milky_26 Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 republicans are trying to get a bill through that would ban palestinians from entering america and could even deport those that are already there https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4292692-gop-rep-zinke-proposes-bill-to-ban-palestinians-from-entering-us/#:~:text=Rep. Ryan Zinke (R-,Safeguarding Americans from Extremism Act. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maple Leaf Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 1 hour ago, milky_26 said: republicans are trying to get a bill through that would ban palestinians from entering america and could even deport those that are already there https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4292692-gop-rep-zinke-proposes-bill-to-ban-palestinians-from-entering-us/#:~:text=Rep. Ryan Zinke (R-,Safeguarding Americans from Extremism Act. No surprise. Trump tried to ban Muslims from entering America in the first year of his term. Palestinians are Muslim, dontcha know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Sounds like absolute chaos in Trump’s court case now the great man himself has taken the stand and is spouting his usual paranoid nonsense instead of answering questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 51 minutes ago, Tazio said: Sounds like absolute chaos in Trump’s court case now the great man himself has taken the stand and is spouting his usual paranoid nonsense instead of answering questions. Witch hunt, apparently. Judge is a wacko. Well bowl me over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 🤣🤣 The state is asking about a 2021 financial statement. Trump says he thinks it's accurate - he hopes so. “I was so busy in the White House,” he says, adding his focus was on China and Russia. "For the record, you weren't president in 2021 were you?" prosecutor Kevin Wallace asks. Trump says no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterion Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Trump has spent his time on the stand ranting. Been told off and embarrassed a few times. The descriptions coming out from reporters is that he was turning a shade of red as the questioning went on. I wonder if they can get him to perjure himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 He's been on Truth Social during a court recess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 3 hours ago, Mysterion said: Trump has spent his time on the stand ranting. Been told off and embarrassed a few times. The descriptions coming out from reporters is that he was turning a shade of red as the questioning went on. I wonder if they can get him to perjure himself. As I’ve said many times before he’s a man that’s had nobody say no to him since his father died. An entire life of always thinking he’s right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
periodictabledancer Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 8 hours ago, Tazio said: Sounds like absolute chaos in Trump’s court case now the great man himself has taken the stand and is spouting his usual paranoid nonsense instead of answering questions. Apparently he has effectively admitted committing fraud. When asked about his finances - and the alllegation he had less money than he officially stated - he shouted back he had MORE money than he officially stated. And now his dingbat lawyer has held a press conference saying the judge is "unhinged". All going to plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 1 hour ago, periodictabledancer said: he shouted back he had MORE money than he officially stated. Jesus wept Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 He really is a ****ing moron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 Some info from those who agreed plea bargains in the Georgia fraud trial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Sad state of American leadership ,politics and its been driven by the few. Media moguls ,or other singularly minded groups. The US is now a might that is controlled by who? It's not it's presidents and hasn't been for a while. Foreign policy Economic policy(tinkering apart) Immigration Come on this US politics thread is like the young ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maple Leaf Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 In a Trump speech in recent days, the Orange Man was saying that the greatest threat to the USA is not from outside the country but from inside the country. It has all the sounds of speeches from the 1930s. At a time of global unrest, as wars rage in Gaza and Ukraine and with US power challenged by foes like China and Russia, Trump also resorted to a classic authoritarian trope. “The threat from outside forces is far less sinister, dangerous and grave than the threat from within,” he said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bindy Badgy Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 On 06/11/2023 at 19:50, Footballfirst said: He's been on Truth Social during a court recess. Pissing off the judge doesn't sound like the best strategy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 2 hours ago, Bindy Badgy said: Pissing off the judge doesn't sound like the best strategy. Ah but you're not the greatest genius that has no equal and is the bestest of the best. Covfefe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masonic Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 Masonic gonna make money here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffros Furios Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Masonic said: How much cash do you win ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maple Leaf Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Ulysses said: Masonic gonna make money here. I think the offer of a bet came from @Led Tasso, but @Masonic declined. Good decision, imo. Michelle will not be the Democratic candidate. I'd prefer to see Newsom, but that ain't gonna happen either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 A couple of things have gone Trump's way in the last week as the court schedule in some of his cases looks like being delayed beyond the 2024 election. Also, a judge in Colorado has ruled that Trump can appear on the ballot in that state, as he was no longer president at the time of the insurrection (I always thought that he remained president until Biden's inauguration). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watt-Zeefuik Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 2 hours ago, Maple Leaf said: I think the offer of a bet came from @Led Tasso, but @Masonic declined. Good decision, imo. Michelle will not be the Democratic candidate. I'd prefer to see Newsom, but that ain't gonna happen either. Yeah, it's funny, the "generic Democratic candidate" wins by a big margin but you start naming names and the numbers drop, because everyone's "generic" is their own personal ideal. Whitmer would be my pick but I'd be fine with Newsom. I'm fine with Biden for that matter, so long as he wins, which I think is pretty likely but still far from a given. Once again, though, it's right wing media talking about Michelle Obama and absolutely nobody else, because she lives rent free in their brains. And who knows, maybe she'd be a pretty good politician if she wants to be, but she's consistently shown active hostility to the idea. The big chatter this week among people who might actually vote in a Democratic primary or convention was Dwayne "the Rock" Johnson, whom I wanted as Elizabeth Warren's running mate 4 years ago. He'll have to take some policy positions and I get the feeling he might struggle to hold the coalition together. But he'd make Trump look like Elmer Fudd with his mic work, which would be oh so enjoyable to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 8 hours ago, Maple Leaf said: I think the offer of a bet came from @Led Tasso, but @Masonic declined. Good decision, imo. Michelle will not be the Democratic candidate. I'd prefer to see Newsom, but that ain't gonna happen either. Masonic said he placed a bet elsewhere, did he not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 6 hours ago, Footballfirst said: A couple of things have gone Trump's way in the last week as the court schedule in some of his cases looks like being delayed beyond the 2024 election. Also, a judge in Colorado has ruled that Trump can appear on the ballot in that state, as he was no longer president at the time of the insurrection (I always thought that he remained president until Biden's inauguration). Trump remained President right up until Biden took the oath. I don't think that's why the judge ruled in his favour. A quick scan of the last few sections of a lengthy judgement suggests that the reasoning was that the Constitution distinguishes between the President and "officers of the United States". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 Anyway, Biden's pro-Israel stance is causing American Muslims to not want to vote for him? My arse it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watt-Zeefuik Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 8 hours ago, Footballfirst said: A couple of things have gone Trump's way in the last week as the court schedule in some of his cases looks like being delayed beyond the 2024 election. Also, a judge in Colorado has ruled that Trump can appear on the ballot in that state, as he was no longer president at the time of the insurrection (I always thought that he remained president until Biden's inauguration). The rulings in Colorado, Michigan, and Minnesota have all, to my understanding, been that the GOP primary ballot is not officially a ballot for government service but rather a party affair, so he can't be banned from the ballot there. To my understanding, all of them have kept open the possibility of banning him from the general election ballot. It's a bit of bullshit IMO as when I generally don't give a shit about being fair to GOP voters, it's reasonable for them to know before they vote to nominate him whether he'll be deemed constitutionally acceptable for the office. 1 hour ago, Ulysses said: Masonic said he placed a bet elsewhere, did he not? He did. For his sake I hope he cashes out soon. In about three months the chances of Ms Obama becoming the nominee are going to get longer and longer and right now when silly people are placing silly bets is when there's decent money to be made. 1 hour ago, Ulysses said: Trump remained President right up until Biden took the oath. I don't think that's why the judge ruled in his favour. A quick scan of the last few sections of a lengthy judgement suggests that the reasoning was that the Constitution distinguishes between the President and "officers of the United States". I haven't seen the Colorado one but the Minnesota and Michigan ones certainly didn't make that distinction. Michigan is the most salient as Trump is unlikely to win either Minnesota or Colorado even if he wins (although I'm quite sure President Biden would love to have those electoral votes safely squirreled away all the same). However, Trump won Michigan in 2016 and lost it in 2020. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masonic Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 On 18/11/2023 at 14:06, Ulysses said: Masonic gonna make money here. 100% 🤑 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CavySlaveJambo Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 7 hours ago, Masonic said: They were travelling for Rosalynn Carter’s memorial service and funeral. Jimmy Carter was well enough to be there (he is in hospice care for Melanoma) Laura Bush and Melanie Trump were also there. George W Bush and Barack Obama were also invited but couldn’t make it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Cade Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 The person currently using the name George Santos as an alias has been expelled from Congress. 311-114 was the total vote. 112 out of the 222 Republicans voted against. 5 abstained. 105 voted for expulsion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 There's a hearing that is currently going on in the Georgia fraud case. The current date for the trial is August for the 15 defendants. Mark Meadows lawyer has asked for a delay for disclosure and submission of any motions because of his involvement in other trials. Trump's lawyer has asked for a delay to the trial date claiming that he can't campaign if he is attending court, so can't be before 2025. The judge then asked that if Trump become president would it be possible to hold a trial in 2025. The answer given was that he probably couldn't face trial until after he stepped down as president. The lawyer for another defendant requested that the trial date is not delayed as it leaves his client with charges hanging over them for more than a year. No decision was made at this point, but I think the judge is minded to split the defendants in two groups with trials on different dates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 5 hours ago, Cade said: The person currently using the name George Santos as an alias has been expelled from Congress. 311-114 was the total vote. 112 out of the 222 Republicans voted against. 5 abstained. 105 voted for expulsion. I read somewhere that he's made history by being the first person expelled without previously having supported the Confederacy or having been convicted of a felony. Dunno if that's actually true, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canscot Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 3 hours ago, Footballfirst said: There's a hearing that is currently going on in the Georgia fraud case. The current date for the trial is August for the 15 defendants. Mark Meadows lawyer has asked for a delay for disclosure and submission of any motions because of his involvement in other trials. Trump's lawyer has asked for a delay to the trial date claiming that he can't campaign if he is attending court, so can't be before 2025. The judge then asked that if Trump become president would it be possible to hold a trial in 2025. The answer given was that he probably couldn't face trial until after he stepped down as president. The lawyer for another defendant requested that the trial date is not delayed as it leaves his client with charges hanging over them for more than a year. No decision was made at this point, but I think the judge is minded to split the defendants in two groups with trials on different dates. The problem will be if he does get re-elected he might never face trail at all. There is no doubt in my mind that he will find a way to keep himself in power for the rest of his life. He tried it last time. My fear is that he would succeed if given a second chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Ulysses said: I read somewhere that he's made history by being the first person expelled without previously having supported the Confederacy or having been convicted of a felony. Dunno if that's actually true, though. True. 3 were expelled for supporting the secessionist states, 2 were expelled for being convicted of felonies. Santos is the first to be expelled before being convicted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Canscot said: The problem will be if he does get re-elected he might never face trail at all. There is no doubt in my mind that he will find a way to keep himself in power for the rest of his life. He tried it last time. My fear is that he would succeed if given a second chance. If the courts don't stand up to him now, then they will all deserve what is coming. He hasn't been shy in saying what he will do if re-elected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canscot Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 18 minutes ago, Lovecraft said: If the courts don't stand up to him now, then they will all deserve what is coming. He hasn't been shy in saying what he will do if re-elected. I know. If someone tells you what they are going to do, you better believe them. It is all on the record if they want to take the time and check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watt-Zeefuik Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 Jack Smith asks the US Supreme Court to take the immunity case on an accelerated basis, skipping the normal appellate court. It's a bit of a bold and rare move, if somehow also a clever and somewhat obvious one. Of course this is going to end up at SCOTUS, so why wait? Most of the time the justices let the appeals court hear out the objections to the district court ruling first and then mull those over, so it requires cases where there's something extraordinary making urgency paramount. The issue is if this goes through the normal channels, it probably pushes the trial past the election or near it. But it's two pretty straightforward questions. Can a President be criminally charged for crimes he committed while in office? And if he was impeached but not convicted on those, can he still be tried? (Particularly galling if they accepted Trump's arguments on the last one, because the Republican Senators' weaselly excuse for not convicting him was that he wasn't President anymore so why did it matter?) You don't need that many facts of the case to decide those two pretty basic questions. Any sane court would rule against him, of course. But Trump is the President who finally successfully rigged the court to be ultra conservative (completing Mitch McConnell's decades of work), and certainly in Trump's mind they owe him and should pay him back for that. I have no doubt Thomas and Alito will swallow whatever shit the Trump attorneys serve, but I still have some hope for the other four reactionary shitheads in robes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 If ever there was a blatantly obvious signpost of the farce and let's be honest the fakery of Democracy it's his presidency. The meltdown over Trump and the silence about this guy is a joke. It's terrible how he is wheeled out. And before all the usual suspects start screeching you ought to be ashamed given the screeching you usually do. Laughable and its not really. I challenge anyone to back him as a leader. Because if he's not and he's not the worlds biggest terror state is unelected . So whose in charge ? Anyone saying Biden? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Deeds Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 The nick of Biden, Mitch McConnell and Trump is quite something. Let's hope that others are really in charge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffros Furios Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 Joe Biden knew . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japan Jambo Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 Need to change title, thought he was dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 55 minutes ago, Jim_Duncan said: I love your posts Ked. They’re like a jigsaw puzzle. But your heart’s in the right place. Yes I know they are. Think they always have been . But they've got worse. As has my mental health. But I'm still alert enough to see that political dogma will see itherwise sound posters actually stick up for this guy or not the guy but the politic of him which is no different in actuality to the right wing policies they declare theyre against. I might post like a jigsaw buddy but at least I think I can see the picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 Bidens past politics are more right wing than tories. Ffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Jim_Duncan said: 100% Biden certainly doesn’t run that country, that’s for sure. Take it easy. The US politics thread thinks he does Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 7 minutes ago, Jim_Duncan said: There’s guys in that thread that are tugging themselves raw in the hope that Trump goes to jail. I’ve news for them: he ain’t. Unbelievably they don't see the criminality elsewhere. There is no democracy in the US . It's game show material. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 I miss JFK. And Notts. Anyway, anyone who doesn't pronounce it cheese, bro is a confirmed wrongun, we don't even need to check the hard drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 12 minutes ago, Jim_Duncan said: There’s guys in that thread that are tugging themselves raw in the hope that Trump goes to jail. I’ve news for them: he ain’t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 3 hours ago, Jim_Duncan said: I love your posts Ked. They’re like a jigsaw puzzle. But your heart’s in the right place. Makes mine seem quite logical 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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