Jambo 4 Ever Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 (edited) Has anyone here ever been to a faith healing session or experienced it first hand? My cousin claims to have had their knee and back pain 'healed' a few weeks ago from a faith healer/prophet at their church and has asked if I want to go along next month when they are back again. I'm very sceptical about this sort of thing but interested to hear of any other experiences out there? Or evidence to suggest it works or doesn't work Edited May 10, 2016 by Jambo_in_Hamilton Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MrRobbo10 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 (edited) Yeah it 100% works mate Edited May 10, 2016 by MrRobbo10 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
reaths17 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 the big man couldnae heal his son so I'd be surprised if some naebody from nae where who says they represent the big man can help you Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zoltan socrates Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Evidence it works or not? Go along with a broken leg, I guarantee you won't leave walking Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Norm Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 (edited) the big man couldnae heal his son so I'd be surprised if some naebody from nae where who says they represent the big man can help you I dunno about not being to heal his son. He brought him back from the dead! That's some pretty fine medical treatment if you ask me. Edited May 10, 2016 by Normthebarman Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Gin Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Absolute charlatans. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brandt Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Dangerous people. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Craigieboy Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 I always find it curious how selective the 'healing' is. On the one hand you have random, spurious healings and on the other you have an entire continent of children dying an excruciating death with AIDS. Sounds legit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jb102 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 https://youtu.be/3rQ6BBc8f6Y This should be of help. Sensational. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Gin Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBpiV72pLAo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tian447 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 (edited) But seriously Honestly man.... Edited May 10, 2016 by tian447 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FWJ Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 File with 'Homeopathy'. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Gin Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 (edited) File with 'Homeopathy'. Add both to 'seethe' thread. Edited May 10, 2016 by Ray Gin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MrRobbo10 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Add both to 'seethe' thread.Nothing wrong with gay people ffs Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jambo 4 Ever Posted May 10, 2016 Author Share Posted May 10, 2016 I always find it curious how selective the 'healing' is. On the one hand you have random, spurious healings and on the other you have an entire continent of children dying an excruciating death with AIDS. Sounds legit. Good point... but I said this to someone before and they came back saying that it was the devil doing that and if everyone believed in God, etc, then they would also be healed... makes not much sense to me either to be honest Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jambo 4 Ever Posted May 10, 2016 Author Share Posted May 10, 2016 Evidence it works or not? Go along with a broken leg, I guarantee you won't leave walking http://www.mswm.org/miracles.buddymckay.htm how do you explain this though? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Riddley Walker Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 http://www.mswm.org/miracles.buddymckay.htm how do you explain this though? It's explained by not being true. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jambo 4 Ever Posted May 10, 2016 Author Share Posted May 10, 2016 It's explained by not being true. How do you know though? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tian447 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 http://www.mswm.org/miracles.buddymckay.htm how do you explain this though? Aye right, the big man upstairs managed to just magically get rid of a steel rod and steel screws, healing a broken leg. Here's how it happened: It didn't, and the guy is a fantasist who believes his own lies. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Riddley Walker Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 How do you know though? Because there isn't a shred of evidence to suggest that you can heal something through supernatural powers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Gin Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 http://www.mswm.org/miracles.buddymckay.htm how do you explain this though? :rofl: Seems legit Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mauricio Pinilla Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 FFS Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Gin Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 "About a week after my accident, Pastor Max Solbrekken came to our church - Sandy Lake Revival Centre - for a Gospel Crusade. At that time Harry Rae was our pastor and I was functioning as an evangelist. I did not attend the first service because of the tremendous pain I was experiencing from my leg." Scam artist backing up a fellow scam artist with a false testimony. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Riddley Walker Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 "About a week after my accident, Pastor Max Solbrekken came to our church - Sandy Lake Revival Centre - for a Gospel Crusade. At that time Harry Rae was our pastor and I was functioning as an evangelist. I did not attend the first service because of the tremendous pain I was experiencing from my leg." Scam artist backing up a fellow scam artist with a false testimony. How can people actually believe this? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stokesy Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Anyone have a link to a peer reviewed paper about the guy with the broken leg? I'm sure doctors and scientists would be queuing up to study the character described in the article. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Irufushi Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBpiV72pLAo Healed by 11 pastors. They are sick, people with diabetes and cancer stopping medication because of them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Irufushi Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Like with anything to do with faith, total bullshit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Gin Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 This thread reminded me of these for some reason. Just going to leave them here. Double dropping for the lord Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stokesy Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 The Derren Brown programme on these charlatans was good but depressing. Showed you exactly how they exploit people. On of the best tricks was getting blind people to see again. It worked on the basis that most people that are registered blind have a modicum of vision so you get them to do things they could do before they were "cured". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jambo 4 Ever Posted May 10, 2016 Author Share Posted May 10, 2016 The Derren Brown programme on these charlatans was good but depressing. Showed you exactly how they exploit people. On of the best tricks was getting blind people to see again. It worked on the basis that most people that are registered blind have a modicum of vision so you get them to do things they could do before they were "cured". ahhh that is very manipulative!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Gin Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 While we're on the topic of charlatans: https://www.rt.com/usa/342422-international-psychic-ring-justice-department/ "Perhaps they should?ve seen this coming: An international ring of ?fraudulent? psychics has been shut down by the US Justice Department after it allegedly stole close to $200 million from more than a million Americans." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stokesy Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 While we're on the topic of charlatans: https://www.rt.com/usa/342422-international-psychic-ring-justice-department/ "Perhaps they should?ve seen this coming: An international ring of ?fraudulent? psychics has been shut down by the US Justice Department after it allegedly stole close to $200 million from more than a million Americans." On a somewhat related note. John Oliver segment on the prosperity gospel: You don't get rich writing science fiction. If you want to get rich, you start a religion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Generic Username Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 This thread reminded me of these for some reason. Just going to leave them here. Double dropping for the lord Two of my all time favourite internet finds. TRUST ME! THIS ONE'S A STINKER! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
i8hibsh Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 FFS wake up Quote Link to post Share on other sites
i8hibsh Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 You really see how completely brainwashed and deluded people are in times like this. Take Lourdes for example. Millions of docile sheep flock every year in hope of healing. People with cancer then fight it and say it was healed by their faith. Firstly, people just beat cancer this is a fact and secondly it is so arrogant. What makes them so special that they get healed but others die. Wake up ffs!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Gin Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 The Derren Brown programme on these charlatans was good but depressing. Showed you exactly how they exploit people. On of the best tricks was getting blind people to see again. It worked on the basis that most people that are registered blind have a modicum of vision so you get them to do things they could do before they were "cured". That was a good show. The full episode is available on youtube, called "Miracles for Sale". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Maple Leaf Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 You really see how completely brainwashed and deluded people are in times like this. Take Lourdes for example. Millions of docile sheep flock every year in hope of healing. People with cancer then fight it and say it was healed by their faith. Firstly, people just beat cancer this is a fact and secondly it is so arrogant. What makes them so special that they get healed but others die. Wake up ffs!!! As well as being superstitious nonsense, it's all business. Lourdes is one of the biggest scams going. Although it's a town of only 15,000 people, they get upwards of FIVE MILLION gullible pilgrims every year, and all those lovely pilgrims spend money. As a result, Lourdes has more hotels than any city in France, except for Paris. And the restaurants and souvenir shops do a roaring trade. In the 150 years since Lourdes became a "miracle" site, there have been only 69 unexplained cures among the hundreds of millions of pilgrims. That seems low to me compared to normal remission rates. I figure that there is more likelihood of a person being killed in a traffic accident while traveling to Lourdes than there is of receiving a cure. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
i8hibsh Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 As well as being superstitious nonsense, it's all business. Lourdes is one of the biggest scams going. Although it's a town of only 15,000 people, they get upwards of FIVE MILLION gullible pilgrims every year, and all those lovely pilgrims spend money. As a result, Lourdes has more hotels than any city in France, except for Paris. And the restaurants and souvenir shops do a roaring trade. In the 150 years since Lourdes became a "miracle" site, there have been only 69 unexplained cures among the hundreds of millions of pilgrims. That seems low to me compared to normal remission rates. I figure that there is more likelihood of a person being killed in a traffic accident while traveling to Lourdes than there is of receiving a cure. Such is religion buddy, such is religion. God loves you now give him your effing money. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
i8hibsh Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 As well as being superstitious nonsense, it's all business. Lourdes is one of the biggest scams going. Although it's a town of only 15,000 people, they get upwards of FIVE MILLION gullible pilgrims every year, and all those lovely pilgrims spend money. As a result, Lourdes has more hotels than any city in France, except for Paris. And the restaurants and souvenir shops do a roaring trade. In the 150 years since Lourdes became a "miracle" site, there have been only 69 unexplained cures among the hundreds of millions of pilgrims. That seems low to me compared to normal remission rates. I figure that there is more likelihood of a person being killed in a traffic accident while traveling to Lourdes than there is of receiving a cure. It is like when a bulb blows in the house and some fools believe it is paranormal activity. FFS a bulb blew - it happens. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Generic Username Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 It is like when a bulb blows in the house and some fools believe it is paranormal activity. FFS a bulb blew - it happens. Paranormal activity can occur. I woke up one morning covered in a sticky, translucent substance that I assured my girlfriend had to be ectoplasm as a result of being attacked, around my crotch area, by a ghost during the night. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
i8hibsh Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Paranormal activity can occur. I woke up one morning covered in a sticky, translucent substance that I assured my girlfriend had to be ectoplasm as a result of being attacked, around my crotch area, by a ghost during the night. Sure you just didn't get a gam of slimer? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Generic Username Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 (edited) . Edited May 10, 2016 by audioslave Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cade Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDYba0m6ztE Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MrRobbo10 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDYba0m6ztE Rememvber that from when I was watching bucketloads of Paramount /Comedy Central a while back Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tian447 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Paranormal activity can occur. I woke up one morning covered in a sticky, translucent substance that I assured my girlfriend had to be ectoplasm as a result of being attacked, around my crotch area, by a ghost during the night. And yet, still more credible a story than faith healing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stokesy Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 As well as being superstitious nonsense, it's all business. Lourdes is one of the biggest scams going. Although it's a town of only 15,000 people, they get upwards of FIVE MILLION gullible pilgrims every year, and all those lovely pilgrims spend money. As a result, Lourdes has more hotels than any city in France, except for Paris. And the restaurants and souvenir shops do a roaring trade. In the 150 years since Lourdes became a "miracle" site, there have been only 69 unexplained cures among the hundreds of millions of pilgrims. That seems low to me compared to normal remission rates. I figure that there is more likelihood of a person being killed in a traffic accident while traveling to Lourdes than there is of receiving a cure. From one of Carl Sagan's books: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Demon-Haunted_World "The spontaneous remission rates of all cancers... is estimated to be something between 1 in 10,000 and 1 in 100,000. If no more than 5% of those who come to Lourdes were there to treat their cancers, there should have been something between 50 and 500 'miraculous' cures of cancer alone. Since only 3 of the attested [by the Roman Catholic Church] 65 cures are of cancer, the rate of spontaneous remission at Lourdes seems to be lower than if the victims had just stayed at home." (p.221) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jambo 4 Ever Posted May 10, 2016 Author Share Posted May 10, 2016 Like with anything to do with faith, total bullshit. But what do people have to gain by lying they had been cured? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Norm Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 But what do people have to gain by lying they had been cured? Attention. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Gin Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 (edited) But what do people have to gain by lying they had been cured? The perceived love of 'God'. Edited May 10, 2016 by Ray Gin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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