JamboJohn1874 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Chick Young in radio just now suggesting the Led advertising boards that were destroyed during the pitch invasion by Hibs supporters were worth ?600,000. That is excluding the pitch, turf and thefts from camera men etc. The book has to be thrown at Hibs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael_Jackson Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 He's hardly an expert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts007 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 JamboJohn1874, on 23 May 2016 - 6:45 PM, said: Chick Young in radio just now suggesting the Led advertising boards that were destroyed during the pitch invasion by Hibs supporters were worth ?600,000. That is excluding the pitch, turf and thefts from camera men etc. The book has to be thrown at Hibs. He probably read that on here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanmillar Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Chick Young in radio just now suggesting the Led advertising boards that were destroyed during the pitch invasion by Hibs supporters were worth ?600,000. That is excluding the pitch, turf and thefts from camera men etc. The book has to be thrown at Hibs. I believe he's not far of the mark with that price Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Burgundy Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 That would be fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Lovely, this gets better and better. Looking forward to how this pans out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Burgundy Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Hopefully they can only be bought in pairs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf's Mate Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Think Chicks been reading JKB! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlimOzturk Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 If this is true and they have to pay that back along with a fine they could be royally screwed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 They will raise that in no time from all the extra season tickets they will sell on the back of their historic victory in the cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie2004 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 I believe he's not far of the mark with that price ?600,000 quoted in todays Scottish Sun as well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tott Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 This was reported in the press today. So hardly an exclusive from chick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 This is going to be fun. The fine could easily wipe out any money earned from the final,funds that are vital to that lot's survival. Only Hibs could Hibs a cup final win and end up putting their club through the shitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millano77 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 They will raise that in no time from all the extra season tickets they will sell on the back of their historic victory in the cup. Not if they are to ban all the pitch invaders they won't lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts007 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Jambof3tornado, on 23 May 2016 - 7:01 PM, said:They will raise that in no time from all the extra season tickets they will sell on the back of their historic victory in the cup. I believe they are running a poll on Hobo.net to see how many will chip in to cover any fines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivanhoe Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 If Chick Young told me it was raining I would look out the window before I reached for my coat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambogemz Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 I believe they are running a poll on Hobo.net to see how many will chip in to cover any fines They'll need a few bake sales for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts007 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 jambogemz, on 23 May 2016 - 7:13 PM, said:They'll need a few bake sales for that. yep hardly any fans at games and yet they think they can cover fines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUTOL Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 As I said when this was mentioned earlier today on another thread, I'm surprised the company that own the advertising screens don't have some sort of insurance policy to cover their property. That said, even if they do Hibs should be ensuring they aren't out of pocket in any way, e.g excess on policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 As I said when this was mentioned earlier today on another thread, I'm surprised the company that own the advertising screens don't have some sort of insurance policy to cover their property. That said, even if they do Hibs should be ensuring they aren't out of pocket in any way, e.g excess on policy. I'm sure they do but there will no doubt be a provision that where the cause of the claim is clear and can be claimed back they are obliged to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahgrassyshoes Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 If Chick Young told me it was raining I would look out the window before I reached for my coat. More the fool you, I'd just grab my sunglasses instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahgrassyshoes Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 I believe they are running a poll on Hobo.net to see how many will chip in to cover any fines Hope it's more successful than their whip round to buy their club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duckandcover Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 This is probably the only time I've been happy with the mass hysteria from all the Weegie press. Have a feeling the SFA will throw the book at Hibs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasman Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 As I said when this was mentioned earlier today on another thread, I'm surprised the company that own the advertising screens don't have some sort of insurance policy to cover their property. That said, even if they do Hibs should be ensuring they aren't out of pocket in any way, e.g excess on policy. I think I'm right in saying that the company is owned and run by a Hearts fan.... ....and while I'm sure they will be insured, and will claim on their insurance - my guess is that the insurance company would be looking to get their money back by taking action against those it feels are responsible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pants Shaton Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Hope it's more successful than their whip round to buy their club Tregs. Maybe Fish can do a gig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzbomb Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 I think I'm right in saying that the company is owned and run by a Hearts fan.... ....and while I'm sure they will be insured, and will claim on their insurance - my guess is that the insurance company would be looking to get their money back by taking action against those it feels are responsible. Suppose it depends if they're even covered for malicious or even criminal damage etc maybe only accidental cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyBatistuta Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 As I said when this was mentioned earlier today on another thread, I'm surprised the company that own the advertising screens don't have some sort of insurance policy to cover their property. That said, even if they do Hibs should be ensuring they aren't out of pocket in any way, e.g excess on policy. Criminal damage and the criminals should be made to pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 I would imagine the prize money would be an easy target to withdraw. Damage done should be paid for on the whole and that should be the starting point. Then you look at any other penalties if required First things first though a full investigation is required Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUTOL Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Suppose it depends if they're even covered for malicious or even criminal damage etc maybe only accidental cover. Over-enthusiastic euphoria, surely, not malicious or criminal on purpose! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabienleclerq Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 If this was at Tynecastle would we not be in trouble and not hibs? So is it not the sfa who were in charge at Hampden? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back to 2005 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Hibs fans were always very keen that we should honour our debts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts007 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Back to 2005, on 23 May 2016 - 8:25 PM, said:Hibs fans were always very keen that we should honour our debts... but not their own...BOS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUTOL Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 If this was at Tynecastle would we not be in trouble and not hibs? So is it not the sfa who were in charge at Hampden? The Rules. 28. Disorderly Conduct The clubs are responsible for the behaviour of their players, officials, members, supporters and any person carrying out a function at a match on their behalf. In the event of damage being sustained to a stadium where a tie in the Competition is played as a consequence of misbehaviour by a player, official, member, supporters, or any other person acting on behalf of or associated with a club, then that club shall be responsible for any costs arising in the reparation of same. The Scottish FA shall have the power to request such reports as may be necessary in determining responsibility for restitution and may additionally through the Judicial Panel impose upon any club a censure, fine, ejection from the Competition or suspension if, in the opinion of the Judicial Panel, a stadium is the subject of damage by that club?s representatives or those associated with it (Rule 6 refers). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabienleclerq Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 The Rules. 28. Disorderly Conduct The clubs are responsible for the behaviour of their players, officials, members, supporters and any person carrying out a function at a match on their behalf. In the event of damage being sustained to a stadium where a tie in the Competition is played as a consequence of misbehaviour by a player, official, member, supporters, or any other person acting on behalf of or associated with a club, then that club shall be responsible for any costs arising in the reparation of same. The Scottish FA shall have the power to request such reports as may be necessary in determining responsibility for restitution and may additionally through the Judicial Panel impose upon any club a censure, fine, ejection from the Competition or suspension if, in the opinion of the Judicial Panel, a stadium is the subject of damage by that club?s representatives or those associated with it (Rule 6 refers). Good stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cameron79 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 The Rules. 28. Disorderly Conduct The clubs are responsible for the behaviour of their players, officials, members, supporters and any person carrying out a function at a match on their behalf. In the event of damage being sustained to a stadium where a tie in the Competition is played as a consequence of misbehaviour by a player, official, member, supporters, or any other person acting on behalf of or associated with a club, then that club shall be responsible for any costs arising in the reparation of same. The Scottish FA shall have the power to request such reports as may be necessary in determining responsibility for restitution and may additionally through the Judicial Panel impose upon any club a censure, fine, ejection from the Competition or suspension if, in the opinion of the Judicial Panel, a stadium is the subject of damage by that club?s representatives or those associated with it (Rule 6 refers). I didn't have any dessert tonight but those rules will suffice. Delicious reading! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo dans les Pyrenees Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 I didn't have any dessert tonight but those rules will suffice. Delicious reading! Very sweet indeed. Someone better tell Ann that ?40k for some extra polis looks like a bargain! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 And Jackie Chan is calling out copyrights on some of the attempts at martial arts from Vermin mups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Competition Rules 12. Semi-Final and Final Ties 12.1 The Semi-Final and Final Ties shall be under the direct control of the Board who shall make all of the arrangements therefor. 12.2 Without prejudice to the foregoing generality, each of the clubs participating in the Semi-Final and/or the Final Ties, respectively, shall be liable for any damage caused to the stadium at which such a Tie is played (?the Stadium?) by that club?s supporters, acting with malicious intent or recklessly. 12.3 All costs and expenses incurred by the venue operator at whose ground the relevant Semi-Final or Final Tie is being played in repairing the damage caused to the Stadium or otherwise to reinstate the Stadium shall be deducted from the financial proceeds of the Competition normally payable to the participating club referred to in Rule 12.2 by the Scottish FA and paid to the venue operator at whose ground the relevant Semi-Final or Final Tie is being played. 12.4 Any dispute as to whether the damage referred to above was caused by that club?s supporters, acting with malicious intent or recklessly, shall be determined by the Scottish FA, who shall act as an expert and not as an arbitrator, whose decision shall be final and binding on the club and whose costs and expenses in reaching such determination shall be met from that club?s share in the financial proceeds of the Competition as aforesaid. 12.5 The costs of repair or reinstatement will be determined by an independent contractor, who shall act as an expert and not as an arbitrator, whose decision shall be final and binding on the club and whose costs and expenses shall be met from that club?s share in the financial proceeds of the Competition as aforesaid. 12.6 Each club authorises, instructs and mandates the Scottish FA to pay the costs of any damage or repair, so determined, to the venue operator at whose ground the relevant Semi-Final or Final Tie is being played, together with any costs payable under Rules 12.4 and 12.5 out of that club?s share in the financial proceeds of the Competition as aforesaid. 12.7 In the event that the club?s share in the financial proceeds of the Competition as aforesaid is less than the aggregate amount of the costs referred to in Rule 12.3 to Rule 12.5 (both inclusive), the club undertakes to indemnify the Scottish FA against, and to pay within 7 days of a written demand, an amount equal to the amount by which such aggregate amount exceeds the club?s share in the financial proceeds of the Competition as aforesaid. 12.8 The aggregate amount of any sums paid to the Scottish FA under this Rule 12 shall not exceed the sum of FIFTY THOUSAND POUNDS (?50,000) Sterling exclusive of VAT (or such other sum as is specified in the Rules from time to time). I'm not sure how the ?50,000 fits into the equation i.e. whether it is in addition to other costs or a limit on costs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott herbertson Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 The Rules. 28. Disorderly Conduct The clubs are responsible for the behaviour of their players, officials, members, supporters and any person carrying out a function at a match on their behalf. In the event of damage being sustained to a stadium where a tie in the Competition is played as a consequence of misbehaviour by a player, official, member, supporters, or any other person acting on behalf of or associated with a club, then that club shall be responsible for any costs arising in the reparation of same. The Scottish FA shall have the power to request such reports as may be necessary in determining responsibility for restitution and may additionally through the Judicial Panel impose upon any club a censure, fine, ejection from the Competition or suspension if, in the opinion of the Judicial Panel, a stadium is the subject of damage by that club?s representatives or those associated with it (Rule 6 refers). They're screwed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxteth O'Grady Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Competition Rules12.8 is as clear as mud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andydog Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 So, its a ?50k fine plus they pay for the damage and it's deducted from prize money. So, no prize money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMFC 86 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Hope it's more successful than their whip round to buy their club Bye h1b5! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haken Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Competition Rules I'm not sure how the ?50,000 fits into the equation i.e. whether it is in addition to other costs or a limit on costs. The way I read it is that the SFA will deduct costs from the money that the responsible club is due to receive from the competition. In the event that the costs exceed the money due, the SFA can demand the difference from the club, up to a maximum of ?50k. 12.8 looks fairly standard and says that the ?50k can be changed from time to time. In other words you can alter 12.8 without having to open up the rest of rule 12 for further debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radio Ga Ga Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 The way I read it is that the SFA will deduct costs from the money that the responsible club is due to receive from the competition. In the event that the costs exceed the money due, the SFA can demand the difference from the club, up to a maximum of ?50k. 12.8 looks fairly standard and says that the ?50k can be changed from time to time. In other words you can alter 12.8 without having to open up the rest of rule 12 for further debate. That's exactly how I read it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radio Ga Ga Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 So, its a ?50k fine plus they pay for the damage and it's deducted from prize money. So, no prize money. Think it is two fold, pay for the damage in full PLUS a fine and any sanctions that the SFA impose, I think their fine will be a lot further north than ?50k IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 The SFA will be under severe pressure from the irate Buns to hammer Hibs. The SFA will already be reluctant to impose serious, non-financial penalties on Hibs because it is most certainly open to question as to what Hibs as a club could have done to prevent the actions of the tramps. As an example, to withdraw Hibs qualification to the Europa League or to suspend them from the 2017 Scottish Cup would probably result in a legal challenge. To that end, going superfly TNT, the guns of the ****ing Navarone on their ass with the damages and fines seems like the ideal 'get out' for the SFA. They'll probably be hoping the financial cost of all the damage rises higher and higher. Hibs are set to lose a baw busting amount of cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marquis Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 I wouldn't bet on there being a fine that's anywhere near ?600k. We'll be lucky if it exceeds ?100k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j.jonah.jamieboy Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 600k cant see it myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radio Ga Ga Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 I wouldn't bet on there being a fine that's anywhere near ?600k. We'll be lucky if it exceeds ?100k. Are you not getting mixed up with the bill for the damage, plus the fine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 It would be truly hilarious if finally winning the Scottish Cup put them into administration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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