Sherbet Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 Got to.pay for the new stand cock ups !! Also ,why refer to Tories as vermin Another form of sectariasm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartsfc_fan Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 What date did they go on sale last year? My credit card statement online only goes back 6 months but from memory I renewed in May but season tickets had been on sale for a fair few weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 The keybdate isn’t when they go on sale it’s when the unsold seats are released. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Sherbet said: Got to.pay for the new stand cock ups !! Also ,why refer to Tories as vermin Another form of sectariasm REEKING. FTH. List the cock ups in the new stand. Politics aint got nothing to do with sectarianism. Like father and son. FTH, VERMIN. Edited March 1, 2019 by maroonlegions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTweedy Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 On 27/02/2019 at 17:30, Paolo said: A bit too early for my liking, but I do not think there is anything sinister in it. I'm thinking there's a fair possibility that putting them on sale now brings in the funds required to press on with work to complete the fitout of the rest of the main stand (or at least the bits they now have solid plans for) as early as possible to start generating additional revenue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 I see theres already a notification on the etickets account to renew for 2019/20. Clicking upon it leads nowhere though other than to the main tickets page. Tease. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartsfc_fan Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 I wouldn't be too fussed paying an extra £20 on last year's price but Hearts have to be reasonable with what of any price increase they do. This season still could be great (3rd place and Scottish cup), but then we could still end 7th or 8th ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherbet Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 Could be bottom six and quarter final. Unless the product improves ticket sales will fall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Fox Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 Schtt already! I’ve not even used this years yet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 45 minutes ago, Sherbet said: Could be bottom six and quarter final. Unless the product improves ticket sales will fall Fair assumption on how Hibs season could pan out . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMJ_1874 Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 I’ve already got mine. Paid for two years in advance last year as the club needed the money. No ST bills for me this year but will renew for next season regardless. We’ll follow the Hearts and you can’t go wrong! ???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 2 hours ago, Artful Dodger said: Firstly. Its doesnt matter at all when they put them on sale if there is a reasonable time limit if you want to keep your seat. Secondly. Not a chance in hell we're bringing forward the sale to budget and put more shackles in the bank for no good reason. My guess would be a gauge on how many renew instantly so that the away end can be restricted. Thirdly. Trust the custodians of our great club. Signing on fees for the new improved signings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Fox Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 Feels rather early - not sure when they normally go sale. If sooner than usual it might indicate a need for cash at earliest opportunity. I’ll probably renew again although I must confess that since I relocated from the Gorgie to Roseburn stand I’ve still to sit in ‘my seat’! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie The Eagle Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 On 28/02/2019 at 17:34, mitch41 said: Just tell me when they go on sale and i'll be first in the queue to renew. I love my seat as i can get to the pie stall in 30 seconds. ?? Is that you Pieman? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch41 Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 2 hours ago, Eddie The Eagle said: Is that you Pieman? afraid not E.T.E. i love a pie ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 Did Vlad ever put them on sale this early? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 Feels early, although that may be because we are still in the cup for a change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2 Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 If the number begins with a 51, we should be happy, £512 looks like a good call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1986 Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 Folk taking the hump about the launch date are just moaning for moanings sake. It just means supporters have 5 full months to decide if they want a ST instead of 4 or whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 (edited) Getting some more cash. in before the end of the tax year. Could be away on one but seems like creative accounting to save the club money in some way. Maybe want £1m or to go through this year as we are planning a sale of a player that will create a larger than normal profit next season. £1m goes through this year, we post modest as normal profits and therefor tax. After April, we sell Souttar for let's say £4m We make a bigger profit next season of say £2m, that's allot of tax. If we had the theoretical £1m of St sales before this April, that would be £3m. Tax instead of £2m? The figures are just examples, use any figures. Maybe aye, maybe naw. Edited March 2, 2019 by Olly Lee's left boot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
132goals1958 Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 2 hours ago, Olly Lee's left boot said: Getting some more cash. in before the end of the tax year. Could be away on one but seems like creative accounting to save the club money in some way. Maybe want £1m or to go through this year as we are planning a sale of a player that will create a larger than normal profit next season. £1m goes through this year, we post modest as normal profits and therefor tax. After April, we sell Souttar for let's say £4m We make a bigger profit next season of say £2m, that's allot of tax. If we had the theoretical £1m of St sales before this April, that would be £3m. Tax instead of £2m? The figures are just examples, use any figures. Maybe aye, maybe naw. No way would we contravene the accruals concept which is the primary basic rule of accountancy.Dodgy practices are more suited to Sevco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 45 minutes ago, 132goals1958 said: No way would we contravene the accruals concept which is the primary basic rule of accountancy.Dodgy practices are more suited to Sevco Wouldn't be dodgy at all. Just getting money in this tax year as opposed to next tax year. Nothing dodgy about that. Can't see any other benefit my self. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
132goals1958 Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 7 minutes ago, Olly Lee's left boot said: Wouldn't be dodgy at all. Just getting money in this tax year as opposed to next tax year. Nothing dodgy about that. Can't see any other benefit my self. I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
132goals1958 Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 8 minutes ago, Olly Lee's left boot said: Wouldn't be dodgy at all. Just getting money in this tax year as opposed to next tax year. Nothing dodgy about that. Can't see any other benefit my self. Think the auditors might disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydug Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Olly Lee's left boot said: Getting some more cash. in before the end of the tax year. Could be away on one but seems like creative accounting to save the club money in some way. Maybe want £1m or to go through this year as we are planning a sale of a player that will create a larger than normal profit next season. £1m goes through this year, we post modest as normal profits and therefor tax. After April, we sell Souttar for let's say £4m We make a bigger profit next season of say £2m, that's allot of tax. If we had the theoretical £1m of St sales before this April, that would be £3m. Tax instead of £2m? The figures are just examples, use any figures. Maybe aye, maybe naw. I would call that good business practice. Assuming that is the case. Also assuming no laws are being broken. Edited March 2, 2019 by luckydug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 Don’t see the problem tbh as long as the cut off date isn’t really early. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 11 minutes ago, luckydug said: I would call that good business practice. Assuming that is the case. Also assuming no laws are being broken. Yip, just with difference being April and March. Long term planning, nothing wrong with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 18 minutes ago, 132goals1958 said: Think the auditors might disagree. Wouldn't have thought so, although I'm not 100%. Cash this tax year is in this tax year. Cash next year in next tax year. As long as it's all above board, there would be no issue. Accounts are mibupulated within the law all the time, and quite rightly as well. Simple things like shops stocking up on sugar drinks before the tax right through to working out the ebitda. Nothing wrong with it. Might not be that, but the difference being March / April nigh indicate it's an accounting thing of some sort. Maybe not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
132goals1958 Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 8 minutes ago, Olly Lee's left boot said: Wouldn't have thought so, although I'm not 100%. Cash this tax year is in this tax year. Cash next year in next tax year. As long as it's all above board, there would be no issue. Accounts are mibupulated within the law all the time, and quite rightly as well. Simple things like shops stocking up on sugar drinks before the tax right through to working out the ebitda. Nothing wrong with it. Might not be that, but the difference being March / April nigh indicate it's an accounting thing of some sort. Maybe not. We have to act in accordance with accounting standards that are clearly defined including the recording of income when they are earned as against when they are received. Similarly expenses are recorded when they are incurred and not when they are paid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 20 hours ago, Jambo-Fox said: Feels rather early - not sure when they normally go sale. If sooner than usual it might indicate a need for cash at earliest opportunity. I’ll probably renew again although I must confess that since I relocated from the Gorgie to Roseburn stand I’ve still to sit in ‘my seat’! Bought mine 21st march last year. Think it feels early every year but rarely is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Broo Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 On 28/02/2019 at 17:50, Jamhammer said: I’ll be renewing and praying that Stadler and Waldorf, who sit behind me don’t Lower section B by any chance??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamhammer Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 27 minutes ago, The Broo said: Lower section B by any chance??? How did you guess? ? “This team’s rubbish”! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Broo Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 6 minutes ago, Jamhammer said: How did you guess? ? “This team’s rubbish”! Ha ha, ‘this team’s rubbish” closely followed by berating a Hearts player for not being perfect!! You might well sit next to me - when I’m there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamhammer Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 11 minutes ago, The Broo said: Ha ha, ‘this team’s rubbish” closely followed by berating a Hearts player for not being perfect!! You might well sit next to me - when I’m there! Combined with ”Get it forward” closely followed by ”FFS who’s that tae”? Aye roll on 2919-2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, 132goals1958 said: We have to act in accordance with accounting standards that are clearly defined including the recording of income when they are earned as against when they are received. Similarly expenses are recorded when they are incurred and not when they are paid So it could be an accounting thing then? Folk buying outright and the first payments would be included in this years financials. Edited March 2, 2019 by Olly Lee's left boot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Olly Lee's left boot said: So it could be an accounting thing then? Folk buying outright and the first payments would be included in this years financials. I doubt it’s a tax thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
132goals1958 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 9 hours ago, Olly Lee's left boot said: So it could be an accounting thing then? Folk buying outright and the first payments would be included in this years financials. Basically if we receive income prior to the financial year to which it relates it helps the immediate cash flow but from an accounting perspective it must be recorded in the financial year to which it applies.As far as corporation tax is concerned I think we can set prior year losses against any future profits.I don’t know to what extent but I am sure Football First will know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 10 hours ago, davemclaren said: I doubt it’s a tax thing. Just an idea, especially if we were planning on a big sale that would increase our revenue and profit next season. Maybe not but tbh I see no benefit at all from doing moving from April to March unless we were cash poor and struggling, this can't be the case. It could be just to give the fans more time, but when has a club, any club done anything without some kind of gain financially. Maybe I talk shite, who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull's-eye Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 (edited) Maybe its a fantastic gesture by the club to give supporters plenty of time to get the funds together with little impact on their day to day budget. Maybe. Edited March 3, 2019 by Artful Dodger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Women's team need urgent funding for sports bras, nap. ? ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
132goals1958 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 10 minutes ago, Olly Lee's left boot said: Just an idea, especially if we were planning on a big sale that would increase our revenue and profit next season. Maybe not but tbh I see no benefit at all from doing moving from April to March unless we were cash poor and struggling, this can't be the case. It could be just to give the fans more time, but when has a club, any club done anything without some kind of gain financially. Maybe I talk shite, who knows. An early assessment of projected season ticket sales could help budgetary assumptions in terms of recruitment and new contract deals. A tad optimistic I know but if there was a boost on last year we could maybe get round to an early restriction on tickets for the bigot brothers. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 22 minutes ago, Olly Lee's left boot said: Just an idea, especially if we were planning on a big sale that would increase our revenue and profit next season. Maybe not but tbh I see no benefit at all from doing moving from April to March unless we were cash poor and struggling, this can't be the case. It could be just to give the fans more time, but when has a club, any club done anything without some kind of gain financially. Maybe I talk shite, who knows. Is Hearts financial year actually lined up with the tax year? I thought it ran to end June but could be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Just now, davemclaren said: Is Hearts financial year actually lined up with the tax year? I thought it ran to end June but could be wrong. Could be, but for tax purposes it's still April surely? Many companies have a different financial year but don't think hrmc change? I could be talking absolute shite, it was just an idea as I can't think of any other reason other than giving fans more notice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
132goals1958 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 7 minutes ago, davemclaren said: Is Hearts financial year actually lined up with the tax year? I thought it ran to end June but could be wrong. You are correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 7 minutes ago, Olly Lee's left boot said: Could be, but for tax purposes it's still April surely? Many companies have a different financial year but don't think hrmc change? I could be talking absolute shite, it was just an idea as I can't think of any other reason other than giving fans more notice. No, corporation tax is calculated on the company accounting year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 26 minutes ago, davemclaren said: No, corporation tax is calculated on the company accounting year. My theory is ****ed then. Allot of time wasted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 5 minutes ago, Olly Lee's left boot said: My theory is ****ed then. Allot of time wasted. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
132goals1958 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 9 minutes ago, Olly Lee's left boot said: My theory is ****ed then. Allot of time wasted. Not really --- It is good to stimulate the mind. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 10 minutes ago, 132goals1958 said: Not really --- It is good to stimulate the mind. ? Correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 (edited) Is it confirmed that the prices will go up this year and is there any news on a standing section Edited March 3, 2019 by Josh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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