SuperstarSteve Posted January 22, 2018 Sorry if a thread has already been started on this topic, It’s looking possible that Celtic and Rangers colt teams will be joining league 2 next season, what’s everyone’s thoughts? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mutley Posted January 22, 2018 Did the other clubs get offered this option? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scott herbertson Posted January 22, 2018 Just now, SuperstarSteve said: Sorry if a thread has already been started on this topic, It’s looking possible that Celtic and Rangers colt teams will be joining league 2 next season, what’s everyone’s thoughts? why would rangers colts team join and not ours Aberdeens or Hibs What logic is there for that choice? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smith's right boot Posted January 22, 2018 This will give them a huge advantage when attracting young players, we may still do the same. If we want to and we're not allowed we should be banging on Ann's door for answers. ****ing joke if these two clubs are the only ones allowed. Things like this make me hate Scottish football. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jambojamie91 Posted January 22, 2018 I think I’ve read some where that both hearts and Aberdeen have both said there academy sides aren’t ready but are thinking about it for the future Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigAlim Posted January 22, 2018 So are they making the league bigger or kicking out real teams? If the former I'd expect Hearts to be front of the queue Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperstarSteve Posted January 22, 2018 Only 2 clubs can be chosen as far as am aware. There are Requirements that need to be met for your club to be in the selection process. finances rule most clubs out... us, aberdeen and hibs turned down the opportunity because next season it too soon to for us to be involved with everything going on. Which leaves Celtic and Rangers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scott herbertson Posted January 22, 2018 cant believe to 'authorities' have agreed to this - rangers and celtic scooping up even more cash and also the local future support in the smaller towns Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperstarSteve Posted January 22, 2018 1 minute ago, BigAlim said: So are they making the league bigger or kicking out real teams? If the former I'd expect Hearts to be front of the queue League 2 is to become a 12 team league, neither colt team can be relegated or promoted. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
By the light Posted January 22, 2018 It’s a complete farce. They could easily finish 1st and 2nd in that league and not get promoted so the team finishing 3rd “wins” the league. Taking the piss out of some of the most loyal fans in the country. Joke. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iwasthere1954 Posted January 22, 2018 What about the Lowland League and Highland league winners that go through a play off system to gain admission to league two. Every Premier league team should be given the opportunity to join or create another league with the winner gaining access to the play off for league two. You just can't cherry pick two teams and say there you go. GFA at it again. They certainly do not represent the interests of league clubs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
i wish jj was my dad Posted January 22, 2018 Horrible idea. I don't want Hearts involved in this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigAlim Posted January 22, 2018 Just now, iwasthere1954 said: What about the Lowland League and Highland league winners that go through a play off system to gain admission to league two. Every Premier league team should be given the opportunity to join or create another league with the winner gaining access to the play off for league two. You just can't cherry pick two teams and say there you go. GFA at it again. They certainly do not represent the interests of league clubs. I know a couple of folk from Brora and Fraserburgh, they've always said to me they'd much rather not get into the spfl pyramid as they believe that they'd make less money Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nookie Bear Posted January 22, 2018 8 minutes ago, SuperstarSteve said: Only 2 clubs can be chosen as far as am aware. There are Requirements that need to be met for your club to be in the selection process. finances rule most clubs out... us, aberdeen and hibs turned down the opportunity because next season it too soon to for us to be involved with everything going on. Which leaves Celtic and Rangers. Not doubting you, and i may have missed something, but is this not something that everyone would have been made well aware of before now? Surely there would have been an announcement that clubs were being offered the opportunity to take part, and then i would expect to hear news that us, aberdeen and hibs all declined it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruyff Turn Posted January 22, 2018 Awful idea. Just a way for them to lobby for a way out of this league and leave a B team here so they still have a share in this league. The SFA is a complete and utter joke if they let this happen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nookie Bear Posted January 22, 2018 14 minutes ago, BigDave'sHeed said: This will give them a huge advantage when attracting young players, we may still do the same. If we want to and we're not allowed we should be banging on Ann's door for answers. ****ing joke if these two clubs are the only ones allowed. Things like this make me hate Scottish football. We attract young players by offering them first team football, rather than being kept out the side by some Bruno Alves. Totally agree with your points though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jambo66 Posted January 22, 2018 Quite how a club which appears to be trading while insolvent (but for soft loans from it's directors) can be allowed to have another team is beyond me. But then I remembered what they're called. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BM1874 Posted January 22, 2018 (edited) Terrible call. great chance to do something with the entire structure of the leagues, personally I would merge leagues one and two and promote the highland and Lowland League champions as well as the bottom 2 of championship to make a 24 team league. Take the other 8 championship teams and hey presto a top 20 league and a 24 team second tier wishful thinking but a change to really shake it up and breathe life into the league pyramid bit not at the expense of having a “certain” two teams colts in it. Sadly confirmation of ever needed that they run the SFA/Spfl if ever we needed it, when did either of their u20’s last win the league? Edited January 22, 2018 by BM1874 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
letsalldothebeattie Posted January 22, 2018 Why league 2 why not the bottom of the pyramid the Lowland League that would be better plus would be good for they teams to play against Colt sides as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperstarSteve Posted January 22, 2018 37 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said: Not doubting you, and i may have missed something, but is this not something that everyone would have been made well aware of before now? Surely there would have been an announcement that clubs were being offered the opportunity to take part, and then i would expect to hear news that us, aberdeen and hibs all declined it. https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/celtic-rangers-colt-teams-set-11886261 That’s all I’ve seen on the matter mate, also heard from a guy at work that 7 of the league 2 teams have already voted in favour of celtic taking part. No idea how much truth there is to that though Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonnothejambo Posted January 22, 2018 59 minutes ago, SuperstarSteve said: Sorry if a thread has already been started on this topic, It’s looking possible that Celtic and Rangers colt teams will be joining league 2 next season, what’s everyone’s thoughts? Celtic already have a Colts team... We dry boabied them yesterday. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hurdie Posted January 22, 2018 50 minutes ago, Cruyff Turn said: Awful idea. Just a way for them to lobby for a way out of this league and leave a B team here so they still have a share in this league. The SFA is a complete and utter joke if they let this happen. In a nutshell. The SFA/SPFL are readying themselves for the day the Bigots jump ship. The cross-border nature of the challenge cup is another. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
doctor jambo Posted January 22, 2018 If rangers do a re-run they could have two teams in league 2....................... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bauld Posted January 22, 2018 It's another way of saying the development league is a complete failure. But they can't bear to admit it and scrap the thing. Reserve league should never have been abandoned. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperstarSteve Posted January 22, 2018 22 minutes ago, jonnothejambo said: Celtic already have a Colts team... We dry boabied them yesterday. ?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GorgieMIlls Posted January 22, 2018 What happens next time Rangers are liquidated and re-join the bottom division as version 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robroy1874 Posted January 22, 2018 This doesn't seem right - only to the benefit of the Old Firm. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redjambo Posted January 22, 2018 "Any change would require the approval of 11 of the 12 Premiership clubs and 23 of the 30 (75 per cent) lower league clubs." Hopefully that won't be forthcoming. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
All Out Attack Posted January 22, 2018 We, along with Aberdeen and Hibs apparently weren't ready to do this. There were quite a lot of stipulations if I recall. Things like guaranting buying the equivalent of 250 tickets at away games etc. I think it worked out at something like £15K per away game. Costly but probably with it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
August Landmesser Posted January 22, 2018 1 hour ago, SuperstarSteve said: Sorry if a thread has already been started on this topic, It’s looking possible that Celtic and Rangers colt teams will be joining league 2 next season, what’s everyone’s thoughts? **** that. Ridiculous idea. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperstarSteve Posted January 22, 2018 8 minutes ago, August Landmesser said: **** that. Ridiculous idea. Pretty much my thoughts exactly mate, shame it looks likely to be in effect from next season. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Van Wilder Posted January 22, 2018 Makes a further mockery of what is already a monstrosity of a league structure. Every other club bar the arse cheeks should be saying no to this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperstarSteve Posted January 22, 2018 27 minutes ago, redjambo said: "Any change would require the approval of 11 of the 12 Premiership clubs and 23 of the 30 (75 per cent) lower league clubs." Hopefully that won't be forthcoming. Completely missed this. Just a little premature from celtic, by selecting Morton’s ground as their preffered home ground for the colt team. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stanley_ Posted January 22, 2018 Absolute nonsense. Jump ahead of all the non-league teams and go straight into League Two. How much benefit do the youngsters (and Scottish football as a whole) get from playing League Two football? No-one who supports lower league clubs is going to want to see their side playing against U20s. Can't see any reason at all for supporting this idea. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LarrysRightFoot Posted January 22, 2018 Personally I think it’s a really good idea. But the colt teams should be starting in the Highland and Lowland leagues as these are part of the league systems. Shoukd also be able to be promoted/relegated up to League 1 IMO Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
XB52 Posted January 22, 2018 40 minutes ago, Bauld said: It's another way of saying the development league is a complete failure. But they can't bear to admit it and scrap the thing. Reserve league should never have been abandoned. Pretty sure we are going back to reserve teams next season. At least sure I read that somewhere Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kiwidoug Posted January 22, 2018 Surely this should be debated and then voted on by all clubs. I would vote no. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Locky Posted January 22, 2018 1 hour ago, By the light said: It’s a complete farce. They could easily finish 1st and 2nd in that league and not get promoted so the team finishing 3rd “wins” the league. Taking the piss out of some of the most loyal fans in the country. Joke. On the flip side, they could finish in the bottom 2 positions meaning 3rd bottom has to fight for survival. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OTT Posted January 22, 2018 Lol. OF getting what they want by hook or crook still it seems. Every club that wants a colt team should start at the same time otherwise you're letting the OF getting a jump on everybody. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Locky Posted January 22, 2018 1 hour ago, BigAlim said: I know a couple of folk from Brora and Fraserburgh, they've always said to me they'd much rather not get into the spfl pyramid as they believe that they'd make less money Brora have spent big bucks (for highland league standards) for a few years. Thought that was just a normal ‘rise up the leagues’ job but apparently it’s more for a run in the Scottish Cup. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daveandal Posted January 22, 2018 I know some Elgin fans and they hate the U20s in the Challenge cup. Can't imagine they will be happy with this. Could see buycots when Celtic and both (well they both be there soon) of the Rangers come to town. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spellczech Posted January 22, 2018 (edited) Our kids go straight into the First Team at 16 so what's the need? Haha Far cheaper to loan them out to lower league clubs than have to field a whole Colts team. I doubt Rangers can afford this but since Celtic are doing it... This is more of a problem for the likes of Aberdeen and Hamilton who loan players from the OF... Edited January 22, 2018 by Spellczech Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
John Findlay Posted January 22, 2018 If this goes to a vote as suggested above then I sincerely hope the voting is in favour of against this nonsense. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redjambo Posted January 22, 2018 21 minutes ago, John Findlay said: If this goes to a vote as suggested above then I sincerely hope the voting is in favour of against this nonsense. What's the number of the Plain English Campaign? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
John Findlay Posted January 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, redjambo said: What's the number of the Plain English Campaign? You are not getting my phone number. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redjambo Posted January 22, 2018 Just now, John Findlay said: You are not getting my phone number. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MacDonald Jardine Posted January 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Locky said: On the flip side, they could finish in the bottom 2 positions meaning 3rd bottom has to fight for survival. That's probably more likely given the Colts team's performance in the Challenge Cup or whatever they're calling it this week. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RobNox Posted January 22, 2018 FFS, Rangers can barely afford a first team, let alone a Colts team. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mikey1874 Posted January 11, 2019 The latest I saw about this is the clubs including Championship aren't happy. Because the proposal is promotion is going to be allowed up to the Championship. Might put it into the long grass. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toggie88 Posted January 11, 2019 I'd much rather see the formalisation of feeder club agreements, i.e. formal agreements/affiliations between the bigger clubs and lower division clubs - like Major League and Minor League baseball clubs have in the states - that way existing smaller clubs get the benefit also. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
