Markymark Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 11 minutes ago, allanwilson1970 said: Thanks for your constructive feedback- I must be an imbecile as spent money and time to watch. Feedback was an honest assessment, we were shocking from the first to the last minute Allan, I wouldn’t worry to much about what he has to say. The minute you criticise anything on the park and how we are run as a club then he’s the first one to jump in. thanks for your view on the game. Sadly not a lot of positives to take from it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Marsh Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 9 minutes ago, allanwilson1970 said: Thanks for your constructive feedback- I must be an imbecile as spent money and time to watch. Feedback was an honest assessment, we were shocking from the first to the last minute Fair play to you going up there yesterday and giving your report. PHM. What is worrying is that half that team yesterday were signed by Levein. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfhearts Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Thing is we have about 11 first team players who are simply not good enough, total waste of money that could be used on the new stand.?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambogemz Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Markymark said: So the chap Allan who gave us his time and cash to watch the reserves is an imbecile is he? I think more than anyone on this thread his opinion is relevant and valid as had to suffer watching that crap in Aberdeen. The players that Levein has signed can’t beat a team of 17 / 18 year olds. Sorry but that’s not acceptable. You bury your head in the sand and continue to insult the fans that saved our club. That in my opinion makes you a complete Moron! The chap Allan wasn't calling for heads to roll though. He merely stated he was disappointed to have wasted his time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambogemz Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 57 minutes ago, allanwilson1970 said: Thanks for your constructive feedback- I must be an imbecile as spent money and time to watch. Feedback was an honest assessment, we were shocking from the first to the last minute He wasn't calling you an imbecile. You weren't the one calling for heads to roll at the top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Kintner Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 5 hours ago, mitch41 said: The result tells you all you need to know about players attitude when they play for Hearts. No matter the opposition when you put that shirt on against anyone there is a certain standard that you should never fall below and this has happened too many times this season. In the past few years we’ve had “ It’s our first season in the top division”, “Give Cathro time”, “We need to get rid of Sammon, Martin ect”. “Levein needs time to get his own team”, “It’s the new stand”, “It’s injuries, after Levein stated he was happy with the Hearts squad” and this cracker “The size of our pitch”. You can go on and on but eventually the excuses just don’t cut it anymore. How hard is it to have the Hearts teams of all age groups playing attractive attacking football that the fans would love to watch. But focusing on the actual match...Which players did you feel were poorest? Anybody catch your eye who played well? How did Vanacek’s fitness look? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambogemz Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 22 minutes ago, To Be Frank said: But focusing on the actual match...Which players did you feel were poorest? Anybody catch your eye who played well? How did Vanacek’s fitness look? 3rd time lucky with the question. ......still no answer. Says it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 5 hours ago, mitch41 said: Injuries are a fact of life and all clubs are going to get them so when our manager tells the fans he’s happy with the Hearts squad for the rest of the season was he wrong. I know full well injuries are a fact of life - I'm not an idiot. As I have said before we are not rich enough to have a like-for-like replacement for each position and when your 4 or 5 BEST players are out at the same time, ANY TEAM will struggle. Can you not grasp that and stop your childish, petty- lipped moaning? We were top of the league with a reasonably settled team before these injuries happened. Uche, Haring, Berra, Brandon, Soapy to name but a few, suffered LONG TERM injuries with others such as Godinho, Dikamona, Morrison, Cochrane all missing from time to time for lesser periods. That must upset the apple cart not only with necessary personnel changes but also trying to cover up the resulting deficiencies with format changes. You also seem gullible enough to digest every word CL says in the press. He could have said "I'd really like to go out and buy 5 new players but we don't have the money" and even if he had been able to do that, he would now be left with a surfeit of top players clicking their heels in the dressing-room and possibly causing unrest - not to mention the extra wages. Is that what you want? Were you even at yesterday's game or are you jumping on the wagon of others whose contributions suit your agenda? (FWIW I wasn't at the game) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hearts00 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 How depressing is it to hear our new striker, that was built up so much, after nearly 1.5 months to get up to speed looked absolutely useless against Aberdeen youths. So so depressing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David McCaig Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 8 hours ago, hearts00 said: How depressing is it to hear our new striker, that was built up so much, after nearly 1.5 months to get up to speed looked absolutely useless against Aberdeen youths. So so depressing. Alternatively, maybe our new striker having played 90 minutes on his debut V Livingston (providing the assist for the winning goal) has responded badly to being publicly humiliated by his Manager and banished to playing with the kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Kintner Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 11 hours ago, jambogemz said: 3rd time lucky with the question. ......still no answer. Says it all. Are you suggesting he’s went completely and utterly off the deep end about a “disgusting reserve team performance” when he didn’t even see the game... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambo19 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 6 hours ago, David McCaig said: Alternatively, maybe our new striker having played 90 minutes on his debut V Livingston (providing the assist for the winning goal) has responded badly to being publicly humiliated by his Manager and banished to playing with the kids. Banished or playing in games to get his match fitness up, something the player himself admitted when he also said the manager was correct to criticise his fitness after his holiday? Competing against Uche, Naismith, Keena for a forward space, I wouldn't view playing the reserves as being banished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David McCaig Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, jambo19 said: Banished or playing in games to get his match fitness up, something the player himself admitted when he also said the manager was correct to criticise his fitness after his holiday? Competing against Uche, Naismith, Keena for a forward space, I wouldn't view playing the reserves as being banished. Whilst clearly not 100% match fit v Livingston, he still had some promising moments and was far from the worst player on the pitch when hooked after 30 mins v Dundee... 3 days after playing the full 90 in our only win of the season v Livvy. I struggle to see how his fitness will improve by not playing in the first team. His record at Teplice shows he is a capable first team performer. Hopefully Vanecek won't be the latest player sent into cold storage in the Levein era. Edited February 20, 2019 by David McCaig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funtime Jambo Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 19 hours ago, To Be Frank said: But focusing on the actual match...Which players did you feel were poorest? Anybody catch your eye who played well? How did Vanacek’s fitness look? Young lad Currie replaced him and looked a far better player and also scored the 2nd goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch41 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 Too many times we watch a Hearts player and although we know he's toiling we hear "He had some promising moments" "He's not fit" "He needs time" "He's lacking confidence". Is this what our team has become a team of excuses continually underperforming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homme Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 (edited) Folk greeting over a reserve match Had Doyle not chucked one in at the weekend nobody would have given a shit. Edited February 20, 2019 by Homme Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 19 minutes ago, Homme said: Folk greeting over a reserve match Had Doyle not chucked one in at the weekend nobody would have given a shit. That’s football. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Kintner Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 21 minutes ago, Homme said: Folk greeting over a reserve match Indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o1djambo Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 18 minutes ago, Homme said: Folk greeting over a reserve match Had Doyle not chucked one in at the weekend nobody would have given a shit. Of course we would. The topic and complaints are not about the defeat but the manner of it. So you think it is fine to put a strong team out against boys and be humiliated. Not good enough when we consider the investment in training facilities and the number of training and support staff we see trailing across the park at the start of games. Sometimes I wonder what is they all do because there is little evidence of improvement on the park for quite some time now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartandsoul Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, o1djambo said: Of course we would. The topic and complaints are not about the defeat but the manner of it. So you think it is fine to put a strong team out against boys and be humiliated. Not good enough when we consider the investment in training facilities and the number of training and support staff we see trailing across the park at the start of games. Sometimes I wonder what is they all do because there is little evidence of improvement on the park for quite some time now. This Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homme Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, o1djambo said: Of course we would. The topic and complaints are not about the defeat but the manner of it. So you think it is fine to put a strong team out against boys and be humiliated. Not good enough when we consider the investment in training facilities and the number of training and support staff we see trailing across the park at the start of games. Sometimes I wonder what is they all do because there is little evidence of improvement on the park for quite some time now. I didn't even know we played Aberdeen I a reserve match 3 days or so ago. Only found out about it and the score this afternoon. Furthermore I only really bother how our players play in first team matches. Now if it was St Mirren this weekend... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 23 hours ago, Markymark said: So the chap Allan who gave us his time and cash to watch the reserves is an imbecile is he? I think more than anyone on this thread his opinion is relevant and valid as had to suffer watching that crap in Aberdeen. The players that Levein has signed can’t beat a team of 17 / 18 year olds. Sorry but that’s not acceptable. You bury your head in the sand and continue to insult the fans that saved our club. That in my opinion makes you a complete Moron! I remember a Hearts team with lots of 17/18/19 yr olds under Gary Locke beating a very good senior Aberdeen side (that got 2nd about 3 times in a row) in a competitive game or two. Not sure reserve games are worth getting too excited about either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Canada Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 It was only one game but it's disappointing to hear how badly guys such as Garuccio, Edwards and Vanecek played. Yes we have a bigger squad this season but few players seem to be busting a gut to get into the first team. I wish we had 25 players with an attitude like Haring and Dikamona. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David McCaig Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 12 minutes ago, Captain Canada said: It was only one game but it's disappointing to hear how badly guys such as Garuccio, Edwards and Vanecek played. Yes we have a bigger squad this season but few players seem to be busting a gut to get into the first team. I wish we had 25 players with an attitude like Haring and Dikamona. Is it really a surprise that guys cold shouldered by Levein and then banished to the reserves aren't pulling up trees? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 Just now, David McCaig said: Is it really a surprise that guys cold shouldered by Levein and then banished to the reserves aren't pulling up trees? Garruccio played on Sunday. Vanacek is supposed to be getting up to speed fitness wise. Who knows with Edwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 2 hours ago, Homme said: Folk greeting over a reserve match Had Doyle not chucked one in at the weekend nobody would have given a shit. I'm not really sure they give a shit anyway, it just gives them something to moan on about. That makes them happy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 If there is one thing I have learnt from following youth/reserve football over the years, its don't look too much into big scorelines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David McCaig Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 20 minutes ago, ToqueJambo said: Garruccio played on Sunday. Vanacek is supposed to be getting up to speed fitness wise. Who knows with Edwards. Levein clearly has an issue with Garuccio and Vanecek needs first team football not purgatory in the Youth Team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Canada Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 1 hour ago, David McCaig said: Is it really a surprise that guys cold shouldered by Levein and then banished to the reserves aren't pulling up trees? I'd have thought they'd all have a point to prove. Vanecek has only got himself to blame for his situation. They're still being paid by the club so should have a more professional attitude. I can't understand guys who become footballers and then don't show any appetite because it's a reserve game. Too many egos these days rather than just playing the game because they love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 1 hour ago, David McCaig said: Levein clearly has an issue with Garuccio and Vanecek needs first team football not purgatory in the Youth Team. What issue does he have if he played him? He doesn't see him as a LWB, just more of a LB, that's all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfhearts Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 Jig you need to wisen up, things are not good. The wage bill must be horrendous and look at how lopsided the first team squad is, then we have Zaneta, Moore coming back next season to further muddy the waters. Time we signed quality over quantity and am not convinced current football Department is capable of that based on this season's efforts, hopefully it can change but don't see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David McCaig Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 14 minutes ago, ToqueJambo said: What issue does he have if he played him? He doesn't see him as a LWB, just more of a LB, that's all. Levein turned his back on Garuccio as he walked off on Sunday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, David McCaig said: Levein turned his back on Garuccio as he walked off on Sunday. Yes, and he's explained why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Kintner Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 “Muddy the waters” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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