The White Cockade Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Jonah Barrington Tom Morris Snr and Jnr Stanley Mathews Gareth Edwards Barry John Alfredo Di Stefano Lionel Messi Tony Hand Emil Zatopek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 2 hours ago, Cruyff Turn said: But they don’t just play Basketball in America. https://www.totalsportek.com/most-popular-sports/ I thought it was widely accepted that fishing was the biggest sport in the word or is that a leisure pursuit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Turn Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 6 minutes ago, graygo said: I thought it was widely accepted that fishing was the biggest sport in the word or is that a leisure pursuit? And has been since folk realised there was fish in the water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Turn Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 1 hour ago, ri Alban said: Football worldwide Golf worldwide Baseball USA NFL /College Football Athletics USA Basketball USA It’s still big in Eastern Europe, Turkey, Russia, China and South America. Which is a fair part of the world. Maybe not so much in Western Europe. Cricket must be up there as well, played by England and all the Countries they invaded. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 14 minutes ago, Barack said: Sitting at the side of a canal, with a camouflage tent, drinking some beers & falling asleep, isn't a "sport." It's homelessness with more stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 (edited) 35 minutes ago, hmfc_liam06 said: LeBron James would be in ahead of Michael Jordan if you could only pick one per sport. Nope MJ would be 1 and Wilt Chamberlain 2. Le Bron 3. And tbh Wilt should probably be No.1. Edited December 14, 2018 by Seymour M Hersh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 10 hours ago, Cruyff Turn said: It’s still big in Eastern Europe, Turkey, Russia, China and South America. Which is a fair part of the world. Maybe not so much in Western Europe. Cricket must be up there as well, played by England and all the Countries they invaded. ? Correct and correct. Personally, I have BB in 3rd after Baseball and American football in the US. As for world it's football then golf for me. Is Baseball not massive in Japan, Mexico and Cuba/Caribbean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 (edited) 13 hours ago, lauriesrank said: osuulivan has now won 19 of the triple compared to 18 of hendrys. Snooker was boring before Hendry showed the world how to really play the game. 7 world titles is top trump, unless you think more league cups beats league titles. Hendry, Davis and Williams won the triple crown events in the same season, Stephen is the only player to win in the same season twice. Stephen Hendry last triple crown ever win was the WC 20 years ago come the next world championship. 20 years ago ffs. Edited December 15, 2018 by ri Alban Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 12 minutes ago, ri Alban said: Snooker was boring before Hendry showed the world how to really play the game. 7 world titles is top trump, unless you think more league cups beats league titles. Hendry, Davis and Williams won the triple crown events in the same season, Stephen is the only player to win them all in the same season twice. Stephen Hendry's last triple crown ever win was the WC 20 years ago come the next world championship. 20 years ago, ffs, I'm auld. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Ronaldo Messi Federer Nadal Djokovic Pete Sampras Serena Williams Steve Davis Stephen Hendry Steff Graff Serial winners them all. I wouldn't count darts sorry, that's not a top level sport. To think that those top two can have that effect in a team of 11 puts them top, basically in a big game you've won with either, simple as. All have the same idea, they get/got a trophy and would be onto the next one. Also, if it wasn't for his collapse I would have put in Tiger Woods Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougal Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 On 13/12/2018 at 22:45, Roxy Hearts said: I thought you meant transcending sense not just your own sport. Jordan isn't as worldly, if you know what I mean. Nike Air JORDAN but not worldly?? You're joking right?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridge of Djoum Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 23 hours ago, Cruyff Turn said: It’s still big in Eastern Europe, Turkey, Russia, China and South America. Which is a fair part of the world. Maybe not so much in Western Europe. Cricket must be up there as well, played by England and all the Countries they graciously made better. ? FTFY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlasgoJambo Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 On 14/12/2018 at 18:16, Barack said: Sitting at the side of a canal, with a camouflage tent, drinking some beers & falling asleep, isn't a "sport." It's homelessness with more stuff. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felix Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 No mention of Mike Tyson or Michael Johnson yet ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyBatistuta Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Ayrton Senna Diego Maradona Muhammad Ali Stephen Hendry Sugar Ray Leonard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Boy Named Crow Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 On 14/12/2018 at 13:01, ri Alban said: If he's allowed , I'd say Lance Armstrong is the ultimate king of his sport. I was just about to post that Lewis’ career could certainly be viewed as eyebrow raising, perhaps even suspicious...I’ll leave it at that though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boozyuzi Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 On 14/12/2018 at 10:41, Spitonastranger said: Alex Marshall GIRUY His brother Rab Marshall has won the Slateford Bowling Club Championship 21 times.. Surely that the winner here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zico Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 On 14/12/2018 at 18:38, Seymour M Hersh said: Nope MJ would be 1 and Wilt Chamberlain 2. Le Bron 3. And tbh Wilt should probably be No.1. Defo. LeBron is amazing but not MJ amazing. By all accounts Wilt was no.1 but I saw MJ play so recency bias wins! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester™ Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Boozyuzi said: His brother Rab Marshall has won the Slateford Bowling Club Championship 21 times.. Surely that the winner here. Unfortunately, Tattie has the most Commonwealth Games Gold Medals of any athlete, coupled with more World (Indoor) Championships than any other bowler. Anyway: Lemieux Jordan (the greatest sportsman ever) Johnson (watched him break the AC/Euro record at Meadowbank - was an advocate of Save Meadowbank) Bolt Taylor Marshall (see above) Laver Hand (as a player) Hendry Marquez (come on now. He's barely lost a World Championship at any level!) (I might swap, here and there Schumacher, Moses or Rossi) Edited December 16, 2018 by Chester™ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 Manny Pacquiao, the only boxer to have been world champion in 8 different divisions. Still class at near 40 . Must be in the top 5 fighters of all time. Usian Bolt would have to be the most dominant Athlete ever in any sport. A young Iron Mike Tyson is the scariest sportsman I've ever clapped eyes on. You were taking your life in your hands stepping in the ring with him. Messi, just incredible. Maradonna, wow Pistol Pete Sampras, unbeatable 99% of the time. Bjorn Borg, retired too young. The Greatest. Stephen Hendry , The finest player to lift a snooker cue. Hendry at his peak had no equal from any era. Floyd Mayweather, can't stand him, but the man is 49-0 for a reason. Haile Gebrselassie , just class. Maybe I should add Tom Brady, but his cheating counts him out in my eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 Jim Aitken, always seems to do well at the Olympics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyBatistuta Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 2 hours ago, ri Alban said: Manny Pacquiao, the only boxer to have been world champion in 8 different divisions. Still class at near 40 . Must be in the top 5 fighters of all time. Usian Bolt would have to be the most dominant Athlete ever in any sport. A young Iron Mike Tyson is the scariest sportsman I've ever clapped eyes on. You were taking your life in your hands stepping in the ring with him. Messi, just incredible. Maradonna, wow Pistol Pete Sampras, unbeatable 99% of the time. Bjorn Borg, retired too young. The Greatest. Stephen Hendry , The finest player to lift a snooker cue. Hendry at his peak had no equal from any era. Floyd Mayweather, can't stand him, but the man is 49-0 for a reason. Haile Gebrselassie , just class. Maybe I should add Tom Brady, but his cheating counts him out in my eyes. Peyton Manning...walking computer. Desperate for him to coach the Colts one day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWL Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 C B Fry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxy Hearts Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 22 hours ago, dougal said: Nike Air JORDAN but not worldly?? You're joking right?? A training shoe more worldly than the man? He's not such a big deal as Ali, Nicklaus, Pele, Maradona etc. IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxteth O'Grady Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 On 14/12/2018 at 16:05, Bridge of Djoum said: Ty Cobb Diana Taurasi Ivan Mauger Jerry Rice Wayne Gretzky Julius Erving Mia Hamm Jackie Joyner-Kersee Kelly Slater Michael Johnson A wee bit different Some good ones there. David Weir - Wheelchair athlete - I've spoken to him and his arms were as thick as my thighs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxteth O'Grady Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 On 14/12/2018 at 18:14, graygo said: I thought it was widely accepted that fishing was the biggest sport in the word or is that a leisure pursuit? Bob Nudd - 3 times world match fishing champion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuel Camazzola Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 Tiger is still number 1 despite a good list of names being produced. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinnybob72 Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 No mention yet for Ed Moses? 400m hurdler who won 107 consecutive finals between 1977 and 1987 (according to Wiki!). Won gold in the 1976 and 1984 Olympic Games - USA didn't compete in 1980. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 On 14/12/2018 at 08:27, Craig_ said: I'd argue O'Sullivan is a more naturally talented player, but Hendry considerably more successful, and in a more competitive era too. O’Sullivan has just passed his amount of majors won. Only a couple behind in world titles now too. Hendry changed snooker and the two of them are head and shoulders above anyone else who’s ever played it. Ronnie is the most naturally talented and could probably beat decent opponents left handed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
151 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Havent watched any cricket in about a decade, and never really was into it only ever watched it late at night to fall asleep to - but seem to remember Sachin Tendulkar being pretty decent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 6 hours ago, skinnybob72 said: No mention yet for Ed Moses? 400m hurdler who won 107 consecutive finals between 1977 and 1987 (according to Wiki!). Won gold in the 1976 and 1984 Olympic Games - USA didn't compete in 1980. Aye... a few days ago... On 13/12/2018 at 20:32, been here before said: Dick McTaggart That American Hurdler dude. Ed Moses? Rocky Marciano Ballyregan Bob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie1874 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 On 13/12/2018 at 21:45, The Old Tolbooth said: Joe Calzaghe, unbeaten in an epic career. Did he not avoid a couple of up and coming fighters before retiring early? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 58 minutes ago, stevie1874 said: Did he not avoid a couple of up and coming fighters before retiring early? Dodged Karl Crochet, honestly don't know why. He'd have done him right in. A prime Nigel Benn, Chris Eubank, James Toney, Jones Jnr and Michael Watson would have battered Joe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie1874 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 1 minute ago, ri Alban said: Dodged Karl Crochet, honestly don't know why. He'd have done him right in. A prime Nigel Benn, Chris Eubank, James Toney, Jones Jnr and Michael Watson would have battered Joe. Couldn’t remember who it was but Froch in my opinion would also have beaten Calzaghe. Was their not an American fighter he dodged before an early exit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 32 minutes ago, stevie1874 said: Couldn’t remember who it was but Froch in my opinion would also have beaten Calzaghe. Was their not an American fighter he dodged before an early exit? Glen Johnson and Kelly Pavlik come to mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabienleclerq Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Does Serena qualify? She is the best female ever but far from the best in the sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ribble Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 On 14/12/2018 at 10:16, All roads lead to Gorgie said: I don't think he has be mentioned but Brian Lara the West Indies cricketer dominated the batting averages for ages. For batting averages see Don Bradman, makes Lara look like a kid playing rounders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All roads lead to Gorgie Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 25 minutes ago, Ribble said: For batting averages see Don Bradman, makes Lara look like a kid playing rounders I was thinking players in my lifetime like Lara but Bradman is way out front there is no doubt about that in an all time list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
132goals1958 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 On 13/12/2018 at 22:34, SectionG said: Phil Taylor surely has to make this list, not the most likeable but certainly dominated his sport Just my opinion but I view darts as a parlor game rather than a sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
132goals1958 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Herb Elliott -the greatest athlete of his time. ---- late fifties and early sixties went 4 or five years undefeated in the 1500 metres and mile distance breaking world records on countless occasions. Ed Moses was another superb athlete totally dominating the 400 metre hurdles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Nobody will ever achieve what Zatopek did. Never. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimKongUno Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 On 14/12/2018 at 15:54, ri Alban said: Roger Federer? Can't really say he dominated when Nadal and Novak usually wipe the floor with him and will overtake his records. Il bet you all the oil in the north sea that Nadal wont overtake Federers 20 Slams . Neither will Djokovic although he has a better chance i still dont see it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, JimKongUno said: Il bet you all the oil in the north sea that Nadal wont overtake Federers 20 Slams . Neither will Djokovic although he has a better chance i still dont see it . Nadal is 3 behind and Novak 6. You can't say Roger dominated if these two have 17 and 14 grand slams each and are 5 and 6 yrs younger. These 2 were kids when Roger was accumulating his early GSs. Edited December 18, 2018 by ri Alban Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gorgie Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Not that I'm a rowing fan in the slightest but Steve Redgrave is surely worth a mention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor jambo Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 On 17/12/2018 at 02:40, jack D and coke said: O’Sullivan has just passed his amount of majors won. Only a couple behind in world titles now too. Hendry changed snooker and the two of them are head and shoulders above anyone else who’s ever played it. Ronnie is the most naturally talented and could probably beat decent opponents left handed. The issue with Ronnie is .. there is no quality left in opposition now. Hendry played against titans of the baize. Ronnie gets away with his lack of application because of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
132goals1958 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 This topic certainly stimulates the mind as it is not necessarily about the all time best . In athletic field events Al Oerter dominated in the discus with four successive Olympic golds. Amateur sports got much more exposure in years gone by notably in communist countries where professionalism was banned. Lazlo Papp from Hungary won three gold medals at different Olympics and belatedly turned professional and never lost a fight in either the amateur or paid ranks. Teifilo Stevenson the Cuban heavyweight also had similar Olympic success in the boxing ring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 6 hours ago, doctor jambo said: The issue with Ronnie is .. there is no quality left in opposition now. Hendry played against titans of the baize. Ronnie gets away with his lack of application because of this. Isn’t there? I really don’t pay it that much attention anymore. I used to love snooker, played/watched it religiously growing up and still like a game but I probably couldn’t name anymore than probably 3 or 4 players now. Has the money gone from the game or something? It seems to have fallen quite a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 18 minutes ago, jack D and coke said: Isn’t there? I really don’t pay it that much attention anymore. I used to love snooker, played/watched it religiously growing up and still like a game but I probably couldn’t name anymore than probably 3 or 4 players now. Has the money gone from the game or something? It seems to have fallen quite a bit. mark allen, who has just won the scottish open said he did not deserve to be in the final as he was constantly playing with a hangover. in one game at the interval he iirc had a couple of drinks then came out and won the match Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Fudge Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Lennox Lewis (Olympic and Heavyweight world champ and beat every man he faced as a pro) Valentino Rossi Vasyl Lomachenko ( 2 time Olympic champ and three weight professional champion. Combined amateur and professional record 408-2) Chris Hoy Jim Brown Daley Thompson Michael Johnson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Fudge Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 1 hour ago, 132goals1958 said: This topic certainly stimulates the mind as it is not necessarily about the all time best . In athletic field events Al Oerter dominated in the discus with four successive Olympic golds. Amateur sports got much more exposure in years gone by notably in communist countries where professionalism was banned. Lazlo Papp from Hungary won three gold medals at different Olympics and belatedly turned professional and never lost a fight in either the amateur or paid ranks. Teifilo Stevenson the Cuban heavyweight also had similar Olympic success in the boxing ring. Your point on Stevenson and Papp is spot on. They both with time and no politics would have have probably dominated the sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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