campbell Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 A lot of empty seats from tv cameras, is this season tickets on holiday or have the dot counters got it wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicTs Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 More likely the ticket office are incompetent to be honest and are not feeling all available tickets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterintheRain Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Every ticket has been sold, therefore it is sold out. We've been through this before. In the USA they have (or used to have) strict rules on broadcasting games in their local TV markets. The phrase used is "subject to blackout". This is to encourage people to go to the actual stadium to watch. However when the match is sold out they allow a local broadcast. The definition off sold out was never every ticket sold and every seat occupied as that would be insane. Sold out means 95% or above of tickets have been sold regardless of whether the purchaser attends the match. Since it's that time of year again you could watch the Tattoo. They'll announce every ticket as being sold but there will still be empty seats in the stands most nights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
campbell Posted August 11, 2018 Author Share Posted August 11, 2018 1 minute ago, PeterintheRain said: Every ticket has been sold, therefore it is sold out. We've been through this before. In the USA they have (or used to have) strict rules on broadcasting games in their local TV markets. The phrase used is "subject to blackout". This is to encourage people to go to the actual stadium to watch. However when the match is sold out they allow a local broadcast. The definition off sold out was never every ticket sold and every seat occupied as that would be insane. Sold out means 95% or above of tickets have been sold regardless of whether the purchaser attends the match. Since it's that time of year again you could watch the Tattoo. They'll announce every ticket as being sold but there will still be empty seats in the stands most nights. Settle down, im fully aware of how it works thank, that being said I don’t think the stadium was 95% full, I was also just asking if people thought it was due to season tickets being away etc or if there is a error with the ticketing system as people have reported issue with wrong seat being sold and wrong tickets being sent out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Anybody know the figure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo dans les Pyrenees Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 19.1k is official report which does seem weird given it’s a sell out and our capacity is supposed to be around 20k mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
campbell Posted August 11, 2018 Author Share Posted August 11, 2018 BBC reporting 19,133 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 To some people it’s important, to some it’s not. But a lot people have always been sceptical as to whether our capacity is really over 20,000? With ongoing works and rejigs around the ground I don’t think the club have officially announced what it is yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Who ****ing cares. Heart of Midlothian 1 Celtic 0. That is all that matters today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
campbell Posted August 11, 2018 Author Share Posted August 11, 2018 17 minutes ago, Debut 4 said: To some people it’s important, to some it’s not. But a lot people have always been sceptical as to whether our capacity is really over 20,000? With ongoing works and rejigs around the ground I don’t think the club have officially announced what it is yet. I understand that I don’t think we will know for another 6/8 months, that said I was surprised at the empty seats in the lower sections of the main and Gorgie stand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Brown Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 9 minutes ago, John Findlay said: Who ****ing cares. Heart of Midlothian 1 Celtic 0. That is all that matters today. Keep up this form, we will have "sold out" at every home game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubanjambo Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 20 minutes ago, John Findlay said: Who ****ing cares. Heart of Midlothian 1 Celtic 0. That is all that matters today. this guy's got it right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CALUM2005 Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Got to my seat today just before KO, and the wee man took unwell, had to take him home so that's 2 empty seats accounted for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
campbell Posted August 11, 2018 Author Share Posted August 11, 2018 31 minutes ago, John Findlay said: Who ****ing cares. Heart of Midlothian 1 Celtic 0. That is all that matters today. Very true, I just followed us dot count over the week and was expecting to see it packed that’s all! Great win and well deserved, probably the most comfortable I have seen is against Celtic in years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James1874f Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 H1b5 are playing tomorrow dot count that if your bored Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericb Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Massive chunk of empty seats in main stand towards gorgie , high up premium empty, chunk towards police box, and the usual that never seem to be filled in gorgie , couldn’t assess wheat field as I was in it. It shouldn’t really bother me but I’d love to see the ground full some time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amadjambo Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 The same chunk of seats sitting empty in the main stand that have been empty every game. Bizarre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicTs Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, ericb said: Massive chunk of empty seats in main stand towards gorgie , high up premium empty, chunk towards police box, and the usual that never seem to be filled in gorgie , couldn’t assess wheat field as I was in it. It shouldn’t really bother me but I’d love to see the ground full some time This has to be because they are not reallocating seats earmarked for hospitality / club use for sale to the public. Think Budgie needs to be looking into this with the ticket office! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clerry Jambo Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 My opinion for what it’s worth is we are trying to push hospitality which I understand is where we will make money. However I’m sure seats could have been sold to the punter but were being held back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graham Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Clerry Jambo said: My opinion for what it’s worth is we are trying to push hospitality which I understand is where we will make money. However I’m sure seats could have been sold to the punter but were being held back It’s exactly that and needs addressed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
campbell Posted August 11, 2018 Author Share Posted August 11, 2018 (edited) 33 minutes ago, James1874f said: H1b5 are playing tomorrow dot count that if your bored Not 100% sure what you’re trying to imply but you can go take a long walk off a pier if you think im hibs or trolling, it was a honest question Edited August 11, 2018 by campbell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Don't understand why the unused hospitality seats in the Gorgie Stamd were not released. Or indeed why more effort wasn' t made to sell gorgie suite hospitality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 39 minutes ago, Clerry Jambo said: My opinion for what it’s worth is we are trying to push hospitality which I understand is where we will make money. However I’m sure seats could have been sold to the punter but were being held back We dont make much money from unsold hospitality Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobNox Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Francis Albert said: Don't understand why the unused hospitality seats in the Gorgie Stamd were not released. Or indeed why more effort wasn' t made to sell gorgie suite hospitality. I agree. I understand there has to be a balancing act and we were maybe hoping to sell more hospitality places to fans desperate to get a ticket, but once the rest of the tickets had sold out, we should have started to release the unsold hospitality seats. We could have done this in tranches, so that there were still some hospitality packages available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beats Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 I heard today our actual capacity is just over 19500. Not that it matters but the club should probably clarify Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James1874f Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 3 hours ago, campbell said: Not 100% sure what you’re trying to imply but you can go take a long walk off a pier if you think im hibs or trolling, it was a honest question Had a few beers mate I apologise:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brave Hearts Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 6 hours ago, campbell said: A lot of empty seats from tv cameras, is this season tickets on holiday or have the dot counters got it wrong? Crowd was over 19,100 What’s your point ?? What’s your problem ?? Guess by your observation about view from the TV that you were not there....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch41 Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 5 hours ago, John Findlay said: Who ****ing cares. Heart of Midlothian 1 Celtic 0. That is all that matters today. True we're all having a party tonight but why was there so many seats not sold. It's not as if it was one here and there as there were full rows empty. What is going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stirlo Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Brave Hearts said: Crowd was over 19,100 What’s your point ?? What’s your problem ?? Guess by your observation about view from the TV that you were not there...…. I think it's a reasonable question. The game was supposed to be a sell-out and yet there were clearly hundreds of empty seats - many clustered together, which suggested the seats were not put up for sale to the public at all (as opposed to hospitality). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clerry Jambo Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Just now, stirlo said: I think it's a reasonable question. The game was supposed to be a sell-out and yet there were clearly hundreds of empty seats - many clustered together, which suggested the seats were not put up for sale to the public at all (as opposed to hospitality). this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 The empty hospitality seats is something the club can look to deal with in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brave Hearts Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 1 minute ago, stirlo said: I think it's a reasonable question. The game was supposed to be a sell-out and yet there were clearly hundreds of empty seats - many clustered together, which suggested the seats were not put up for sale to the public at all (as opposed to hospitality). Folk more interested in a few empty seats !!! We have just beat the reigning Champions of Scotland !!!! How pedantic some folk are ........ Celebrate this great victory ..... Rather than nit picking about empty seats ..... what is is football about ??? Winning games or filling all the seats ?? Personally, winning games is what it is all about over whether we had a few empty seats ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jodami Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 9 minutes ago, stirlo said: I think it's a reasonable question. The game was supposed to be a sell-out and yet there were clearly hundreds of empty seats - many clustered together, which suggested the seats were not put up for sale to the public at all (as opposed to hospitality). 100% this. My son had an issue with his season ticket card so we had to go the ticket office 10 mins before the game to get it sorted out - people behind us in the queue tried to buy tickets and were told it was sold out. We sit in the main stand just behind the big empty block of what I presume are hospitality seats (which Hearts also said was sold out earlier this week). Very poor organisation and surely not difficult to sort out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brave Hearts Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 6 hours ago, magicTs said: More likely the ticket office are incompetent to be honest and are not feeling all available tickets. How are the tickets office incompetent if folk with season tickets or even bought tickets don’t actually turn up to the game on the day ????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upgotheheads Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Quit a lot of season ticket holders will be on holidays. Schools still off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son Of Anarchy Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Strange folks ? if empty seats are your first thoughts in posting after beating Celtic at Tynie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Brave Hearts said: How are the tickets office incompetent if folk with season tickets or even bought tickets don’t actually turn up to the game on the day ????? The attendance reported is tickets sold not bums on seats. So the question is why were tickets sold about 900 fewer than our claimed capacity. Not a trivial number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvery_Moon Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 We had in excess of 19,300 twice against Hibs last season and since then we have made more seats available for sale. Definitely seems like some seats have been held back for whatever reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brave Hearts Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Francis Albert said: The attendance reported is tickets sold not bums on seats. So the question is why were tickets sold about 900 fewer than our claimed capacity. Not a trivial number. Season ticket holders on holiday or not turning up for whatever reason ?????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Just now, Brave Hearts said: Season ticket holders on holiday or not turning up for whatever reason ?????? They are counted in the announced attendance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brave Hearts Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Son Of Anarchy said: Strange folks ? if empty seats are your first thoughts in posting after beating Celtic at Tynie. Spot on !!!! Edited August 11, 2018 by Brave Hearts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clerry Jambo Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 If the attendance is 19,100 tickets sold, there is no danger the capacity is near 20K Not that I care, but these are the facts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 9 minutes ago, upgotheheads said: Quit a lot of season ticket holders will be on holidays. Schools still off. This. In addition, a lot of parents, like me, don’t subject our kids to those verminous ****s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brave Hearts Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 We have just had a 1-0 victory over the reigning champions of Scotland with a crowd of 19,100 A few years ago we got beat by the victims 7-0 in Scottish Cup with a crowd of 10,636. Massive turnaround in the result ............ Massive increase in the attendance ....... Some folk seem to have a non-football agenda against our club..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Its the grouped together seats in the new stand that stand out (pardon the pun). As for comments about 1st thing to talk about after beating celtic again I'm sure posters can manage to post on multiple threads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicTs Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Brave Hearts said: How are the tickets office incompetent if folk with season tickets or even bought tickets don’t actually turn up to the game on the day ????? Clearly some ST holders will always be missing. That’s got nothing to do with several areas in Hearts stands (Main Stand and Gorgie) where blocks of seats were empty and had nothing to do with ST seats. They were clearly withheld for hospitality or the clubs own use which is pretty ridiculous when there was no tickets available to the public by yesterday evening. It should be looked at for the future and rectified. Edited August 11, 2018 by magicTs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brave Hearts Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 5 minutes ago, magicTs said: Clearly some ST holders will always be missing. That’s got nothing to do with several areas in Hearts stands (Main Stand and Gorgie) where blocks of seats were empty and had nothing to do with ST seats. They were clearly withheld for hospitality or the clubs own use which is pretty ridiculous when there was no tickets available to the public by yesterday evening. It should be looked at for the future and rectified. Glad at least some of us are happy and celebrating that we won today with a great victory............ but but but but a few seats were empty ......................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
queensferryjambo Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 6 hours ago, John Findlay said: Who ****ing cares. Heart of Midlothian 1 Celtic 0. That is all that matters today. THIS 100% If there was empty seats then some Hearts fans missed out on a famous victory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartsfc_fan Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 I wonder if those unsold ones in the upper part of the main stand were originally planned for the second floor/sky bar hospitality. If Hearts can't sell them why not flog them as the premium seats? They would've sold them as ordinary seats today. Same goes for the back of the Gorgie - about 100 odd empty there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 50 minutes ago, Clerry Jambo said: If the attendance is 19,100 tickets sold, there is no danger the capacity is near 20K Not that I care, but these are the facts! Close enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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