Bazzas right boot Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Why would you man mark their worst ball playing midfielder? He doesn't create anything he breaks up play. Watch the replay of the goal last year. We've made him look like pirlo. I would ask goncalves or Johnson to drop on him when not in possession, man marking with kitchen I'd a bit much. He strolled about Tynecastle like he owned the place, he is shite but we need to do something, not to do something different would be a bit daft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Tactics: Win the physical fight first and foremost. In a thread full of so many differing opinions - I think this is probably the one thing I'd imagine we are all 100% agreed on. Bit of fire in their bellies and go out there and bully them first and foremost. We will need to actually break them down a bit before we earn the right to think about playing any decent football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Why would you man mark their worst ball playing midfielder? He doesn't create anything he breaks up play. We need someone to give him something to think about, rather than giving him the freedom of the pitch like he's used to, he must love playing against us so far, even though he's mince. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siegementality Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Not much Martin love on here guys. Do people already not rate this guy? From what I have seen he is not half the player he thinks he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
queensferryjambo Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 HamiltonStrunaHughesAvionitisSowah KitchenDjoumCowieWalkerGoncalves Johnsen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabienleclerq Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 We need someone to give him something to think about, rather than giving him the freedom of the pitch like he's used to, he must love playing against us so far, even though he's mince. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I think your giving him too much credit, he offers zero on the ball and he's there to stop us playing. I think our problem is we don't have a player now Paterson is out that will go and burst someone when rehired and they've got a couple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 If Johnsen is out then I'd go 4-2-3-1 Usual defence Kitchen and Tziolis the 2 Cowie Djoum Walker the 3 Goncalves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 I think your giving him too much credit, he offers zero on the ball and he's there to stop us playing. I think our problem is we don't have a player now Paterson is out that will go and burst someone when rehired and they've got a couple. I think if we just stop giving him so much time on the ball and close him/them down as quickly as they closed us down in the first game (pretty much what we done against Rangers), then we should be fine. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 From what I have seen he is not half the player he thinks he is. How good does he think he is? Once we know that then we can all judge if he is half as good, and then give him stick if we don't agree with how good he thinks he is, and Ultimately, if he is half as good as he thinks he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Reekin' Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 How good does he think he is? Once we know that then we can all judge if he is half as good, and then give him stick if we don't agree with how good he thinks he is, and Ultimately, if he is half as good as he thinks he is. Yup: if he's half the player he thinks he is, then he'll be twice the player many on here think he is. I think. Or something. Either way, boo-boys gonna boo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Yup: if he's half the player he thinks he is, then he'll be twice the player many on here think he is. I think. Or something. Either way, boo-boys gonna boo Yip, I'm confused now. Even if he is not half as good as he thinks he is, he won't be half as bad as some say. Depends on if you a glass half empty/ half full type of chap as well, ooft. Hopefully the stat / scouting companies have a better system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bighenry Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Hamilton Hughes. Avlontis Novak Struna Sowah Djoum Tziolis kitchen Walker Isma Win the battle and stop hibs full backs. Centre halfs should take care of fatty holt and Cummings and help with balls into the box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenfrewHearts Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Martin gets it tight because there was a youtube video of him banging in all sorts of goals, he's a decent player who isn't fully up to speed. He'll be fine though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbo1874 Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Is Johnsen out for this then or is it people guessing? Hopefully not as I'd want him in from the start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lincon Premier Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Don't get that so many are going with ONE up front. Get an early goal ( or better still two ) and they will collapse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigC Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Is Johnsen out for this then or is it people guessing? Hopefully not as I'd want him in from the startHe said on Twitter that he'd tweaked his hamstring. Hamstring injuries are usually a minimum of 2-3 weeks even if it's a very minor tear, for the simple reason that they get worse if they are not fully healed and you try and play. So unless it was just cramp, or he was wrong about his injury in some other way, it will be a surprise if he plays any part in the game. He said he was OK to play, which is why I have included him in my ideal 11, but the more I think about it, he less confident I am. I don't have any inside info. I've just never seen a player play 4 days after a hamstring tweak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richiehmfc Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Hamilton Struna Hughes AvolontisSowah TzoilisKitchen Walker DjoumGoncalvesJohnson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tynie-Tempah Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 personally i like the 4.4.2 formations that are above, some people are thinking about it far too much with weird formations the team hasn't played, ironically the same as Cathro done in first game (IMHO). Just keep it simple, stop overthinking it like this is some upper class team were about to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy T Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Hamilton Struna Hughes Avolontis Sowah Tzoilis Kitchen Walker Djoum Goncalves Johnson This team for me. We have to play two up top. Their centre halves are good in the air but not the most mobile. Give them two forwards to worry about and they won't like it. Plus Djoum breaking from midfield will give them a problem. Kitchen has to go toe to toe with Bartley take him out the game and give Djoum the room to play. Walker can switch wings throughout the game so they find it more difficult to constantly double up on him. Movement and pace is what we need and no shortage of controlled aggression. Hibs think they've won the physical battle so the likes of kitchen need to assert themselves early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabienleclerq Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 I think if we just stop giving him so much time on the ball and close him/them down as quickly as they closed us down in the first game (pretty much what we done against Rangers), then we should be fine. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk I think that was the plan but because Rangers kept trying to play it out it worked, Hibs on the other hand went long instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudiboy Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Hamilton Struna Tasos Hughes Sowah Kitchen Tziolis Nicholson Djoum Walker Goncalves Nicholson and Walker to push their full backs right back, but think Cathro will play Cowie instead of Nicholson. Think Currie and Chauley are good options from the bench. Have a wee feeling Currie could score coming off bench with Johnsen unlikely to make it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudiboy Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 I think that was the plan but because Rangers kept trying to play it out it worked, Hibs on the other hand went long instead. This is exactly what happened so we must be prepared to battle for second balls this time round unlike at Tynie. Thought we got bullied, which should never happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbo1874 Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 He said on Twitter that he'd tweaked his hamstring. Hamstring injuries are usually a minimum of 2-3 weeks even if it's a very minor tear, for the simple reason that they get worse if they are not fully healed and you try and play. So unless it was just cramp, or he was wrong about his injury in some other way, it will be a surprise if he plays any part in the game. He said he was OK to play, which is why I have included him in my ideal 11, but the more I think about it, he less confident I am. I don't have any inside info. I've just never seen a player play 4 days after a hamstring tweak. Cheers for that. Hopefully he's OK. I'm still undecided on the best team.Well mostly the midfield.Wanted BJ to start though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Had a dream last night that Tziolis scored a header from a corner. In fact in the dream when the corner was about to be taken he handed his cigar to Kitchen , scored then got his cigar back from Kitchen. lol; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussAsia Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Hamilton Normal back 4 Tziolis Kitchen Johnson Djoum Walker Goncalves Have Novak, Cowie and Nicholson on the bench. I'd also have Choulay on the bench but only bring him on if we were really struggling.. I honestly don't see what Choulay brings to the team.. He cost us 2 goals against Celtic by not having the awareness to cover his man Tierney.. His assist at Motherwell you would expect almost every professional player to make, he was in acres of space and it was a simple through ball.. He's fast but has no heart for a battle, not what you need in a derby. Finally he doesn't seem to have any skill to beat a player and in fact loses the ball often giving the opposition the chance to break away and create chances.. The only role he can play is to use his pace if we are really up against it and needing goals then looking for him over the top of the full back.. Hopefully we won't be in that position.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayjay Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Hamilton (Against my better judgement but for continuity in the back 5) Struna Hughes Avlonitis Sowah Tziolis Choulay Cowie Djoum Walker Isma In a 4-1-3-1-1 formation. Give Jamie a Free role just behind isma to go and influence the game. Width provided bubble Djoum and Choulay with Cowie in the engine room and Tziolis in front of the back 4. Get walker Playing between the lines and get him on the ball and he's the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amadjambo Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Hamilton Struna Hughes Avlonitis Sowah Nowak Kitchen Tziolis Djoum. Walker Goncalves Christ, I hope that's not the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhoenixHearts Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Hamilton Struna Avlonitis Hughes Sowah Tziolis Cowie Djoum Walker Johnsen Goncalves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 I know ill get slated for this but wednesday would off suited a conor sammon not for his quality but for his persistance work rate and to play the psysical game with bartley and there 2 centrebacks allowing djoum walker and isma more room instead of being fouled and bullied Sammon? Consider yourself slated, my friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraz the postie Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Hamilton Struna. Hughes. Novak. Sowha. Djoum. Kitchin. Cowie. Walker. Goncalves Johnson . Attack,attack ,attack,early crosses,long balls,shots from distance, Constant pressing,fast flowing,slick passing football . That's cause I'm a postie and not a coach ( of great amounts). Fire n ice ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabienleclerq Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 This is exactly what happened so we must be prepared to battle for second balls this time round unlike at Tynie. Thought we got bullied, which should never happen. Ive a feeling we might go three at the back to combat it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboJen Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 If it's true that Cowie's not trained all week then the team pretty much polls itself imo. Hamilton Struna Hughes Avlonitis Sowah Kitchen Tziolis Djoum Johnsen Isma Walker Kitchen and Johnsen were obvious misses last Sunday and should be starting. Djoum should definitely be back in. I like Nowak because he seems much more comfortable on the ball than Avlonitis but I wouldn't go changing a settled back 5. Hibs' only out ball on the first game was the penguin on the half way line. Cut that off and they have nothing. Johnsen, Isma, Djoum and Walker will all run at their defence but pose them different problems in the way they play - Nicholson and Walker were too similar last week. I think if Kitchen had played last week Hibs wild rarely have got out of their half. We should have noting to fear. Let's shut their day trippers up and watch the green seats emerge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboJen Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 If Johnsen is out then I'd go 4-2-3-1 Usual defence Kitchen and Tziolis the 2 Cowie Djoum Walker the 3 Goncalves. Agree. If Cowie's out as well I think I'd start Walker and Choulay either side of Isma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDSK Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Hamilton Struna Avolintis Hughes Sowah Kitchen Tzolis Djoum Goncalves Walker Johnsen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1874robbo Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Hamilton Struna Tasos Hughes Sowah Kitchen Tziolis Nicholson Djoum Walker Goncalves Nicholson and Walker to push their full backs right back, but think Cathro will play Cowie instead of Nicholson. Think Currie and Chauley are good options from the bench. Have a wee feeling Currie could score coming off bench with Johnsen unlikely to make it. Put Martin in instead of Sam and you have your team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboFanTv Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Hamilton Struna Sowah Avlonitis Hughes Nowak Tziolis Cowie Walker Djoum Goncalves 4-5-1 Fast pace is needed and we need to be ready for a fight in midfield. Protect the keeper and take our chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernie Eskilsson Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Hamilton Nowak Avlonitis Hughes Choulay Djoum Tziolis Kitchen Sowah Walker Goncalves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waynefozzie Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Put Martin in instead of Sam and you have your team. Aye, that's how I see it. Usual back five. Kitchen and Tziolis in the engine room. Then Walker, Djoum, and Martin. With Goncalves up front. I like that team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Hope the boys have been practicing their penalties. I think there will be one during the game. I can also see it being decided by pens. Full time 1-1 Hearts to win 5-3 on pens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Australis Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Lets just not be 2nd to every 50-50 ball again. The wee team were more up for it in the first game, get it sorted Hearts. Dont think this is a game for Martin either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAndy Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Kitchen has to start tonight. We were soft in midfield in first game and we need his battling qualities particularly early doors. Undecided about the line up but I don't want Nicholson to start. I would rather he came on 2nd half when he can make a big impact. I have a feeling this game will be won from the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armageddon Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Tziolis needs to leave the cigar in it's box tonight and control this without playing the stroller role IMO. I think Cowie will be a big miss (people forget he was the main reason we pumped The SevCo) Kitchen needs to get the finger out and actually press the shit out of the midfield and force mistakes. Strikers need to play closer to the midfield so its not left to a 30 yard pass every time - work forward as a unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonhertz Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 hamilton strauna avlontis hughes sowah nowak cowie djoum walker goncalves chouley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac80 Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 hamilton strauna avlontis hughes sowah nowak cowie djoum walker goncalves chouley tziolis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac80 Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 got a feeling choulay will start wouldnt be surprised if he went with something like this hamilton struna hughes tasos sowah tziolis walker kitch djoum choulay isma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1874robbo Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 got a feeling choulay will start wouldnt be surprised if he went with something like this hamilton struna hughes tasos sowah tziolis walker kitch djoum choulay isma Choulay won't start imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howdy Doody Jambo Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Kitchen has to start tonight. We were soft in midfield in first game and we need his battling qualities particularly early doors. Undecided about the line up but I don't want Nicholson to start. I would rather he came on 2nd half when he can make a big impact. I have a feeling this game will be won from the bench. If Kitchen sits deep and doesn't play higher pressing it will invite trouble, he needs to play like he did against, Rangers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walrus Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 White shorts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac80 Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 If Kitchen sits deep and doesn't play higher pressing it will invite trouble, he needs to play like he did against, Rangers This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac80 Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 White shorts Hope so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.