Sexton Hardcastle Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/heartofmidlothianfc/-Hearts-in-bid-to.4215137.jp Okay one minute he wants to leave the club the next day he wants to sign for 5 years? Im guessing get some value on his head and sell him off ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_R Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 or... wage thief! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brow Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 Footballers are for the most part a bunch of greedy gits. Thats pretty much why players will continue to sign for us. It aint rocket science. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor.Arturo Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 I read in the paper the other day, that when we originaly signed him it was a 7 yr deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Gosling Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 I read in the paper the other day, that when we originaly signed him it was a 7 yr deal? 2 and a half with option for 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H.A.N.S Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 Copil is an ideal pre-season training partner. Lightweight for Eddie's piggy back races Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Canada Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 Given our worrying lack of attacking options for next season I say give him a chance in the starting line-up so he can put up or shut up. If he's that good and so highly rated surely he'll be able to cut in the SPL? His age shouldn't matter, people like Rooney and Owen were scoring regularly at his age in the Premiership (not that I'm comparing his abilities to theirs!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GhostHunter Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 "Sign and Sell" The 2 S's Philosophy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CornhillHearts Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 Not sure he will get his 5 year extension suppose it depends what shape he is in, i think he will be freed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H.A.N.S Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 "Sign and Sell" The 2 S's Philosophy Or to extend the philosophy: Sign, drop, p1$$ off, leave to rot, loan, get a fraction of their value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexton Hardcastle Posted June 24, 2008 Author Share Posted June 24, 2008 or **** and a Shave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GhostHunter Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 Or to extend the philosophy: Sign, drop, p1$$ off, leave to rot, loan, get a fraction of their value. The "D,PO,LTR,L & GAFOTV" Philosophy doesn't really work tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H.A.N.S Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 The "D,PO,LTR,L & GAFOTV" Philosophy doesn't really work tho You couldn't tell auld Vlad that, he knows how to run a football club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 It is heartwarming to see players who have given their all to the club rewarded for their efforts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxteth O'Grady Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 A great bit of business, you never know when you might need a homesick back up goalkeeper:eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTBCAL Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 I am surprised at this news - but I assume it's to ensure we get some kind of return on him in the future. One of the coaches told me a while ago that he thought Copil and Branny would leave in the summer - thought both were very talented but maybe didn't have the correct application, possibily due to being away from home at such a young age. You never know - maybe he has such a rude awakening that this be the season for him after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicTs Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 There's nothing like rewarding hard working young professionals. Hearts 5yr deal policy = comfort zone central Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTBCAL Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 There's nothing like rewarding hard working young professionals. Hearts 5yr deal policy = comfort zone central Actually my mate (youth coach at Hearts) said that was a major problem - cannot get rid of some of the youngsters who are not going to make it as they are on lucrative 5yr deals and are reluctant to move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicTs Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 Actually my mate (youth coach at Hearts) said that was a major problem - cannot get rid of some of the youngsters who are not going to make it as they are on lucrative 5yr deals and are reluctant to move on. It is so obvious to anyone in the game, I mean you might give a 5yr contract to a player who is clearly making it and is forcing his way into the first team despite experienced players being ahead of him. Someone who is making a real mark. You give 1 (or possibly 2) year contracts to youngsters who have achieved nothing and who are borderline whether they will ever be Hearts 'class'. You make sure they are hungry, look at discipline and who wants it most, competing against each in training and consistency in matches. The culture we are breeding (look at Elliot for instance) is that it's all too easy to get a long term contract and the attitude that brings is not positive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 Copil must have the same agent as Pinilla. Pinilla hardly kicked a ball for Hearts, Copil does a runner from Hearts. New Contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambonian Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 Copil must have the same agent as Pinilla. Pinilla hardly kicked a ball for Hearts, Copil does a runner from Hearts. New Contract Aye and players that DO want to play for us get treated like shecht, (Brellier, Pressley amongst others) It feels like, the moral of the story is....show a commitment and desire for the club, get shafted, show a lack of commitment, get to play games and be rewarded with generous contracts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chester copperpot Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 And the firesale continues. I know that smacks in the face of someone signing but FFS, he wasn't good enough for the U-19's, he was homesick, I just think we've done this to recoup some money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Gosling Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 And the firesale continues. I know that smacks in the face of someone signing but FFS, he wasn't good enough for the U-19's, he was homesick, I just think we've done this to recoup some money. Nae offence mate but DUH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie-Brown Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 Regards the fire-sale theory - how is it possible to sell Copil (or Pinilla or Nade) unless they start making a decent footballing contribution and show their capabilities be this in the youth team or first team etc. Their value would be much less by rarely playing compared to them playing and being productive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 Regards the fire-sale theory - how is it possible to sell Copil (or Pinilla or Nade) unless they start making a decent footballing contribution and show their capabilities be this in the youth team or first team etc. Their value would be much less by rarely playing compared to them playing and being productive. Vlad seemed to do quite well on not playing Bednar and then selling him on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walton1983 Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/heartofmidlothianfc/-Hearts-in-bid-to.4215137.jp Okay one minute he wants to leave the club the next day he wants to sign for 5 years? Im guessing get some value on his head and sell him off ? This seems like the agent trying to get a deal for a player who previously hated being at Hearts and was homesick. What's changed. Doubt he will get any deal but you never know what Romanov will do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JamboRobbo Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 Regards the fire-sale theory - how is it possible to sell Copil (or Pinilla or Nade) unless they start making a decent footballing contribution and show their capabilities be this in the youth team or first team etc. Their value would be much less by rarely playing compared to them playing and being productive. Just look at Bednar or Jose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walton1983 Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 Actually my mate (youth coach at Hearts) said that was a major problem - cannot get rid of some of the youngsters who are not going to make it as they are on lucrative 5yr deals and are reluctant to move on. Not just a problem with youngsters. Same goes for Elliot, Mole, Neilson etc. All on better money than they could possibly get elsewhere and Hearts would need to pay some of their contracts to help offset the loss of wages if they went to say Inverness for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin_T Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 And the firesale continues. I know that smacks in the face of someone signing but FFS, he wasn't good enough for the U-19's, he was homesick, I just think we've done this to recoup some money. A firesale by definition, is selling off all of a companies assets at a discount price when the company is facing impending distress or bankruptcy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_Sale Given Hearts have turned down bids so far this summer for Berra, Driver and Goncalves and are apparently actively seeking to employ a manager on circa 350,000 pa, can I suggest that 'fire sale' is completely the wrong terminology to be using? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jam Tarts 1874 Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 Vlad seemed to do quite well on not playing Bednar and then selling him on. Bednar lost his place in the team because he was rubbish. How anyone could suggest that Romanov deliberately didn't want him playing is beyond me, there is no evidence whatsover to back up your comment. Loaning him out with an option to buy was a very good piece of business. Bednar will not be scoring many goals in the Premiership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jam Tarts 1874 Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 A firesale by definition, is selling off all of a companies assets at a discount price when the company is facing impending distress or bankruptcy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_Sale Given Hearts have turned down bids so far this summer for Berra, Driver and Goncalves and are apparently actively seeking to employ a manager on circa 350,000 pa, can I suggest that 'fire sale' is completely the wrong terminology to be using? Some people only see what they want to see and are too immature to look at the facts objectively. Martin T I think you are wasting your time trying to talk any sense on here, this site is full of kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 Bednar lost his place in the team because he was rubbish. How anyone could suggest that Romanov deliberately didn't want him playing is beyond me, there is no evidence whatsover to back up your comment. Loaning him out with an option to buy was a very good piece of business. Bednar will not be scoring many goals in the Premiership. :rofl: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malcmac Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 And let's stop talking about re-couping money. Players are sold and we never see any of this so-called re-couped money. Values of bids on our players are of no consequence to me whatsoever these days. Scam scam scam scam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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