The Real Maroonblood Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 26 minutes ago, Cade said: American justice system That country is bonkers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackLadd Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 Trump couldn't afford this crook going to jail and squealing on him. Russia hoax, eh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboy1982 Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 Is there a worse place in the world? A country so corrupt and twisted at every level of society. People who have been brainwashed into believing it is the greatest country in the world when in truth it is horrendous. America deserves trump. The world would be a better place without America. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK-1 Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 There can be no doubting it's a dysfunctional broken system. What other leading nation would elect such a bumpkin and despite voluminous evidence from day one that he's entirely unfit keep supporting it. The hypocrisy is astounding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lovecraft Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 This is what puts the fear into Trump. https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/15/joe-biden-pledges-not-to-pardon-trump-260147 Biden pledges not to pardon Trump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK-1 Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 As has been commented on by some of us recently rather than showing any signs of turning things around, Trump simply continues blundering from one disaster to another. It's now being suggested that the Stone madness may be the last straw for yet more Republicans. It's that indefensible. Quote President Trump commuted the sentence of his longtime confidant Roger Stone on Friday, using the extensive powers of the presidency to protect a felon and political ally while also lashing out against a years-long probe into Russia’s interference in the 2016 U.S. election. The move, which the White House announced in a lengthy and pugnacious statement, is the latest attempt by Trump to discredit special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s investigation after it consumed much of his presidency. While the commutation was celebrated by Trump’s most stalwart supporters, the muted response by Republican lawmakers and Stone’s own history as a self-described “dirty trickster” indicated that the president’s decision to interfere with the nation’s justice system could be fraught with political risk. Trump, who has declared himself the president of “law and order” in recent weeks, used his unique presidential authority to undermine the unanimous finding by a jury that Stone broke the law multiple times by lying to Congress and obstructing justice. For a president who sparked a special counsel probe by firing an FBI director in the middle of an investigation and was later impeached for attempting to pressure a foreign government to investigate his political rival, the move to grant Stone clemency underscored his continued willingness to disrupt the nation’s legal and political norms just months before an election. “Roger Stone is a victim of the Russia Hoax that the Left and its allies in the media perpetuated for years in an attempt to undermine the Trump Presidency,” White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany said in a statement Friday that ended with the exclamation: “Roger Stone is a free man!” While the 643-word statement recited a litany of Trump supporters’ complaints about Stone’s “unfair prosecution, arrest, and trial” — including several complaints about the media — the commutation leaves Stone’s conviction standing. Unlike a pardon, which would have absolved the GOP operative of wrongdoing, the White House action only lifted Stone’s punishment, a 40-month prison sentence that was to begin Tuesday. The White House cited Stone’s age, 67, saying he would be at medical risk in prison while he continued his appeals. Stone “maintains his innocence and has stated that he expects to be fully exonerated by the justice system. Mr. Stone, like every American, deserves a fair trial and every opportunity to vindicate himself before the courts. The President does not wish to interfere with his efforts to do so,” the White House said. Democrats quickly slammed the decision as yet another instance of Trump’s undermining the nation’s justice system by protecting his friends and seeking to punish his enemies. Bill Russo, a spokesman for former vice president Joe Biden’s presidential campaign, took issue with both the substance and the timing of the commutation. “President Trump has once again abused his power, releasing this commutation on a Friday night, hoping to yet again avoid scrutiny as he lays waste to the norms and the values that make our country a shining beacon to the rest of the world,” he said in a statement. “He will not be shamed. He will only be stopped when Americans make their voice heard at the ballot box this fall. Enough.” Trump’s clemency move, which went against the recommendation of his own Justice Department, is the latest sign of dysfunction within an administration that has received poor marks for its failure to control the coronavirus pandemic. The president signaled his intentions on Twitter last month, saying Stone “was a victim of a corrupt and illegal Witch Hunt” but “can sleep well at night!” President Trump then told reporters Friday that he is “looking at” pardoning Stone, as he continued to build suspense over whether he would intervene before Stone reported to prison next week. “Well, I’ll be looking at it,” Trump said Friday, before traveling to South Florida for events including a fundraiser in Fort Lauderdale, where Stone lives. “I think Roger Stone was very unfairly untreated, as were many people.” Stone was sentenced to three years and four months in prison after being convicted of seven felony counts including lying about his attempts to get details of Hillary Clinton’s private emails from the anti-secrecy group WikiLeaks, then threatening a witness who could contradict his story. He had been ordered to report to prison by July 14. Because of the coronavirus pandemic, U.S. District Judge Amy Berman Jackson had given Stone a two-week delay to quarantine himself before traveling from South Florida to the prison Jesup, Ga. But she denied the two-month reprieve that Stone had requested with prosecutors’ assent. An appeals court Friday evening also rejected Stone’s attorneys’ renewed request for a delay in his prison reporting date, ruling that they had failed to show why the reporting date was inappropriate or that he was likely to win an appeal for a new trial or reduced sentence. Stone’s defense earlier Friday, echoing Trump’s attacks against Stone’s treatment by prosecutors, argued that 20 inmates at Jesup have tested positive for the virus in the past two weeks, up from zero, according to the U.S. Bureau of Prisons. Stone has argued that the judge and jury in his case were biased against him. Jackson rejected that claim in April, saying Stone’s argument that the forewoman’s anti-Trump political views rendered the verdict against him invalid “is not supported by any facts or data and it is contrary to controlling legal precedent.” Stone appealed her ruling to a higher court. The Trump administration’s intervention in Stone’s case has roiled the Justice Department and the federal judiciary. Trump has repeatedly attacked the prosecutors, judge and jury. Trump also sent tweets suggesting that “everyone” involved in prosecuting the case could be sued. All four of the prosecutors who handled the case withdrew after Barr publicly overruled their recommendation that Stone serve seven to nine years in prison. The suggestion of a more lenient sentence came after Trump complained about the initial recommendation, raising questions about White House interference with the independence of the Justice Department. More than 2,000 former Justice Department employees subsequently signed a public letter urging Barr to resign, and the head of the Federal Judges Association called an emergency meeting to discuss the situation. Barr went on to intervene in the case of another former administration staffer, moving in May to drop charges against Michael Flynn. Trump’s first national security adviser had pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI but has sought to reverse his conviction after claiming that prosecutors mishandled his case. “At the time, I thought that the handling of the Stone case, with senior officials intervening to recommend a lower sentence for a longtime ally of President Trump, was a disastrous mistake that the department would not make again,” Jonathan Kravis, one of the prosecutors wrote, having left the Justice Department over the Stone decision. “I was wrong.” A three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit recently ruled that Judge Emmet G. Sullivan must accept the Department of Justice’s decision. Sullivan this week asked for a review of the 2-1 decision by the full appeals court. Stone’s conviction was the last obtained in Mueller’s investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 U.S. election. At trial last September, prosecutors asserted that Stone lied to Congress to protect Trump from embarrassment, making the president and his campaign a key component in their case. In arguments and testimony, prosecutors revealed phone calls at critical times in 2016 among Stone, Trump and some of the highest-ranking officials in the Trump campaign: Stephen K. Bannon, campaign chairman Paul Manafort and Manafort’s deputy Rick Gates. Gates and Bannon testified that the campaign viewed Stone as a sort of conduit to WikiLeaks who claimed — even before the Russian hacking was known — to have insider information. Gates testified that he overheard a phone call in which Trump seemed to discuss WikiLeaks with Stone, calling into question the president’s assertion to Mueller’s office that he did not remember talking about the organization with his longtime friend. Prosecutors buttressed the witness testimony with call and message records, which they said helped show that Stone’s claims to the House Intelligence Committee were false. Stone’s defense team urged jurors to treat his case as a referendum not on him but on Mueller’s entire Russia investigation. Stone’s attorneys urged jurors to reframe the question from whether Stone lied to whether that mattered, asserting that his hectic efforts to get information from WikiLeaks never amounted to anything. “So much of this case deals with that question that you need to ask … so what?” defense attorney Bruce Rogow said. “There was nothing illegal about the campaign being interested in information that WikiLeaks was going to be sending out,” Rogow said. “If that’s the state of affairs that we’re in, I’m pretty shocked,” Assistant U.S. Attorney Michael Marando told jurors in closing arguments, saying, “Truth matters. Truth still matters.” In Mueller’s report, the special counsel included Trump’s interactions with Stone among examples of potential obstruction by the president. The report noted the during the investigation, Trump commended Stone for having the “guts” to say that he would not testify against the president and called his friend “very brave.” Mueller said evidence supported the inference that Trump intended to signal that he would reward witnesses who could implicate him for their silence. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-says-hes-looking-at-pardoning-roger-stone-ahead-of-prison-term/2020/07/10/d1a1e5ea-c2b7-11ea-b4f6-cb39cd8940fb_story.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK-1 Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 Yet further evidence demonstrating that the the craziness of Trump and the Republicans actually amounts to shooting themselves in the foot. Trump has repeatedly and falsely informed his supporters that mail in ballots are the subject of rampant fraud. So, taking the bumpkin at his word, the bumpkins who support him are apparently refusing to vote by mail. While Democratic supporters have no such problem and are voting by mail in large numbers. I think we can all see the problem the bumpkin has created for him,self here. During a historic pandemic crisis when many people don't want to go out to stand among crowds of people for perhaps hours at polling stations. "Everywhere, it seems, reality is colliding with Trump’s fantasies." Trump’s GOP is becoming a Garish Opera of Paranoia Quote It is a case of being hoisted by his own petard. President Trump has convinced his own supporters of the false conspiracy theory that mail-in ballots are subject to rampant fraud — so much so that Republicans are, evidently, refusing to vote by mail. The Post’s Amy Gardner and Josh Dawsey report that Democratic voters have embraced mail ballots in far greater numbers than Republicans in primaries this year — alarming Republican strategists who say it could undercut their candidates, including Trump, particularly in states such as Florida and Arizona. In Michigan, Trump supporters actually burned absentee-ballot applications. This is but one sign of the descent into madness that Trump has caused. Conspiracy theories, long a staple of the president’s, are spreading faster than covid-19 among his supporters, inducing mass delusion. In the most ominous manifestation, he has convinced his supporters that fears of the virus are overblown (a Democratic “hoax”), that mask-wearing is effete political correctness and that the pandemic’s spread merely proves that “our TESTING is much bigger and better.” Everywhere, it seems, reality is colliding with Trump’s fantasies. This week alone, the White House pushed the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to revise its advice on reopening schools to fit Trump’s rosy claims; an inspector general accused the administration of undercutting public trust by forcing the National Weather Service to support Trump’s fanciful claim that a hurricane menaced Alabama last September; and a lopsided Supreme Court majority dismissed Trump’s claims of “absolute immunity” as inconsistent with “200 years of precedent.” Trump responded Thursday with another conspiracy theory. He rekindled his unsubstantiated “Obamagate” allegation that his predecessor perpetrated “the biggest political crime and scandal in U.S. history” by trying to sabotage Trump’s campaign. This followed Trump’s revival of an old smear saying MSNBC host Joe Scarborough “got away with murder” in the death of a former aide, Trump’s suggestion that an elderly demonstrator in Buffalo injured by police was actually an antifa agent, and his assertion that opponent Joe Biden is addled. Meanwhile, Trump’s son Eric renewed the theory that the virus is a Democratic hoax that will “disappear” after the election. And prison-bound Trump confidant Roger Stone just had more than 100 deceptive accounts and pages taken down by Facebook. Now we see growing ruin caused by so much lunacy coming from the highest office in the land. The GOP is becoming a Garish Opera of Paranoia. In Colorado, an incumbent member of Congress lost a Republican primary to a candidate who embraced the QAnon conspiracy theory about a “deep state” child-sex ring plotting against Trump. Believers in this craziness, who have been retweeted by Trump and display QAnon symbols at his rallies, include the party’s Senate nominee in Oregon and a Republican in a House runoff in Georgia. A Pew Research poll last month found that by nearly two to one, Republicans are finding it harder to identify “what is true and what is false about the outbreak.” A similar proportion of Republicans — 48 percent — found it definitely or probably true that “powerful people planned the coronavirus outbreak,” while 57 percent believed deaths had been intentionally overstated. Why the confusion? Seventy-five percent of Republicans believed the White House presents accurate information. We have been building toward this for some time, as Republican officeholders and commentators touted conspiracy theories as fact, first during the Clinton administration and then during the Obama administration: Vince Foster. Troopergate. Black helicopters. Benghazi! Hillary Clinton’s brain damage. Huma Abedin and the Muslim Brotherhood. Pizzagate. In that sense, Republicans were primed for Trump when he proposed that Barack Obama was born in Africa, climate change is a Chinese hoax, Ted Cruz’s father aided the Kennedy assassination, Antonin Scalia’s death could have been foul play, American Muslims celebrated 9/11, Obama wiretapped Trump Tower, the Democratic National Committee server was hidden in Ukraine, Seth Rich was killed because of the DNC emails, globalists and a deep state manipulated government, millions voted illegally against him, and many more. It was all fun and games in 2015 and 2016, when three-fifths of his supporters (according to one Democratic poll) embraced his claim that Obama wasn’t born in the United States. But now he’s convincing his supporters not to mail in their ballots and not to protect themselves against the virus. A president disenfranchising his own supporters and jeopardizing their lives sounds like the wackiest conspiracy theory of all. But this one is true. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/07/10/trumps-gop-is-becoming-garish-opera-paranoia/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maple Leaf Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 The Roger Stone commutation has been on the cards for months, so it comes as no surprise to me. It's just further proof, as if any was needed, that this dysfunctional, toxic freak of a human being is unsuitable to hold any elected office at any level. Tens of millions of deluded Americans will still vote for him in November because they stupidly believe that the Democrats are akin to communists, but it won't be enough for Trump to avoid an embarrassing defeat. In January I can see the White House security staff walking around shouting, "Come out, come out, wherever you are," as Trump hides under the desk in the Oval Office sucking on his thumb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK-1 Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 24 minutes ago, Maple Leaf said: The Roger Stone commutation has been on the cards for months, so it comes as no surprise to me. And what's the purpose? Even many in his own party are now going silent but inside they're thinking aw FFS Donnie. Wont you even give us a slim chance of being re-elected? All I can think of is that Stone has dirt on him personally and that's all Donnie cares about, not country not party just me me me. And if Stone had to spend years in jail at his age he may turn and reveal the dirt with the possibility of a sentence reduction on offer. It's going to be absolutely fascinating when the whole house of cards comes tumbling down. It's all going to come out. And I don't see how the Republican party itself is going to recover from this self inflicted disaster.. The smartest way out of it would have been to impeach him and let Pence take over. They passed on that and will now suffer the consequences of their support for this criminal maniac. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 15 minutes ago, JFK-1 said: And what's the purpose? Even many in his own party are now going silent but inside they're thinking aw FFS Donnie. Wont you even give us a slim chance of being re-elected? All I can think of is that Stone has dirt on him personally and that's all Donnie cares about, not country not party just me me me. And if Stone had to spend years in jail at his age he may turn and reveal the dirt with the possibility of a sentence reduction on offer. It's going to be absolutely fascinating when the whole house of cards comes tumbling down. It's all going to come out. And I don't see how the Republican party itself is going to recover from this self inflicted disaster.. The smartest way out of it would have been to impeach him and let Pence take over. They passed on that and will now suffer the consequences of their support for this criminal maniac. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maple Leaf Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 The border between the US and Canada has been closed to all but essential travel since mid-March. The Americans want to open it up again, as they say that they *ahem-* have the virus under control. Here's how Canadians feel about that idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK-1 Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Maple Leaf said: The border between the US and Canada has been closed to all but essential travel since mid-March. The Americans want to open it up again, as they say that they *ahem-* have the virus under control. Here's how Canadians feel about that idea. Banned from the EU as well. Trump has turned them into an international pariah. Trump may have the ability to bluff the halfwits who follow him. But that wont work outside the crazy bubble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 5 hours ago, Maple Leaf said: The Roger Stone commutation has been on the cards for months, so it comes as no surprise to me. It's just further proof, as if any was needed, that this dysfunctional, toxic freak of a human being is unsuitable to hold any elected office at any level. Tens of millions of deluded Americans will still vote for him in November because they stupidly believe that the Democrats are akin to communists, but it won't be enough for Trump to avoid an embarrassing defeat. In January I can see the White House security staff walking around shouting, "Come out, come out, wherever you are," as Trump hides under the desk in the Oval Office sucking on his thumb. Imagine some of the stories that will come out after he leaves office. 😮 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK-1 Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 My preference for the removal of Trump from the White House would be he refuses to leave because his defeat is 'fake news' and they mount an Iranian embassy like SAS assault to drag him out of there. He might retreat to the bunker. That's why he was 'inspecting' it recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maple Leaf Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 "Donald Trump is a narcissist, possibly also suffering from an anti-social personality disorder, who lies and cheats as a way of life, has been grossly unqualified for every job he's ever held, and is a profoundly ignorant, self-aggrandizing bully." "He's like a toddler hungry for validation, who is extremely vulnerable to manipulation by stronger, smarter men like Vladimir Putin." "The government as it is currently constituted is entirely in the service of protecting Donald Trump's ego. Thousands of American lives are being sacrificed to his hubris and wilful ignorance. If he is afforded a second term, it would be the end of American democracy." Who said all those things? Trump's niece, Mary Trump, who not only knows him well, but also holds a PhD in clinical psychology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 USA considering banning TikTok https://edition.cnn.com/2020/07/07/tech/us-tiktok-ban/index.html land of the free, unless it is something trumpet does not like then land of the do what i say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 Now wears a Mask. Masks are great now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 1 hour ago, ri Alban said: Now wears a Mask. Masks are great now. The bestest ever President. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlandjambo3 Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 On 29/06/2020 at 20:46, The Real Maroonblood said: I’m surprised a 2 year old would have the strength to pull the trigger. On those revolver guns, you know the one with the cylinder type bullet holder just behind the barrel, if you pull the hammer back (as you see often in films) the trigger actually moves back as well (which you don’t see in films) to just before it’s firing release point making it a very sensitive hairline trigger with very little pressure required on the trigger to release the hammer, even dropping it could set it off. Of course a child is unlikely to be able to set this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 26 minutes ago, highlandjambo3 said: On those revolver guns, you know the one with the cylinder type bullet holder just behind the barrel, if you pull the hammer back (as you see often in films) the trigger actually moves back as well (which you don’t see in films) to just before it’s firing release point making it a very sensitive hairline trigger with very little pressure required on the trigger to release the hammer, even dropping it could set it off. Of course a child is unlikely to be able to set this. Thanks for that. These bits of info always interest me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK-1 Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 The opinion of a previous Republican president. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK-1 Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 It’s Roger Stone now. Manafort and Flynn are next. Quote I was off by a few months when I predicted in November that Roger Stone would be granted executive clemency. “The only question is when,” I wrote. Trump’s safest course of action, I said, would be to wait until after Election Day — Nov. 3, 2020 — to do the dirty deed, but cautioned, “Trump’s impulsiveness, however, is a wild card.” And faced with his longtime henchman heading to the hoosegow next week, Trump couldn’t hold off — so Stone was given clemency in the form of commutation of his prison sentence. Stone is the first of Trump’s three felonious friends to escape a full measure of justice. In the November column, I bet Trump would hit a trifecta with his felon allies. The play is underway. Convicted felon Paul Manafort, jailed for tax evasion and bank fraud, was released from prison in May and granted confinement in his home in Northern Virginia because of the coronavirus pandemic. He is never, ever, cross my heart and hope to die, going back to prison as long as Trump is president. Given that Stone and Manafort have been spared from life behind bars, it’s all but certain that convicted felon Michael Flynn will go footloose and fancy-free. If the federal courts balk at the Trump Justice Department’s extraordinary request to drop the case outright — a case it has already won, mind you — then there can be no doubt that Trump’s ex-national security adviser will be granted executive clemency, most likely an outright pardon. What, after all, is presidential power to Donald Trump, except to be used as he sees fit? Sen. Mitt Romney (R-Utah), angered by Trump’s decision, tweeted this morning, “Unprecedented, historic corruption: an American president commutes the sentence of a person convicted by a jury of lying to shield that very president.” Must have made Trump yawn. Since entering office, Trump has demonstrated nothing but disregard for ethics and justice. Against the advice of experienced, respected leaders in the Pentagon, Trump intervened in three cases involving war-crimes accusations, overturning decisions of military juries and issuing full pardons to two soldiers convicted of war crimes, as well as reversing disciplinary action against a third service member. He got caught trying to bribe a foreign country to interfere in a U.S. election — specifically by offering desperately needed military assistance in exchange for that county pledging to publicly dig up dirt on an opponent — a blatant abuse of presidential power — and got away with it. A nosy U.S. attorney in the Southern District of New York is invading Trump’s business and financial affairs? Why, just sic Attorney General William P. Barr on him. Pressure now-former U.S. Attorney Geoffrey Berman to resign. Entice the federal prosecutor with other prominent government jobs. If that doesn’t work? Fire him — which Trump did. Don’t care for independent inspectors general scouting our waste, fraud and abuse during the Reign of Trump? Purge and replace them with more pliant appointees. From April to May, five IGs were kicked out the door in six weeks. Because he wanted to. None of this should come as a surprise. What does the rule of law and the system of justice mean to Donald Trump, who thinks his presidency is uncheckable? Trump must be taught otherwise on Election Day. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/07/11/its-roger-stone-now-manafort-flynn-are-next/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawdust Caesar Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 18 hours ago, Maple Leaf said: The border between the US and Canada has been closed to all but essential travel since mid-March. The Americans want to open it up again, as they say that they *ahem-* have the virus under control. Here's how Canadians feel about that idea. I don't know if Canada has presidential campaign rallies like the yanks but if they do have them, then at Trudeau's next one the crowd should chant "build the wall." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK-1 Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 I'm aware there are still people who think Trumo can turn this around, reverse those numbers indicating he's heading for a humiliating defeat. My question is how? Is Trump going to magically transform into a whole other person? A miracle like the one he keeps saying will end the pandemic? I don't see Trump becoming anything other than he is and always has been and I don't believe in miracles. The worst president ever keeps getting worse Quote Three months ago — all the way back on April 5 — I proclaimed Donald Trump the worst president ever. Oh, how innocent I was. Sure, I knew he was bad. But not this bad. Back then I thought he was barely edging James Buchanan in the annals of presidential ineptitude. But now, with the commutation of Roger Stone’s well-deserved prison sentence and so many other vile acts, he has disgraced the nation’s highest office as no previous occupant has come close to doing. Think about all that has happened since April 5. That was before security forces attacked peaceful protesters in Lafayette Square so that Trump could stage a bizarre photo-op. Before he pushed to send the armed forces into the streets. Before he embraced “white power” and called Black Lives Matter “a symbol of hate.” Before he vowed to veto the defense authorization bill to prevent the renaming of military bases named after Confederate generals. Before he used the novel coronavirus as an excuse to shut down immigration and threatened to revoke the visas of college students unable to attend classes in the fall. Before he ignored reports that a Russian intelligence unit had placed a bounty on U.S. soldiers in Afghanistan. Before he moved to pull out of the World Health Organization during the worst pandemic in a century. Before he held rallies that most likely helped to spread the disease. Before he falsely accused MSNBC host and Post columnist Joe Scarborough of murdering a staff member. Before former national security adviser John Bolton revealed that Trump praised China’s prison camps for Uighurs and asked Chinese leader Xi Jinping to help him win reelection. Most of all, that was before the coronavirus had infected more than 3.1 million Americans and claimed the lives of more than 131,000. The pandemic was already a disaster on April 5, but back then we still had “only” 331,000 cases and 9,400 deaths. On April 5, 1,344 new cases were reported. As many were recorded in 30 minutes on Friday, when daily new coronavirus cases climbed to a record-breaking 63,900. In early April it was still possible to imagine that the virus really would abate by the middle of summer. That this hasn’t happened — that the virus is still raging out of control in America while being brought under control in so many other countries — is directly attributable to the epic failure of leadership by a president who infamously proclaimed “I don’t take responsibility at all.” But what makes Trump the worst president ever is not simply that he is colossally incompetent. It is that he is also thoroughly corrupt. It is hard to think of a single major decision he has made for the good of the country, rather than for his own advantage. Trump has so egregiously abused the power of the presidency that he makes Warren Harding and Richard Nixon look like choirboys. Trump was impeached for trying to use military aid to blackmail Ukraine into helping his reelection campaign. He seems to have learned nothing from the experience save that, with Republicans in control of the Senate, he can get away with anything. Since his acquittal, he has committed one appalling act of corruption after another. Trump has purged anyone who dared to testify against him. The most recent victim was Army Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, a decorated combat veteran who was forced to retire while being belittled by a callow White House press secretary as a “former junior employee.” Also gone are the U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York and numerous inspectors general who dared to investigate Trump and his cronies. At the same time, Attorney General William P. Barr has launched a politically motivated probe of the investigators who had looked into the Trump campaign’s copious ties to Russia. FBI agents have already been hounded into retirement and slandered by the president. They may yet face prosecution. While seeking vengeance against those who spoke the truth about his ugly machinations, Trump has sought to reward those who broke the law on his behalf. Barr wants to drop charges to which former national security adviser Michael Flynn already pleaded guilty — a move that a retired federal judge described as “clear evidence of gross prosecutorial abuse.” Barr also sought a reduced sentence for Stone, even while conceding that his “prosecution was righteous,” before Trump on Friday simply set Stone free. Stone served as the liaison between the Trump campaign and Wikileaks, the website that Russian intelligence used to release stolen Democratic Party emails to help Trump win the presidency. Stone refused to testify about what he knew; he perjured himself and obstructed justice to protect the president. And now Trump has rewarded him for his silence. The quid pro quo is blindingly obvious. Not even Nixon during Watergate dared to pardon his co-conspirators or commute their sentences. That Trump has done so secures his unrivaled place in the annals of presidential infamy. He is not just the worst president ever; he keeps getting worse. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/07/11/worst-president-ever-keeps-getting-worse/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 (edited) Now tweeting that while he has been on the golf course more times than Obama, that's ok because because he plays 'quick rounds' and Obama spent far more actual time on the golf course than he does. Edit - he's not far off claiming he would beat Kim-il Jong 10 & 8 if they had a game of match play. And Kim can do 18 holes in about 27 strokes. Edited July 12, 2020 by DETTY29 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK-1 Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 1 hour ago, DETTY29 said: Now tweeting that while he has been on the golf course more times than Obama, that's ok because because he plays 'quick rounds' and Obama spent far more actual time on the golf course than he does. Edit - he's not far off claiming he would beat Kim-il Jong 10 & 8 if they had a game of match play. And Kim can do 18 holes in about 27 strokes. He spends a lot more time tweeting than Obama ever did golfing. Five tweets in an hour this morning. That's how focused he is on the actual position of being president. After that 4 hours of Fox news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 40 minutes ago, JFK-1 said: He spends a lot more time tweeting than Obama ever did golfing. Five tweets in an hour this morning. That's how focused he is on the actual position of being president. After that 4 hours of Fox news. I watched a TV doc on his tweeting. Twitter should be banned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NANOJAMBO Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 1 hour ago, JFK-1 said: The Lincoln Project do some great ads that really get under Trump's skin. I read they keep the costs down by not broadcasting nationally , but target DC when Donny is in town and do it on Fox news to boot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gards Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 9 hours ago, JFK-1 said: The opinion of a previous Republican president. I assume you meant presidential candidate - Romney didn't win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK-1 Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 55 minutes ago, Gards said: I assume you meant presidential candidate - Romney didn't win No I actually meant former president, but. My brain had somehow bypassed the name and just glanced at the small pic, mistook it for Bush senior. Later I noticed the name but couldn't be bothered editing. It was still the same message. Republican establishment figure brands Trump corrupt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK-1 Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 5 hours ago, ri Alban said: I watched a TV doc on his tweeting. Twitter should be banned. Trump in Tweets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NANOJAMBO Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 Donny's been money laundering again... https://www.politicalflare.com/2020/03/new-york-prosectors-believe-ivanka-trump-skimmed-millions-from-the-2016-inaugural-fund/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maple Leaf Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 28 minutes ago, JFK-1 said: Trump in Tweets I stopped watching after about ten minutes. Trump is too pathetic for words. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 11 hours ago, NANOJAMBO said: Donny's been money laundering again... https://www.politicalflare.com/2020/03/new-york-prosectors-believe-ivanka-trump-skimmed-millions-from-the-2016-inaugural-fund/ Drain that swamp. What he didn't tell his brainwashed minions was that he wanted to drain the swamp so that he & his family could have the swamp all to themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jambo-Jimbo Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Florida records more new cases in a single day (15,000) than South Korea has recorded in the last 6 months (13,500). And what does the White House & Trump do. Attacks Dr. Fauci and Trump re-tweets some conspiracy shit by a game-show host called Chuck Woolery that the CDC, Media, Democrats are all lying about Covid-19 and implies that it's all a plot to wreck the economy and win the election. https://www.towleroad.com/2020/07/chuck-woolery-covid/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maple Leaf Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: Florida records more new cases in a single day (15,000) than South Korea has recorded in the last 6 months (13,500). And what does the White House & Trump do. Attacks Dr. Fauci and Trump re-tweets some conspiracy shit by a game-show host called Chuck Woolery that the CDC, Media, Democrats are all lying about Covid-19 and implies that it's all a plot to wreck the economy and win the election. https://www.towleroad.com/2020/07/chuck-woolery-covid/ “Repeat a lie often enough and it becomes the truth”, is a law of propaganda often attributed to the Nazi Joseph Goebbels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 20 minutes ago, Maple Leaf said: “Repeat a lie often enough and it becomes the truth”, is a law of propaganda often attributed to the Nazi Joseph Goebbels Which is just par for the course in the Trump play-book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Whatever happened to the trumplings that used to knock about on here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Just now, Smithee said: Whatever happened to the trumplings that used to knock about on here? Back under their rock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK-1 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 On 07/07/2020 at 22:37, Justin Z said: Exactly! There is absolutely no way he's even capable of ignoring it. It's brilliant. The videos from the Lincoln project are becoming ever more of a psychological attack on the thin skinned Trump. I'm wondering if they actually consulted the psychiatrists about how to get under his thin skin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK-1 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 12 minutes ago, Smithee said: Whatever happened to the trumplings that used to knock about on here? At this point what in the world could possibly be said to suggest this orange buffoon is anything approaching competent to hold any high office. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franko1874 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 I can't wait for the truth to come out, a few posters are going to look rather silly... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Just now, franko1874 said: I can't wait for the truth to come out, a few posters are going to look rather silly... What truth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franko1874 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said: What truth? I'll come back on to this thread when the arrests are announced Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Just now, franko1874 said: I'll come back on to this thread when the arrests are announced Aye Trump's. Are you suggesting DT is gonnae have Barack arrested? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Just now, franko1874 said: I'll come back on to this thread when the arrests are announced What arrests? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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