jumpship Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 DIANE Abbott has been accused of supporting criminals amid the lawless London crime spree by condemning strong Met Police tactics. Diane Abbott argued that it should “not be legal for anyone” to force moped riders off their bikes. https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/knocking-people-off-bikes-is-potentially-very-dangerous-diane-abbott-faces-furious-backlash-after-she-criticises-scotland-yards-tactic-to-ram-moped-gangs/ar-BBQbTZC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southcap Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 It's a tricky one. It's borderline extrajudicial punishment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 She has a point. But hey, feck them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 An excellent deterrent IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbert. Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 If they don't want knocked off then they shouldn't be dirty thieving *****. Why should they get to go about terrorising people and escape unpunished. They should reverse over them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southcap Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 In saying that, Diane Abbot is a vile, racist bigot. She should be shunned from politics as every other bigot tends to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Turn Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 11 minutes ago, ri Alban said: She has a point. But hey, feck them. This. Live by the sword on all that.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JyTees Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Diane Abbott is way more dangerous than anyone on a moped. I wish the met would take similar action against her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Just think, Diane Abbott could be home secretary one day, maybe even quite soon at that, now that prospect should fill everybody with alarm & dread. For the record, if the dirty thieving little scrotes weren't dirty thieving little scrotes then they wouldn't be getting knocked off their mopeds, simples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Brown Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 34 minutes ago, ri Alban said: She has a point. But hey, feck them. When I seen video footage the other day., it was a moment One of those, if they seriously or kill one, there will be serious shit kicked up. But agreed, **** the thieving *******s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 It’s about time the gloves came off. These moped gangsters are the hardest to catch. You don’t want to get knocked off your bike whilst robbing and assaulting people then the answer is very simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 What if by knocking a suspect thief off of their moped, this then in turn causes a serious accident harming, potentially killing, an innocent bystander? I don't think anyone is trying to condone or stick up for these suspected criminals, but Police tactics need to overseen and need some sort of check and balance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Lyon Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Is summary justice acceptable? Not defending the suspected criminals but it hardly seems right to knock them off their mopeds with the potential for injury to the police involved, innocent bystanders and the thieves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Vehicle crashes are almost impossible to control once they are instigated. The Police need to be very, very careful. All it takes is a fatality either of a bike thief or, worse, an innocent bystander and all hell would break loose. There is a very fine line between apprehending a suspect using appropriate force and plain old police brutality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der Kaiser Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Countless money and research has been invested in making cars pedestrian safe. They should crash into them harder so they land safely and comfortably on the bonnet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamboelite Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Stuart Lyon said: Is summary justice acceptable? Not defending the suspected criminals but it hardly seems right to knock them off their mopeds with the potential for injury to the police involved, innocent bystanders and the thieves. Instead they could kill other people by driving recklessly and also cause violence and fear to the general public. This isnt Mad Max ffs they are skilled to take them off their bikes while mitigating the risk to others and themselves. The thieves know the consequences and as a result it appears to be a good deterrent. People question the softly softly approach but dont want the alternative. Edited November 28, 2018 by Jamboelite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notts1874 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 It seems to be working for the time being but it is a risky policy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor jambo Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 If it stops them throwing acid over people , squash away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boof Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 What happens if the Police target a non-thieving moped rider? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, Boof said: What happens if the Police target a non-thieving moped rider? Diane will be ok with that as long as they're white and or Jewish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronJambo Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 19 minutes ago, Boof said: What happens if the Police target a non-thieving moped rider? The law abiding rider would most likely pull over when asked to do so and a police chase wouldn't happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 2 hours ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: Just think, Diane Abbott could be home secretary one day, maybe even quite soon at that, now that prospect should fill everybody with alarm & dread. For the record, if the dirty thieving little scrotes weren't dirty thieving little scrotes then they wouldn't be getting knocked off their mopeds, simples. just think of the extra police officers we would have with her in government. remember it only costs £30 per year to train a police officer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Lyon Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 If its OK to knock a suspect of his/her moped then the next logical step is for officers to be allowed to immediately truncheon a pedestrian suspect! Great stuff! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 17 minutes ago, Stuart Lyon said: If its OK to knock a suspect of his/her moped then the next logical step is for officers to be allowed to immediately truncheon a pedestrian suspect! Great stuff! You are aware why they have adopted this tactic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 3 hours ago, southcap said: In saying that, Diane Abbot is a vile, racist bigot. She should be shunned from politics as every other bigot tends to be. What an utter pile of dog shite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Behind the scenes this is under review. Police could be charged with assault or similar. But you have to go in hard and determined to sort out these sort of things. Tricky one for the politicians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JyTees Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southcap Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 8 minutes ago, maroonlegions said: What an utter pile of dog shite. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-16423278 And I'm a hardcore leftie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zico Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 It’s cool. When Dianne’s Home Secretary, we’ll get 10,000 more officers for £300k so there’ll be no need for any of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 1 hour ago, milky_26 said: just think of the extra police officers we would have with her in government. remember it only costs £30 per year to train a police officer 2 minutes ago, Zico said: It’s cool. When Dianne’s Home Secretary, we’ll get 10,000 more officers for £300k so there’ll be no need for any of this. It that price the country could afford 1m more police officers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 51 minutes ago, JyTees said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 2 hours ago, Dawnrazor said: Diane will be ok with that as long as they're white and or Jewish. Are Jews not white. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 21 minutes ago, ri Alban said: Are Jews not white. ? Sammy Davis Jnr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 6 minutes ago, Dawnrazor said: Sammy Davis Jnr. Jesus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 7 minutes ago, ri Alban said: Jesus If Jesus was a Jew.......... why the Spanish name? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Just now, Dawnrazor said: If Jesus was a Jew.......... why the Spanish name? I always thought he was a drunk Greek, shouting at his dad. HEY ZEUS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, ri Alban said: I always thought he was a drunk Greek, shouting at his dad. HEY ZEUS! Boom Boom! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyBatistuta Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, Cade said: Vehicle crashes are almost impossible to control once they are instigated. The Police need to be very, very careful. All it takes is a fatality either of a bike thief or, worse, an innocent bystander and all hell would break loose. There is a very fine line between apprehending a suspect using appropriate force and plain old police brutality. If they ever take out any of the moped thieves, they should show the videos live at around 5ish, that way I could really enjoy my dinner and toast the demise of another scummy fekr with a nice glass of red. 2 hours ago, JyTees said: I wonder if it’s too late for a change of career ? One of their latest little games is to steal mopeds, then head in to the town centre and fire about spraying paint on innocent motorists cars as they go by, wouldn’t miss a single one of the wasters. edit: just remembered...it’s not their fault, they were just bored Edited November 28, 2018 by luckyBatistuta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Brown Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 5 minutes ago, Tommy Brown said: Lovely jubbly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpie Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 (edited) Is that video the source of the discussion. I am possibly not seeing the whole thing but I didn't see the police knock anyone off a motor sc ooter. As it may not be the primary video but I saw what I took to be a police vehicle with a dash cam in pursuit of a suspect. The suspect chose to drive at a speed faster than he could control causing him to fall from his scooter. On at least one occasion the scooter rider took off on foot obviously feeling he was guilty of some thing and was avoiding arrest. There used to be an old adage if you can't do the time, don't do the crime. Edited November 28, 2018 by bobsharp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southcap Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 27 minutes ago, luckyBatistuta said: If they ever take out any of the moped thieves, they should show the videos live at around 5ish, that way I could really enjoy my dinner and toast the demise of another scummy fekr with a nice glass of red. I wonder if it’s too late for a change of career ? One of their latest little games is to steal mopeds, then head in to the town centre and fire about spraying paint on innocent motorists cars as they go by, wouldn’t miss a single one of the wasters. edit: just remembered...it’s not their fault, they were just bored look, you will struggle to find many, if any, people who will feel sorry for the ***** who commit these crimes getting attacked by the police. But that's a very narrow outlook on it. The potential to abuse these powers is the concern here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 6 minutes ago, southcap said: look, you will struggle to find many, if any, people who will feel sorry for the ***** who commit these crimes getting attacked by the police. But that's a very narrow outlook on it. The potential to abuse these powers is the concern here. The downside is one of these scumbags will end up suing the police for assault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 17 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said: The downside is one of these scumbags will end up suing the police for assault. Well, the police aren't above the law. If they can't do the time... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, Boris said: Well, the police aren't above the law. If they can't do the time... It isn’t a crime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southcap Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 18 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said: The downside is one of these scumbags will end up suing the police for assault That's not the downside, the downside is when the police do this to the wrong person accidentally or deliberately. A simple case of mistaken identity has can be a death sentence for an innocent person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 1 minute ago, The Real Maroonblood said: It isn’t a crime. Assault? Dangerous driving? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Just now, Boris said: Assault? Dangerous driving? Reasonable force. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Just now, The Real Maroonblood said: Reasonable force. Well then nothing to worry about if sued. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Just now, Boris said: Well then nothing to worry about if sued. Hope so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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