the last couple of years but I can also remember what it was like under the Tories and I'd still prefer the current bunch. I suspect my vote will be wasted as towns like Northampton will not vote labour this time round. Labour under Brown is like Hearts under Vlad, a rudderless ship in stormy seas! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Throwback Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 No, I think it will be good for Scotland, and slow the slide towards independance. The people in Scotland see SNP as an alternative to Labour, and that's why they done so well in the election. It's not because of a great appetite for independance. I'm confident that people will see the Conservatives doing well in Government and providing a positive change after Labours catastrophies & the independance referendum in 2010 will be won by the unionists who will have a large majority. That puts it to bed then for a number of years. The timing is actually good for the Unionists. All parties have a honeymoon period when they first come to power. There is an appetite for independence...a realisation that we no longer need to go cap in hand to Westminster! Dream on r.e. 2010, Salmond has it wrapped up ffs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
$ilvery_Moon Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 Traditionally Labour but now whoever at the time is most likely to keep the SNP out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammyheart Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 SNP for me they`re the only ones that will stand up for Scotland . Labour has been in control of Scotland for donkey years but we always seemed to have the worst record at most things eg.heart disease ,drink, poverty, knife crime, overweight.etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobblers Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 Labour under Brown is like Hearts under Vlad, a rudderless ship in stormy seas! I know what you mean but I still support Hearts. I suppose I'm voting more for what the pary should be about rather than the leader. I'd rather not vote than vote for the Conservatives or Liberals and I've always been ****ed off with people who don't use their vote. With a bit of luck the Monster Raving Looney Party might have a local candidate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobblers Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 SNP for me they`re the only ones that will stand up for Scotland . Labour has been in control of Scotland for donkey years but we always seemed to have the worst record at most things eg.heart disease ,drink, poverty, knife crime, overweight.etc Sorry but your not really blaming these on the Labour party surely. They may be responsible for many things but surely these problems are not down to their policies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corstojohn Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 Have never and never will vote Tory. Usually vote Labour but they are so dire at the moment that it would probably be Lib/Dems. I would vote SNP but I dont think independence will work as I dont think Salmond is the man to take us there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Vulture Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 If I lived in Scotland I would vote SNP. When I lived in England I voted Liberal as the local party were very active and did alot of good in the community. Labour started off very well (e.g. introducing a minimum wage, bringing peace and prosperity to N. Ireland) but then they backed the yanks to the hilt in Iraq and somehow people still voted for them. Could never vote Tory because of the Margaret Thatcher. Her boom-bust short term economic policies and the way she treated British industry from the miners to the steelworkers was disgusting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Mugabe Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 The Tories are about the nearest thing to me on the political spectrum. There's no chance they'd get in up here though. Much too many socialists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 The Labour Party may be down but it is not out. If it can steer us through the current problems and avoid a recession its record of economic competence will be restored. Thirteen years of continuous economic growth is unparralled in modern times. At the end of the day people people vote through their pockets so Labour can come back. Put another way 'Its the economy stupid' that allowed Bill Clinton to recover from an almost as bad position. The true damage that Brown has caused to the UK economy has barely even started to be felt now. The storm which is about to break will make his current horrendous popularity ratings appear like a light shower. He has been the most disastrous Chancellor of modern times. The damage caused by Brown will take many years of hard times to fix. The only hope for the Labour Party is to disown absolutely everything Brown did. They need to bring in a new leader, bin the Darling/Alexander/Milliband supplicants. And they need to ridicule Brown. And completely change their economic policies from tax/debt and squander. As well as restoring the civil liberties and damage done to the constitution. There are few with the courage to do this though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian039 Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 bit on the news this morning that wendy alexander has chucked it alex salmond must be gutted he cant wynd her up any more she always looks as tho she is about to burst into tears Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinross jambo Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 Have never and never will vote Tory. Usually vote Labour but they are so dire at the moment that it would probably be Lib/Dems. I would vote SNP but I dont think independence will work as I dont think Salmond is the man to take us there. i would rather not vote at all than vote for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 Scares the **** out of me just looking at all of them because i really don't have faith in any of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigC Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 I hope that someone will put forward a case for repealing just about everything carried out by Blair and Brown in the past 11 years. An end to ever increasing taxation being squandered without any responsibility. A party who will end the killing of our soldiers and innocent civilians in wars which have no hope of being won. A party who will restore the civil liberties of the public, end the ID cards project and work to repair the damage done to the constitution in the past 11 years. I am not sure that there are any parties with the courage to do these things. I am concerned with many of the same issues. For me the Liberal Democrats are far from perfect but they are the closest we've go tto a party that will do what you say above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Throwback Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 Have never and never will vote Tory. Usually vote Labour but they are so dire at the moment that it would probably be Lib/Dems. I would vote SNP but I dont think independence will work as I dont think Salmond is the man to take us there. You have to be kidding....Salmond is in a league of his own, like him or loathe him, you must see that? Out of interest, why do you think independence won't work?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pants Shaton Posted June 28, 2008 Author Share Posted June 28, 2008 Are any of the 5 BNP voters willing to explain the reasons behind that decision? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammyheart Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 Sorry but your not really blaming these on the Labour party surely. They may be responsible for many things but surely these problems are not down to their policies. No I`m not but I remember the Tories was not very Scotland friendly either but Labour hasn`t done enough to rectify things have they when they had the power to do so.(Granted devolution and the smokin ban) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Boy Named Crow Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 I am concerned with many of the same issues. For me the Liberal Democrats are far from perfect but they are the closest we've go tto a party that will do what you say above. The problem I have with the Lib Dems is that they are not really a party. They can proclaim to beleive one thing at a national level (eg promoting renewable energy) but do the complete opposite at thelocal level (oppose wind farms). Ilike to think of them more as a franchise - you buy the name and attach whatever set of beliefs you fancy. That clown Nichol Stevens has really shot their cedibility in Scotland too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makween Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 I'm not convinced that I'd vote at all. I'd probably spoil the ballot paper if I could even be arsed going to the polling station. Failing that, anyone but SNP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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