i8hibsh Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 http://www.espnfc.co.uk/scottish-premiership/45/statistics/fairplay?season=2017 In fairness and in all seriousness I actually don't think we have been particularly dirty this season but these stats don't lie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homme Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Standard for us for the past 12 or 13 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Another fine in the post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musemic Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Celtic only 12 yellows and no reds...surprise, surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted November 20, 2017 Author Share Posted November 20, 2017 1 minute ago, Homme said: Standard for us for the past 12 or 13 years. It peaked under Neilson when we seemed to get a player sent off every 3 games. But yeah, we are becoming a very dirty team. What gets me is these stats would show that we are a team that ‘gets stuck in’ but this could not be further from the truth. We are just a team of huddies with no intelligence. It’s all starting to really get to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted November 20, 2017 Author Share Posted November 20, 2017 1 minute ago, Musemic said: Celtic only 12 yellows and no reds...surprise, surprise. The team that wins 4 nil most weeks is less likely to foul to be fair. Just more disciplined with a better manager. Hibs clearly in that bit too (minus the winning 4 nil part). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc_liam06 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 1 minute ago, i8hibsh said: The team that wins 4 nil most weeks is less likely to foul to be fair. Just more disciplined with a better manager. Hibs clearly in that bit too (minus the winning 4 nil part). Yep, if you have the ball for 70-80% of the game, you're not likely to commit too many fouls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTH Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 I was under the impression "Super" John McGinn was some kind of messiah. Yet according to the individual stats on that link he is just a very naughty boy - with the joint highest amount of cautions in the league at 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted November 20, 2017 Author Share Posted November 20, 2017 3 minutes ago, FTH said: I was under the impression "Super" John McGinn was some kind of messiah. Yet according to the individual stats on that link he is just a very naughty boy - with the joint highest amount of cautions in the league at 6. He gets booked a lot just for looking inbred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsalldothebeattie Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 That’s cause we’re a big physical team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted November 20, 2017 Author Share Posted November 20, 2017 3 minutes ago, letsalldothebeattie said: That’s cause we’re a big physical team Phyiscal would suggest we 'get stuck in' though. I don't see that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc1995 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 We foul far to often, most in the league by 7, averaging 15 a game. I've been to most games this season and there hasn't been that many heavy challenges that I can remember. Loads of petty fouls, but all adds up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted November 20, 2017 Author Share Posted November 20, 2017 1 minute ago, hmfc1995 said: We foul far to often, most in the league by 7, averaging 15 a game. I've been to most games this season and there hasn't been that many heavy challenges that I can remember. Loads of petty fouls, but all adds up Petty fouls really are a sign of a lack of dicipline and intelligence. Nothing we never already knew then I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc1995 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Just now, i8hibsh said: Petty fouls really are a sign of a lack of dicipline and intelligence. Nothing we never already knew then I guess. I'd agree they don't do anything for us, gives teams a chances to put the ball into the box or clear their lines. It can be very frustrating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socrates82 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 58 minutes ago, i8hibsh said: The team that wins 4 nil most weeks is less likely to foul to be fair. Just more disciplined with a better manager. Hibs clearly in that bit too (minus the winning 4 nil part). You'd think so but as we all know Celtic get to foul a lot more before getting bookings. They had similar foul counts against SJ and Ross County recently for example despite having all the ball. I couldn't be bothered looking at more games but as we see every time they play in Europe Celtic are not an especially sophisticated footballing team and they commit their fair share of fouls but just don't get their fair share of bookings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romulus Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 What do you expect when Scott brown is allowed to kick players in the face? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsalldothebeattie Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 28 minutes ago, i8hibsh said: Phyiscal would suggest we 'get stuck in' though. I don't see that. We have at times this season. Maybe not proper dirty tackles (Cochrane on McGinn aside) we’ve given away stupid fouls that we shouldn’t during games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadKiller Dog Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Important stats missing from the table is total fouls committed and reasons. And a question is will it even out after we have a run of home games as I guess don't know the details but yellow cards are more common for an away side than a home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EH11 2NL Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 It really is amazing that a team who's captain runs around booting players in the head only has 12 yellows and 0 reds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Call me bias if you like but having seen 90% of Hearts games this season I would argue strongly that Hearts players get booked for allegedly committing fouls that other teams get no foul against them or they do get a foul against but no booking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 We will be paying for the SFA’s Christmas party again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 40 minutes ago, John Findlay said: Call me bias if you like but having seen 90% of Hearts games this season I would argue strongly that Hearts players get booked for allegedly committing fouls that other teams get no foul against them or they do get a foul against but no booking. That has always been the case over the past few years. We are not a dirty team we're not even naive when tackling. I could guess we attract the officials because they don't like us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmaroon Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 4 hours ago, i8hibsh said: The team that wins 4 nil most weeks is less likely to foul to be fair. Just more disciplined with a better manager. Hibs clearly in that bit too (minus the winning 4 nil part). What a surprising attitude from you. Unlike you to have yet another pop at Hearts, while acting as apologist for Celtic and Hibs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 1 hour ago, John Findlay said: Call me bias if you like but having seen 90% of Hearts games this season I would argue strongly that Hearts players get booked for allegedly committing fouls that other teams get no foul against them or they do get a foul against but no booking. I agree. Some, however, based on the rules are bookings. That annoys me, as we know this. What annoys me more though, is that other clubs, particularly Celtic, get off with time same offences. That is why I was so impressed with our discipline in that semi with Celtic in 2012. The players on yellow cards were perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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