Beast Boy Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 We’re Hibernians the first top-flight Scottish club to fold and slither back pretending to be the same club? Ibe read a few different views on this. Wanted to see what the clues up old librarian types thought. Cheers Kickback. Be gentle with me... ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor jambo Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 "we're Hibernians" ? That is one hell of a confession Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 We most certainly are NOT Hibs, nor are we the first Sevco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
...a bit disco Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Dick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted March 11, 2019 Author Share Posted March 11, 2019 Mods, can you correct my autocorrection in the OP. Thanks. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Heartsofgold Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, Glib and Shameless Crier said: Mods, can you correct my autocorrection in the OP. Thanks. ? Schoolboy error on this forum mate!!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted March 11, 2019 Author Share Posted March 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Heartsofgold said: Schoolboy error on this forum mate!!? Face like fizz with the Dunce Cap on. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, Glib and Shameless Crier said: Face like fizz with the Dunce Cap on. ? Are you whereing the cap on your head? I should of thought so. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Who is this Ibe? We should be told. 30 minutes ago, Glib and Shameless Crier said: We’re Hibernians the first top-flight Scottish club to fold and slither back pretending to be the same club? Ibe read a few different views on this. Wanted to see what the clues up old librarian types thought. Cheers Kickback. Be gentle with me... ? Who is this Ibe? We should be told! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted March 11, 2019 Author Share Posted March 11, 2019 Well frankly, I think you are all a bit rotten. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonjambo Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Yes, Hibs went out of business in 1891 and resumed as a new club in 1892. As their Wiki pages openly admits ... "Despite this interruption, the club today views the period since 1875 as one continued history and therefore counts the honours won between 1875 and 1891, including the 1887 Scottish Cup" GC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonjambo Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Although the claim to be the first might lie a little closer to home: see p.27-28 of Mackie's "The Hearts" GC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted March 11, 2019 Author Share Posted March 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, londonjambo said: Yes, Hibs went out of business in 1891 and resumed as a new club in 1892. As their Wiki pages openly admits ... "Despite this interruption, the club today views the period since 1875 as one continued history and therefore counts the honours won between 1875 and 1891, including the 1887 Scottish Cup" GC Just now, londonjambo said: Although the claim to be the first might lie a little closer to home: see p.27-28 of Mackie's "The Hearts" GC That did occur to me GC. I remember there was a ‘blip’ on our own map. Still, I digress... let’s get back to the autocorrect hilarity! ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inch Hearts Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Can’t wait for the Patrick march tomorrow tbh ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 1875 - Hibernians are founded 1887 - They win the Scottish Cup 1890 - They play their last game after Celtic pinch half their players. 1892 - A new club called Hibernian is formed 1893 - Admitted to 2nd Division 1894 - Win it but aren't allowed promotion 1895 - Win it again and we vote to allow the into the first division 1896 - We gub them 3-1 in the Scottish Cup Final to commence the natural order In summary, Hibernian were formed in 1892 and have pretty much been our bitches ever since... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, Inch Hearts said: Can’t wait for the Patrick march tomorrow tbh ? The one from Fir Park? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted March 11, 2019 Author Share Posted March 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Inch Hearts said: Can’t wait for the Patrick march tomorrow tbh ? Me ether. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
campbell Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 4 hours ago, londonjambo said: Although the claim to be the first might lie a little closer to home: see p.27-28 of Mackie's "The Hearts" GC Care to elaborate on this as I honestly didn’t know of anything like that happening to us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott herbertson Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, campbell said: Care to elaborate on this as I honestly didn’t know of anything like that happening to us To save Gary's typing fingers Edited March 11, 2019 by scott herbertson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
campbell Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 1 hour ago, scott herbertson said: To save Gary's typing fingers Thank you very much, I would say this is different from what hibs done as we don’t claim to be formed in 1873 and don’t claim to have silverware from a club that folded unlike Hibs and Rangers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannymack Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 The very first photograph of the Heart of Mid-Lothian Football Club in 1875, white shirts red heart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannymack Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Possibly the 2nd photograph of the errrr Heart of Mid-Lothian Football Club/Mid-Lothian Foot Ball Club. Red, White and Blue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portobellojambo1 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 7 hours ago, Glib and Shameless Crier said: We’re Hibernians the first top-flight Scottish club to fold and slither back pretending to be the same club? Ibe read a few different views on this. Wanted to see what the clues up old librarian types thought. Cheers Kickback. Be gentle with me... ? They did fold and were also the first club to be barred from a competition, to do with refusing to play anyone who wasn't a Roman Catholic of Irish descent I believe (think there was quite a substantial Irish community in Edinburgh at that time). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 8 hours ago, Glib and Shameless Crier said: We’re Hibernians the first top-flight Scottish club to fold and slither back pretending to be the same club? Ibe read a few different views on this. Wanted to see what the clues up old librarian types thought. Cheers Kickback. Be gentle with me... ? It depends how you look at it. A company is merely a judicial person, a fiction in fact, that UK company law allows to act in a certain manner. The company owning Rangers assets was liquidated. A new company was set up and this company bought the assets. It isn't really that different to a change of ownership. It raises a more philosophical question of what makes a football club. Often people say 'the fans are the club', in that instance the owner of the assets of the club matters little if they are safeguarded for future generations. I'm not sure many on here appreciate how close we came to being liquidated ourselves. To go into administration and survive is the company equivalent of having a terminal illness and then making a miraculous recovery. Anyway, FTH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott herbertson Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 3 hours ago, campbell said: Thank you very much, I would say this is different from what hibs done as we don’t claim to be formed in 1873 and don’t claim to have silverware from a club that folded unlike Hibs and Rangers I agree But I’m not a lawyer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Mikey Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 2 hours ago, dannymack said: The very first photograph of the Heart of Mid-Lothian Football Club in 1875, white shirts red heart. Superb photo. My first two thoughts are how old they look for young men and that Callum Paterson would fit right in with his D'Artagnon facial hair! As for the poses!!! I dare not comment in fear of upsetting the 'politically correct'. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3fingersreid Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 33 minutes ago, Wee Mikey said: Superb photo. My first two thoughts are how old they look for young men and that Callum Paterson would fit right in with his D'Artagnon facial hair! As for the poses!!! I dare not comment in fear of upsetting the 'politically correct'. ? What are you implying about my great grandad and his teammates pose ? ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Mikey Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 8 minutes ago, 3fingersreid said: What are you implying about my great grandad and his teammates pose ? ? Nothin' ... honestly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3fingersreid Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Just now, Wee Mikey said: Nothin' ... honestly! ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Mikey Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 These were the days. ? https://dai.ly/x2pl58b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackLadd Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 I can see they had no ground and didn't play in 1891-92 before moving to Easter Road. Quite a grey area but it wasn't a professional league in Scotland until 1893 so clubs were not footballing companies until then. Rangers Football Club was an 1899 incorporated club and company that died in 2012. No doubting that one. Companies House shows they are Sevco Scotland renamed The Rangers Football Club PLC. 14th June 2012. Rangers Football Club no longer exits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Well it would be in keeping with their fanatical obsession to have "firsts" associated with their disgusting club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted March 12, 2019 Author Share Posted March 12, 2019 So Hibernian Football Club, est: 1892 then. The original sectarian football club The original zombies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadj Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 17 hours ago, Morgan said: Are you whereing the cap on your head? I should of thought so. ? ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 11 hours ago, dannymack said: The very first photograph of the Heart of Mid-Lothian Football Club in 1875, white shirts red heart. I'm glad we ditched the shirts that featured a large penis pointing down the chest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martoon Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 13 hours ago, dannymack said: The very first photograph of the Heart of Mid-Lothian Football Club in 1875, white shirts red heart. You'd think a professional photographer would have noticed the unfortunately placed football. Lovely photo, though. I doubt any of those fine lads even considered that, 140+ years later, their club would still be playing and be so loved by the people of Edinburgh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 2 hours ago, sadj said: ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iwasthere1954 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 5 hours ago, Ray Gin said: I'm glad we ditched the shirts that featured a large penis pointing down the chest. Didn't notice that at first. Now I can't stop laughing. Brilliant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libertarian Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 16 hours ago, dannymack said: Possibly the 2nd photograph of the errrr Heart of Mid-Lothian Football Club/Mid-Lothian Foot Ball Club. Red, White and Blue. When does this photograph date from? I may be wrong but did St Andrews not play in red white and blue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannymack Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, Hearts Daft said: When does this photograph date from? I may be wrong but did St Andrews not play in red white and blue? Season 1876/77 according to some accounts. Love the story in ' The Hearts ' by Albert Mackie from one of our former players John Cochrane on how we came about the famous maroon/marone, The navy blue of St.Andrew FC and the red, white and blue of MFBC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannymack Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 3 hours ago, martoon said: You'd think a professional photographer would have noticed the unfortunately placed football. Lovely photo, though. I doubt any of those fine lads even considered that, 140+ years later, their club would still be playing and be so loved by the people of Edinburgh. Couldn't have put that any better. That's why we should remember these gentlemen with respect, pride and great fondness, The Heart of Mid-Lothian Football Club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperstarSteve Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Celtic left hibs to rot. We gave them players and stitched badges on their shirts as well as setting up friendly games. They died. Purely by being too nice and too trusting. Any real hibs man despises Celtic and the current brotherly love between both clubs makes them sick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martoon Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 32 minutes ago, dannymack said: Couldn't have put that any better. That's why we should remember these gentlemen with respect, pride and great fondness, The Heart of Mid-Lothian Football Club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martoon Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 13 minutes ago, SuperstarSteve said: Celtic left hibs to rot. We gave them players and stitched badges on their shirts as well as setting up friendly games. They died. Purely by being too nice and too trusting. Any real hibs man despises Celtic and the current brotherly love between both clubs makes them sick. Felt a bit queasy myself at times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 6 hours ago, Ray Gin said: I'm glad we ditched the shirts that featured a large penis pointing down the chest. I think the Foundation shirt was a subtle tribute... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperstarSteve Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 36 minutes ago, martoon said: Felt a bit queasy myself at times. We have a similar brotherly love with the huns, queasy would be an understatement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted March 12, 2019 Author Share Posted March 12, 2019 1 hour ago, SuperstarSteve said: We have a similar brotherly love with the huns, queasy would be an understatement. That only exists for a handful of fans. Our clubs are not cosy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3fingersreid Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 (edited) 18 hours ago, Glib and Shameless Crier said: So Hibernian Football Club, est: 1892 then. The original sectarian football club The original zombies Edited March 13, 2019 by 3fingersreid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3fingersreid Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 18 hours ago, Glib and Shameless Crier said: So Hibernian Football Club, est: 1892 then. The original sectarian football club The original zombies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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