"Problematic language" in Scottish schools

[Gorgiewave]

Not dobber, *****, etc.

 

The cretinous, timorous, ignorant Scottish regional council has come out with the following document (it can be found on google by searching '"Problematic Language" Education Scotland').

 

Prevent: Safeguarding vulnerable individuals

 

Language and terminology guidance

 

 

 

Purpose:

 

 

 

·         Education Scotland and the Scottish Government recognise the importance of using appropriate and accurate language when leading discussions with children and young people, and this is particularly important when exploring current global social and political issues. Doing so minimises the risk of any individual feeling targeted, offended, stigmatised and/or unfairly represented. 

·         This Language guidance provides an overview of some of the appropriate terminology which is used when discussing the themes, topics and groups who feature across the spectrum of violent extremism and terrorism both in Scotland and internationally.

·         You are encouraged to be reflective – think carefully before selecting the right words for your context and ask yourself what you really mean.

 

 

 

Discussion Topic	Safe Language	Problematic Language
General	Criminals – It may be preferable to refer to terrorists as criminals (and/or murderers) who seek to undermine the values that we all share. This devalues their supposed cause.	Extremists/Extremism – defined in the UK Government’s Prevent strategy since 2011 as ‘the vocal or active opposition to fundamental British values, including democracy, the rule of law, individual liberty and mutual respect and tolerance of different faiths and beliefs’.  This is problematic language because the concept of ‘British values’ can cause offence and could play into the hands of groups who seek to assert that there is an inherent conflict between being British and being Muslim.
	Violent Extremists – those who use violence to further their cause.  The good thing about this label is that it makes the violence the focus.	Radical and extreme are adjectives that should not be used to describe groups, activities or individuals in this context.
	Terrorism is defined in the 2000 Act as:  the use or threat of action designed to influence the government or to intimidate the public or a section of the public … for the purpose of advancing a political, religious or ideological cause.	‘War on terror’ and similar phrases which use imagery of battles should be avoided.  These play into the military and violent language and symbolism of the narratives used by terrorist groups.
Values	Shared Values - Curriculum for Excellence defines and supports learning about the values and attitudes that our children and young people need to become responsible citizens who respect other people, different beliefs and cultures. Young people learn how these are fundamental in both local and global communities.	British Values – this language is problematic because the concept of ‘British values’ can cause offence and could play into the hands of groups who seek to assert that there is an inherent conflict between being British and being Muslim.
Prevent	Safeguarding Vulnerable Individuals – a concerted effort has been made to position activity in Scotland to prevent radicalisation as an additional safeguarding issue. This underscores that Prevent operates in a pre-criminal space and has the wellbeing of the vulnerable individual as its primary concern.
Extreme Right Wing or Left Wing	Extreme Right Wing or Left Wing – those organisations or individuals who have rejected democratic means of achieving their aims and objectives (and therefore embraced violence).	Domestic Extremism – although this is the correct and widely used phrase to describe the threat from a range of groups including the Extreme Right Wing or Left Wing it is problematic because the use of ‘domestic’ to describe British nationals engaging in such activity suggests that British nationals involved in other causes are somehow foreign.  It therefore plays up difference and feeds the ‘them and us’ world view being spread by terrorist groups.
	Far Right – those groups or individuals who do not go so far as to espouse violence.  Electoral far right -  this would include those parties who have stood in elections such as the British National Party or National Front.
Northern Ireland Related Terrorism	Criminals – It would be preferable to refer to criminals or those opposed to peace, as these terms devalue their supposed cause.	Terrorists – although correct and acceptable to many in the community, it may be better to avoid using where possible, replacing with ‘Criminals’ instead.
	Dissident Republicans – this term is widely used for those groups who are violently opposed to the peace process. While not ideal language, especially within the wider Republican community, the term Dissident has become more associated with violent types in NI rather than its more common meaning.	Republicans - Regularly (but incorrectly) used to refer to parties/groups who countenance the use of violence to promote Irish unity. To be avoided except in the correct historical or current political context.
	Loyalist Paramilitary Groups – this term is widely used for those groups who violently oppose Irish Republicanism.	Loyalists - Acceptable when used accurately in the context of supporters of the PUP (Progressive Unionist Party), otherwise best avoided due to overtones of militancy.
Al-Qa’eda Inspired Violent Extremists	Al-Qa’eda Inspired Violent Extremists (AQIVE)   This phrase is considered to be the best way of describing the various terrorist groups and individuals who align to the Islamist ‘single narrative’.     Al-Qa’eda is a terrorist organisation whose leadership is based in Afghanistan.     ISIL/ISIS – refer to the terrorist organisation Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant, or Islamic State in Iraq and Sham (the Arabic word for Syria). The acronym for the Arabic name for the group is DAESH	Islamist extremist/terrorist – there is always a danger in using the word ‘Islamist’ as non-expert audiences are likely to hear ‘Islamic’ and all audiences will make a connection to the Muslim faith.  This phrase is best avoided.       The terms Jihad/jihadist can cause offence in Muslim communities when used in place of terrorism/terrorist. This is because Jihad simply means ‘struggle’ and within the context of Islam it can represent a range of challenges from the spiritual and physical challenge observed through Ramadan through to simply trying to be a better person. The word is most commonly used in the media as a reference to military jihad or a holy war.  This is problematic and can reinforce the propaganda of groups who attempt to portray their violent acts as having a religious justification.      Islamic State or IS – Avoid these names as it conveys a sense of legitimacy and statehood on the terrorist organisation ISIS. The Caliphate.  Many Muslims would find it highly offensive to hear mentions to the Caliphate. This term is best avoided, instead referring to ‘territory controlled by ISIS’.

[LesJambes]

This week I've decided to be offended by the word jambo. It's okay for us to say it, but not anyone else.

[Adam Murray]

54 minutes ago, Gorgiewave said:

Not dobber, *****, etc.

 

The cretinous, timorous, ignorant Scottish regional council has come out with the following document (it can be found on google by searching '"Problematic Language" Education Scotland').

 

It's through the same crisis of confidence in Britain that the SNP rats, hallucinators and chancers have seeped through.

 

Prevent: Safeguarding vulnerable individuals

 

Language and terminology guidance

 

 

 

Purpose:

 

 

 

·         Education Scotland and the Scottish Government recognise the importance of using appropriate and accurate language when leading discussions with children and young people, and this is particularly important when exploring current global social and political issues. Doing so minimises the risk of any individual feeling targeted, offended, stigmatised and/or unfairly represented. 

 

·         This Language guidance provides an overview of some of the appropriate terminology which is used when discussing the themes, topics and groups who feature across the spectrum of violent extremism and terrorism both in Scotland and internationally.

 

·         You are encouraged to be reflective – think carefully before selecting the right words for your context and ask yourself what you really mean.

 

 

 

 

 

Discussion Topic	Safe Language	Problematic Language
General	Criminals – It may be preferable to refer to terrorists as criminals (and/or murderers) who seek to undermine the values that we all share. This devalues their supposed cause.	Extremists/Extremism – defined in the UK Government’s Prevent strategy since 2011 as ‘the vocal or active opposition to fundamental British values, including democracy, the rule of law, individual liberty and mutual respect and tolerance of different faiths and beliefs’.    This is problematic language because the concept of ‘British values’ can cause offence and could play into the hands of groups who seek to assert that there is an inherent conflict between being British and being Muslim.
	Violent Extremists – those who use violence to further their cause.  The good thing about this label is that it makes the violence the focus.	Radical and extreme are adjectives that should not be used to describe groups, activities or individuals in this context.
	Terrorism is defined in the 2000 Act as:  the use or threat of action designed to influence the government or to intimidate the public or a section of the public … for the purpose of advancing a political, religious or ideological cause.	‘War on terror’ and similar phrases which use imagery of battles should be avoided.  These play into the military and violent language and symbolism of the narratives used by terrorist groups.
Values	Shared Values - Curriculum for Excellence defines and supports learning about the values and attitudes that our children and young people need to become responsible citizens who respect other people, different beliefs and cultures. Young people learn how these are fundamental in both local and global communities.	British Values – this language is problematic because the concept of ‘British values’ can cause offence and could play into the hands of groups who seek to assert that there is an inherent conflict between being British and being Muslim.
Prevent	Safeguarding Vulnerable Individuals – a concerted effort has been made to position activity in Scotland to prevent radicalisation as an additional safeguarding issue. This underscores that Prevent operates in a pre-criminal space and has the wellbeing of the vulnerable individual as its primary concern.
Extreme Right Wing or Left Wing	Extreme Right Wing or Left Wing – those organisations or individuals who have rejected democratic means of achieving their aims and objectives (and therefore embraced violence).	Domestic Extremism – although this is the correct and widely used phrase to describe the threat from a range of groups including the Extreme Right Wing or Left Wing it is problematic because the use of ‘domestic’ to describe British nationals engaging in such activity suggests that British nationals involved in other causes are somehow foreign.  It therefore plays up difference and feeds the ‘them and us’ world view being spread by terrorist groups.
	Far Right – those groups or individuals who do not go so far as to espouse violence.    Electoral far right -  this would include those parties who have stood in elections such as the British National Party or National Front.
Northern Ireland Related Terrorism	Criminals – It would be preferable to refer to criminals or those opposed to peace, as these terms devalue their supposed cause.	Terrorists – although correct and acceptable to many in the community, it may be better to avoid using where possible, replacing with ‘Criminals’ instead.
	Dissident Republicans – this term is widely used for those groups who are violently opposed to the peace process. While not ideal language, especially within the wider Republican community, the term Dissident has become more associated with violent types in NI rather than its more common meaning.	Republicans - Regularly (but incorrectly) used to refer to parties/groups who countenance the use of violence to promote Irish unity. To be avoided except in the correct historical or current political context.
	Loyalist Paramilitary Groups – this term is widely used for those groups who violently oppose Irish Republicanism.	Loyalists - Acceptable when used accurately in the context of supporters of the PUP (Progressive Unionist Party), otherwise best avoided due to overtones of militancy.
Al-Qa’eda Inspired Violent Extremists	Al-Qa’eda Inspired Violent Extremists (AQIVE)   This phrase is considered to be the best way of describing the various terrorist groups and individuals who align to the Islamist ‘single narrative’.       Al-Qa’eda is a terrorist organisation whose leadership is based in Afghanistan.       ISIL/ISIS – refer to the terrorist organisation Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant, or Islamic State in Iraq and Sham (the Arabic word for Syria). The acronym for the Arabic name for the group is DAESH	Islamist extremist/terrorist – there is always a danger in using the word ‘Islamist’ as non-expert audiences are likely to hear ‘Islamic’ and all audiences will make a connection to the Muslim faith.  This phrase is best avoided.         The terms Jihad/jihadist can cause offence in Muslim communities when used in place of terrorism/terrorist. This is because Jihad simply means ‘struggle’ and within the context of Islam it can represent a range of challenges from the spiritual and physical challenge observed through Ramadan through to simply trying to be a better person. The word is most commonly used in the media as a reference to military jihad or a holy war.  This is problematic and can reinforce the propaganda of groups who attempt to portray their violent acts as having a religious justification.        Islamic State or IS – Avoid these names as it conveys a sense of legitimacy and statehood on the terrorist organisation ISIS.   The Caliphate.  Many Muslims would find it highly offensive to hear mentions to the Caliphate. This term is best avoided, instead referring to ‘territory controlled by ISIS’.

 

 

Does it come in Gaelic?

[Adam Murray]

41 minutes ago, LesJambes said:

This week I've decided to be offended by the word jambo. It's okay for us to say it, but not anyone else.

 

It is a pretty crap word anyway, much prefer jamtart 

[LesJambes]

3 minutes ago, Adam Murray said:

 

It is a pretty crap word anyway, much prefer jamtart 

I object to being slut-shamed! ?

[Eldar Hadzimehmedovic]

Seems like a reasonable, inoffensive piece of guidance. Struggling to see how that would provoke such anger tbh. 

[Unknown user]

58 minutes ago, ri Alban said:

Feck your Britain, so good you left. If you've a problem with ma language. So feck.

 

I didn't see No voter: A treacherous scumbag who sold out Scotland.

Why bother? He lights the touch paper with inflammatory terms he'd go mental about if aimed at the tories, then watches you dance.

If you're happy to be that puppet, crack on, but you're giving him exactly what he wants, every time. 

 

[Dusk_Till_Dawn]

Do Schools need guidance on this? How many times does 'Loyalist Paramilitary Groups' come up in Scottish lessons?

[XB52]

2 hours ago, Gorgiewave said:

Not dobber, *****, etc.

 

The cretinous, timorous, ignorant Scottish regional council has come out with the following document (it can be found on google by searching '"Problematic Language" Education Scotland').

 

It's through the same crisis of confidence in Britain that the SNP rats, hallucinators and chancers have seeped through.

 

Prevent: Safeguarding vulnerable individuals

 

Language and terminology guidance

 

 

 

Purpose:

 

 

 

·         Education Scotland and the Scottish Government recognise the importance of using appropriate and accurate language when leading discussions with children and young people, and this is particularly important when exploring current global social and political issues. Doing so minimises the risk of any individual feeling targeted, offended, stigmatised and/or unfairly represented. 

 

·         This Language guidance provides an overview of some of the appropriate terminology which is used when discussing the themes, topics and groups who feature across the spectrum of violent extremism and terrorism both in Scotland and internationally.

 

·         You are encouraged to be reflective – think carefully before selecting the right words for your context and ask yourself what you really mean.

 

 

 

 

 

Discussion Topic	Safe Language	Problematic Language
General	Criminals – It may be preferable to refer to terrorists as criminals (and/or murderers) who seek to undermine the values that we all share. This devalues their supposed cause.	Extremists/Extremism – defined in the UK Government’s Prevent strategy since 2011 as ‘the vocal or active opposition to fundamental British values, including democracy, the rule of law, individual liberty and mutual respect and tolerance of different faiths and beliefs’.    This is problematic language because the concept of ‘British values’ can cause offence and could play into the hands of groups who seek to assert that there is an inherent conflict between being British and being Muslim.
	Violent Extremists – those who use violence to further their cause.  The good thing about this label is that it makes the violence the focus.	Radical and extreme are adjectives that should not be used to describe groups, activities or individuals in this context.
	Terrorism is defined in the 2000 Act as:  the use or threat of action designed to influence the government or to intimidate the public or a section of the public … for the purpose of advancing a political, religious or ideological cause.	‘War on terror’ and similar phrases which use imagery of battles should be avoided.  These play into the military and violent language and symbolism of the narratives used by terrorist groups.
Values	Shared Values - Curriculum for Excellence defines and supports learning about the values and attitudes that our children and young people need to become responsible citizens who respect other people, different beliefs and cultures. Young people learn how these are fundamental in both local and global communities.	British Values – this language is problematic because the concept of ‘British values’ can cause offence and could play into the hands of groups who seek to assert that there is an inherent conflict between being British and being Muslim.
Prevent	Safeguarding Vulnerable Individuals – a concerted effort has been made to position activity in Scotland to prevent radicalisation as an additional safeguarding issue. This underscores that Prevent operates in a pre-criminal space and has the wellbeing of the vulnerable individual as its primary concern.
Extreme Right Wing or Left Wing	Extreme Right Wing or Left Wing – those organisations or individuals who have rejected democratic means of achieving their aims and objectives (and therefore embraced violence).	Domestic Extremism – although this is the correct and widely used phrase to describe the threat from a range of groups including the Extreme Right Wing or Left Wing it is problematic because the use of ‘domestic’ to describe British nationals engaging in such activity suggests that British nationals involved in other causes are somehow foreign.  It therefore plays up difference and feeds the ‘them and us’ world view being spread by terrorist groups.
	Far Right – those groups or individuals who do not go so far as to espouse violence.    Electoral far right -  this would include those parties who have stood in elections such as the British National Party or National Front.
Northern Ireland Related Terrorism	Criminals – It would be preferable to refer to criminals or those opposed to peace, as these terms devalue their supposed cause.	Terrorists – although correct and acceptable to many in the community, it may be better to avoid using where possible, replacing with ‘Criminals’ instead.
	Dissident Republicans – this term is widely used for those groups who are violently opposed to the peace process. While not ideal language, especially within the wider Republican community, the term Dissident has become more associated with violent types in NI rather than its more common meaning.	Republicans - Regularly (but incorrectly) used to refer to parties/groups who countenance the use of violence to promote Irish unity. To be avoided except in the correct historical or current political context.
	Loyalist Paramilitary Groups – this term is widely used for those groups who violently oppose Irish Republicanism.	Loyalists - Acceptable when used accurately in the context of supporters of the PUP (Progressive Unionist Party), otherwise best avoided due to overtones of militancy.
Al-Qa’eda Inspired Violent Extremists	Al-Qa’eda Inspired Violent Extremists (AQIVE)   This phrase is considered to be the best way of describing the various terrorist groups and individuals who align to the Islamist ‘single narrative’.       Al-Qa’eda is a terrorist organisation whose leadership is based in Afghanistan.       ISIL/ISIS – refer to the terrorist organisation Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant, or Islamic State in Iraq and Sham (the Arabic word for Syria). The acronym for the Arabic name for the group is DAESH	Islamist extremist/terrorist – there is always a danger in using the word ‘Islamist’ as non-expert audiences are likely to hear ‘Islamic’ and all audiences will make a connection to the Muslim faith.  This phrase is best avoided.         The terms Jihad/jihadist can cause offence in Muslim communities when used in place of terrorism/terrorist. This is because Jihad simply means ‘struggle’ and within the context of Islam it can represent a range of challenges from the spiritual and physical challenge observed through Ramadan through to simply trying to be a better person. The word is most commonly used in the media as a reference to military jihad or a holy war.  This is problematic and can reinforce the propaganda of groups who attempt to portray their violent acts as having a religious justification.        Islamic State or IS – Avoid these names as it conveys a sense of legitimacy and statehood on the terrorist organisation ISIS.   The Caliphate.  Many Muslims would find it highly offensive to hear mentions to the Caliphate. This term is best avoided, instead referring to ‘territory controlled by ISIS’.

What a totally sad life you must lead. You spend all day looking for some anti-SNP stuff so you can run on here. The fact you have total disdain for the parliament of our country is a bit ironic when you don't even live here. Total saddo. Actually having read smithee's post above, time to add your trolling crap on ignore

[John Findlay]

2 hours ago, Gorgiewave said:

Not dobber, *****, etc.

 

The cretinous, timorous, ignorant Scottish regional council has come out with the following document (it can be found on google by searching '"Problematic Language" Education Scotland').

 

It's through the same crisis of confidence in Britain that the SNP rats, hallucinators and chancers have seeped through.

 

Prevent: Safeguarding vulnerable individuals

 

Language and terminology guidance

 

 

 

Purpose:

 

 

 

·         Education Scotland and the Scottish Government recognise the importance of using appropriate and accurate language when leading discussions with children and young people, and this is particularly important when exploring current global social and political issues. Doing so minimises the risk of any individual feeling targeted, offended, stigmatised and/or unfairly represented. 

 

·         This Language guidance provides an overview of some of the appropriate terminology which is used when discussing the themes, topics and groups who feature across the spectrum of violent extremism and terrorism both in Scotland and internationally.

 

·         You are encouraged to be reflective – think carefully before selecting the right words for your context and ask yourself what you really mean.

 

 

 

 

 

Discussion Topic	Safe Language	Problematic Language
General	Criminals – It may be preferable to refer to terrorists as criminals (and/or murderers) who seek to undermine the values that we all share. This devalues their supposed cause.	Extremists/Extremism – defined in the UK Government’s Prevent strategy since 2011 as ‘the vocal or active opposition to fundamental British values, including democracy, the rule of law, individual liberty and mutual respect and tolerance of different faiths and beliefs’.    This is problematic language because the concept of ‘British values’ can cause offence and could play into the hands of groups who seek to assert that there is an inherent conflict between being British and being Muslim.
	Violent Extremists – those who use violence to further their cause.  The good thing about this label is that it makes the violence the focus.	Radical and extreme are adjectives that should not be used to describe groups, activities or individuals in this context.
	Terrorism is defined in the 2000 Act as:  the use or threat of action designed to influence the government or to intimidate the public or a section of the public … for the purpose of advancing a political, religious or ideological cause.	‘War on terror’ and similar phrases which use imagery of battles should be avoided.  These play into the military and violent language and symbolism of the narratives used by terrorist groups.
Values	Shared Values - Curriculum for Excellence defines and supports learning about the values and attitudes that our children and young people need to become responsible citizens who respect other people, different beliefs and cultures. Young people learn how these are fundamental in both local and global communities.	British Values – this language is problematic because the concept of ‘British values’ can cause offence and could play into the hands of groups who seek to assert that there is an inherent conflict between being British and being Muslim.
Prevent	Safeguarding Vulnerable Individuals – a concerted effort has been made to position activity in Scotland to prevent radicalisation as an additional safeguarding issue. This underscores that Prevent operates in a pre-criminal space and has the wellbeing of the vulnerable individual as its primary concern.
Extreme Right Wing or Left Wing	Extreme Right Wing or Left Wing – those organisations or individuals who have rejected democratic means of achieving their aims and objectives (and therefore embraced violence).	Domestic Extremism – although this is the correct and widely used phrase to describe the threat from a range of groups including the Extreme Right Wing or Left Wing it is problematic because the use of ‘domestic’ to describe British nationals engaging in such activity suggests that British nationals involved in other causes are somehow foreign.  It therefore plays up difference and feeds the ‘them and us’ world view being spread by terrorist groups.
	Far Right – those groups or individuals who do not go so far as to espouse violence.    Electoral far right -  this would include those parties who have stood in elections such as the British National Party or National Front.
Northern Ireland Related Terrorism	Criminals – It would be preferable to refer to criminals or those opposed to peace, as these terms devalue their supposed cause.	Terrorists – although correct and acceptable to many in the community, it may be better to avoid using where possible, replacing with ‘Criminals’ instead.
	Dissident Republicans – this term is widely used for those groups who are violently opposed to the peace process. While not ideal language, especially within the wider Republican community, the term Dissident has become more associated with violent types in NI rather than its more common meaning.	Republicans - Regularly (but incorrectly) used to refer to parties/groups who countenance the use of violence to promote Irish unity. To be avoided except in the correct historical or current political context.
	Loyalist Paramilitary Groups – this term is widely used for those groups who violently oppose Irish Republicanism.	Loyalists - Acceptable when used accurately in the context of supporters of the PUP (Progressive Unionist Party), otherwise best avoided due to overtones of militancy.
Al-Qa’eda Inspired Violent Extremists	Al-Qa’eda Inspired Violent Extremists (AQIVE)   This phrase is considered to be the best way of describing the various terrorist groups and individuals who align to the Islamist ‘single narrative’.       Al-Qa’eda is a terrorist organisation whose leadership is based in Afghanistan.       ISIL/ISIS – refer to the terrorist organisation Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant, or Islamic State in Iraq and Sham (the Arabic word for Syria). The acronym for the Arabic name for the group is DAESH	Islamist extremist/terrorist – there is always a danger in using the word ‘Islamist’ as non-expert audiences are likely to hear ‘Islamic’ and all audiences will make a connection to the Muslim faith.  This phrase is best avoided.         The terms Jihad/jihadist can cause offence in Muslim communities when used in place of terrorism/terrorist. This is because Jihad simply means ‘struggle’ and within the context of Islam it can represent a range of challenges from the spiritual and physical challenge observed through Ramadan through to simply trying to be a better person. The word is most commonly used in the media as a reference to military jihad or a holy war.  This is problematic and can reinforce the propaganda of groups who attempt to portray their violent acts as having a religious justification.        Islamic State or IS – Avoid these names as it conveys a sense of legitimacy and statehood on the terrorist organisation ISIS.   The Caliphate.  Many Muslims would find it highly offensive to hear mentions to the Caliphate. This term is best avoided, instead referring to ‘territory controlled by ISIS’.

Perfect class project for your English learning Spanish pupils.

[Zico]

Quality bites from Och Aye McNoo. Take the weans in the waater furra bevvy big man natnaw. 

[Pans Jambo]

loadapish.

 

End.

[Governor Tarkin]

I'm with the OP on this one.

 

Call a spade a spade.

 

THE BAIRNS HAVE THE RIGHT TO KNOW!

[shaun.lawson]

4 hours ago, Eldar Hadzimehmedovic said:

Seems like a reasonable, inoffensive piece of guidance. Struggling to see how that would provoke such anger tbh. 

 

Disagree. I think much of the guidance is a load of nonsense. And I say that as someone who considers "British values" to involve the following:

 

"If you have money and property, you can do whatever you want. If you don't have money or property, watch the **** out". 

 

Gorgiewave is right on this, IMO. Though given the offence he takes when I write "Catalunya", I bet he wouldn't have a problem if the right wing Spanish authorities had a similar document.  

[ri Alban]

9 hours ago, Smithee said:

Why bother? He lights the touch paper with inflammatory terms he'd go mental about if aimed at the tories, then watches you dance.

If you're happy to be that puppet, crack on, but you're giving him exactly what he wants, every time. 

 

Advice noted, Cheers. But sometimes you just have to.

[Sydney]

I've been places and done things.......but I'm struggling, struggling to find anything in the guidance on problematic language to be offended by.

[Unknown user]

4 hours ago, ri Alban said:

Advice noted, Cheers. But sometimes you just have to.

And he knows that, but to each their own

[Mysterion]

16 hours ago, Gorgiewave said:

The cretinous, timorous, ignorant Scottish regional council has come out with the following document (it can be found on google by searching '"Problematic Language" Education Scotland').

 

There's a clear agenda on the go with your post whilst it wilfully ignores that this would have been published regardless of those voted into run Holyrood. 

 

You've disemboweled your own argument with an irrational anti SNP rant (and i say that as someone who has little confidence in the current government). 

 

 

[Unknown user]

23 minutes ago, Mysterion said:

 

There's a clear agenda on the go with your post whilst it wilfully ignores that this would have been published regardless of those voted into run Holyrood. 

 

You've disemboweled your own argument with an irrational anti SNP rant (and i say that as someone who has little confidence in the current government). 

 

 

One of the biggest trolls on here, knows exactly what he's doing. I reckon he's determined to make us all as miserable as him.

 

Best ignored, literally.

[Bridge of Djoum]

17 hours ago, Gorgiewave said:

Not dobber, *****, etc.

 

The cretinous, timorous, ignorant Scottish regional council has come out with the following document (it can be found on google by searching '

 

It's through the same crisis of confidence in Britain that the SNP rats, hallucinators and chancers have seeped through.

"Problematic Language" Education Scotland').

Prevent: Safeguarding vulnerable individuals

 

Language and terminology guidance

 

 

 

Purpose:

 

 

 

·         Education Scotland and the Scottish Government recognise the importance of using appropriate and accurate language when leading discussions with children and young people, and this is particularly important when exploring current global social and political issues. Doing so minimises the risk of any individual feeling targeted, offended, stigmatised and/or unfairly represented. 

 

·         This Language guidance provides an overview of some of the appropriate terminology which is used when discussing the themes, topics and groups who feature across the spectrum of violent extremism and terrorism both in Scotland and internationally.

 

·         You are encouraged to be reflective – think carefully before selecting the right words for your context and ask yourself what you really mean.

 

 

 

 

 

Discussion Topic	Safe Language	Problematic Language
General	Criminals – It may be preferable to refer to terrorists as criminals (and/or murderers) who seek to undermine the values that we all share. This devalues their supposed cause.	Extremists/Extremism – defined in the UK Government’s Prevent strategy since 2011 as ‘the vocal or active opposition to fundamental British values, including democracy, the rule of law, individual liberty and mutual respect and tolerance of different faiths and beliefs’.    This is problematic language because the concept of ‘British values’ can cause offence and could play into the hands of groups who seek to assert that there is an inherent conflict between being British and being Muslim.
	Violent Extremists – those who use violence to further their cause.  The good thing about this label is that it makes the violence the focus.	Radical and extreme are adjectives that should not be used to describe groups, activities or individuals in this context.
	Terrorism is defined in the 2000 Act as:  the use or threat of action designed to influence the government or to intimidate the public or a section of the public … for the purpose of advancing a political, religious or ideological cause.	‘War on terror’ and similar phrases which use imagery of battles should be avoided.  These play into the military and violent language and symbolism of the narratives used by terrorist groups.
Values	Shared Values - Curriculum for Excellence defines and supports learning about the values and attitudes that our children and young people need to become responsible citizens who respect other people, different beliefs and cultures. Young people learn how these are fundamental in both local and global communities.	British Values – this language is problematic because the concept of ‘British values’ can cause offence and could play into the hands of groups who seek to assert that there is an inherent conflict between being British and being Muslim.
Prevent	Safeguarding Vulnerable Individuals – a concerted effort has been made to position activity in Scotland to prevent radicalisation as an additional safeguarding issue. This underscores that Prevent operates in a pre-criminal space and has the wellbeing of the vulnerable individual as its primary concern.
Extreme Right Wing or Left Wing	Extreme Right Wing or Left Wing – those organisations or individuals who have rejected democratic means of achieving their aims and objectives (and therefore embraced violence).	Domestic Extremism – although this is the correct and widely used phrase to describe the threat from a range of groups including the Extreme Right Wing or Left Wing it is problematic because the use of ‘domestic’ to describe British nationals engaging in such activity suggests that British nationals involved in other causes are somehow foreign.  It therefore plays up difference and feeds the ‘them and us’ world view being spread by terrorist groups.
	Far Right – those groups or individuals who do not go so far as to espouse violence.    Electoral far right -  this would include those parties who have stood in elections such as the British National Party or National Front.
Northern Ireland Related Terrorism	Criminals – It would be preferable to refer to criminals or those opposed to peace, as these terms devalue their supposed cause.	Terrorists – although correct and acceptable to many in the community, it may be better to avoid using where possible, replacing with ‘Criminals’ instead.
	Dissident Republicans – this term is widely used for those groups who are violently opposed to the peace process. While not ideal language, especially within the wider Republican community, the term Dissident has become more associated with violent types in NI rather than its more common meaning.	Republicans - Regularly (but incorrectly) used to refer to parties/groups who countenance the use of violence to promote Irish unity. To be avoided except in the correct historical or current political context.
	Loyalist Paramilitary Groups – this term is widely used for those groups who violently oppose Irish Republicanism.	Loyalists - Acceptable when used accurately in the context of supporters of the PUP (Progressive Unionist Party), otherwise best avoided due to overtones of militancy.
Al-Qa’eda Inspired Violent Extremists	Al-Qa’eda Inspired Violent Extremists (AQIVE)   This phrase is considered to be the best way of describing the various terrorist groups and individuals who align to the Islamist ‘single narrative’.       Al-Qa’eda is a terrorist organisation whose leadership is based in Afghanistan.       ISIL/ISIS – refer to the terrorist organisation Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant, or Islamic State in Iraq and Sham (the Arabic word for Syria). The acronym for the Arabic name for the group is DAESH	Islamist extremist/terrorist – there is always a danger in using the word ‘Islamist’ as non-expert audiences are likely to hear ‘Islamic’ and all audiences will make a connection to the Muslim faith.  This phrase is best avoided.         The terms Jihad/jihadist can cause offence in Muslim communities when used in place of terrorism/terrorist. This is because Jihad simply means ‘struggle’ and within the context of Islam it can represent a range of challenges from the spiritual and physical challenge observed through Ramadan through to simply trying to be a better person. The word is most commonly used in the media as a reference to military jihad or a holy war.  This is problematic and can reinforce the propaganda of groups who attempt to portray their violent acts as having a religious justification.        Islamic State or IS – Avoid these names as it conveys a sense of legitimacy and statehood on the terrorist organisation ISIS.   The Caliphate.  Many Muslims would find it highly offensive to hear mentions to the Caliphate. This term is best avoided, instead referring to ‘territory controlled by ISIS’.

it can be found on google by searching '"Problematic Language" Education Scotland').

 

And you entered that into Google?

 

You know, there are naked chicks and such online, right??

[Ray Gin]

Excellent guidance there, I'll be sharing this with my colleagues. Thanks for posting.

[shaun.lawson]

11 minutes ago, New York Fleapit said:

You know, there are naked chicks and such online, right??

 

 

"Larissa Riquelme, Showmatch". You won't be disappointed.  

[Bridge of Djoum]

4 minutes ago, shaun.lawson said:

 

 

"Larissa Riquelme, Showmatch". You won't be disappointed.  

Hmmmm, I kinda was. 

 

Never been into Latin women really. 

 

More of an Asa Akira man myself. 

[shaun.lawson]

2 minutes ago, New York Fleapit said:

 

More of an Asa Akira man myself. 

 

 

Whenever I see Sarah Palin interviewed or giving a speech, I just think of Lisa Ann.  

[Bridge of Djoum]

5 minutes ago, shaun.lawson said:

 

 

Whenever I see Sarah Palin interviewed or giving a speech, I just think of Lisa Ann.  

 

Nailin' Palin. A modern classic.

 

What was this thread about?

[151]

17 hours ago, ri Alban said:

Away and take yer face for a shite. Tories taking away weans dinners down in Englandand this is what you have the nerve to moan about.

oh and do you think the EU should ignore Brexit and send cops over to throw people down stairs. I don't remember the EU allowing this vote.

 

 

[shaun.lawson]

8 minutes ago, New York Fleapit said:

 

Nailin' Palin. A modern classic.

 

What was this thread about?

 

Gorgiewave getting his arse felt, I think? 

[Bridge of Djoum]

1 minute ago, shaun.lawson said:

 

Gorgiewave getting his arse felt, I think? 

Ah, so we are kinda sticking to topic then.

[Taffin]

17 hours ago, Eldar Hadzimehmedovic said:

Seems like a reasonable, inoffensive piece of guidance. Struggling to see how that would provoke such anger tbh. 

 

This. Don't see the issue with it.

[luckydug]

17 hours ago, Eldar Hadzimehmedovic said:

Seems like a reasonable, inoffensive piece of guidance. Struggling to see how that would provoke such anger tbh. 

But you are not a right wing Scotland hating extremist who spends his time trolling people on the Internet. 

 

[ri Alban]

1 hour ago, New York Fleapit said:

Ah, so we are kinda sticking to topic then.

Quality!