Millfield_Mackem Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=14958 Wise words from Burley. Also, in other news 'Craig goes Green!'. I have to say, that shirt is vile. Also, on the second page, Gordon looks a bit bent. http://www.safc.com/home/?page_id=14960&cp=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neave Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 Our Craig isny the best looking/most photogenic laddie in the world, is he? He also looks gutted he's having to wear green. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GhostHunter Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 Someone stole Craig's waist ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brellierlegend Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 Ever think of smiling Craig? lol I think Gordon does have the potential to become one of the best keepers in Europe. From his time at Hearts I felt he was a little weak in two areas. 1) His kicking. 2) I feel he could come off his line more and be a little more commanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
269miles Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=14958 Wise words from Burley. Also, in other news 'Craig goes Green!'. I have to say, that shirt is vile. Also, on the second page, Gordon looks a bit bent. http://www.safc.com/home/?page_id=14960&cp=0 Us Jambos have been saying it for years but it's nice to seee Burley bumming him up. As for the goalies kit : that has to be one of the dreariest outfits ever. It's more like a camouflage outfit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millfield_Mackem Posted May 30, 2008 Author Share Posted May 30, 2008 Ever think of smiling Craig? lol I think Gordon does have the potential to become one of the best keepers in Europe. From his time at Hearts I felt he was a little weak in two areas. 1) His kicking. 2) I feel he could come off his line more and be a little more commanding. Many of our supporters have spotted them weaknesses. His kicking has vastly improved and towards the end of the season, vocally he was excellent and commanded his box well, due to the presence of Jonny Evans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djf Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 Noticed his kicking has improved a lot this season. To be honest, i'm not to fussed about Craig being the undisputed #1 best goalkeeper in the whole wide entire world, simply taking pride in the fact that we've brought through a guy who is now undoubtably one of the top 10 players in his position in the world. Something we don't give ourselves nearly enough credit for. Makes a change from the days when we had to argue over him merely looking good because he plays in the SPL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 On natural ability he is one of the best in the world already. But as an all round goalkeeper he still has alot of work to do. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 I guess that puts to bed all talk of Macgregor replacing him soon as Scotlands no1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K1874M Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 Many of our supporters have spotted them weaknesses. His kicking has vastly improved and towards the end of the season, vocally he was excellent and commanded his box well, due to the presence of Jonny Evans Who's your GK coach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 I guess that puts to bed all talk of Macgregor replacing him soon as Scotlands no1 It wont stop the Glasgow media from trying led by SDM bandwagonner in chief Keith Jackson. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshallschunkychicken Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 That strip is honking! Are Sunderland trying to force the lad out of the club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Romanov Saviour of HMFC Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 Noticed his kicking has improved a lot this season. To be honest, i'm not to fussed about Craig being the undisputed #1 best goalkeeper in the whole wide entire world, simply taking pride in the fact that we've brought through a guy who is now undoubtably one of the top 10 players in his position in the world. Something we don't give ourselves nearly enough credit for. Makes a change from the days when we had to argue over him merely looking good because he plays in the SPL. Sorry but he is nowhere near one of the top 10 keepers in the world. He is a great keeper but has a long, long way to go to even be considered as one of the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibrahim Tall Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 Sorry but he is nowhere near one of the top 10 keepers in the world. He is a great keeper but has a long, long way to go to even be considered as one of the best. Casillas, Buffon, Cech, Van Der Sarr? Past that there isn't many i'd definetly have ahead of him imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Romanov Saviour of HMFC Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 Casillas, Buffon, Cech, Van Der Sarr? Past that there isn't many i'd definetly have ahead of him imo. Mate, half the Premiership are on par with CG! He has outstanding natural ability but as a complete GK he has a lot of flaws in his game (that will improve in time) I'm not taking anything away from him ... he was amazing for us. Just commenting without my maroon tinted glasses on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neave Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 Mate, half the Premiership are on par with CG! He has outstanding natural ability but as a complete GK he has a lot of flaws in his game (that will improve in time) I'm not taking anything away from him ... he was amazing for us. Just commenting without my maroon tinted glasses on! Kerekt. Goalkeepers are judged on their consistency and reliability as well as their general ability. CG made a number of suspect mistakes last season (particularly at the start) and, until these are ironed out, he won't be conisdered one of the 'elite'. If (when) these flaws are fixed, then he has every chance of matching or even surpassing the list of great 'keepers Nino listed above. As he is just now, though, he's nowhere near, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 I guess that puts to bed all talk of Macgregor replacing him soon as Scotlands no1 Even my Rangers mad flatmate thinks Gordon is way better, but thinks MacGregor is a great goalie as well. Think its really good to know that Scotland have two really good goalies, who will be around for a long time to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millfield_Mackem Posted May 30, 2008 Author Share Posted May 30, 2008 Who's your GK coach? Raymond Van de Gouw (sp) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy hearts Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 with the exception of cech all the 'best goalkeepers' in the world are over 30 so if you were to take how much experience he has and age into account i would say he probably is one of the top 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 Hope he returns on a free in 4 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sconnie Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 Van Der Sar Foster Cech Cudicini Almunia Riena Howard Carson Friedel James Green Robinson Given Schwarzer Kirkland Jaaskelainen Hahnemann Without the maroon tinted specs I'd say these players were as good, if not better than Craig Gordon. Give him a few more years though and he'll be better than alot of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Ian Malcolm Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 Van Der SarFoster Cech Cudicini Almunia Riena Howard Carson Friedel James Green Robinson Given Schwarzer Kirkland Jaaskelainen Hahnemann Without the maroon tinted specs I'd say these players were as good, if not better than Craig Gordon. Give him a few more years though and he'll be better than alot of them. Robinson and Carson have been found out at International level big time - can't say the same about Gordon. Foster has had one good season at Watford and still has it all to prove, and Hanhemann? Surely you're not suggesting hes even close to Gordon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawaii Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 Peter Shilton rates him http://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/safc/Shilton-Gordon-will-get-better.4135993.jp Probably knows more about what makes a good goalkeeper than posters on kickback... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strachan04 Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 Van Der SarFoster Cech Cudicini Almunia Riena Howard Carson Friedel James Green Robinson Given Schwarzer Kirkland Jaaskelainen Hahnemann Without the maroon tinted specs I'd say these players were as good, if not better than Craig Gordon. Give him a few more years though and he'll be better than alot of them. Have we forgotten about Buffon as well? most expensive 'keeper mind. I don't know who would be in the running for number one though. Buffon could be in for a shout because I don't think Cech's been the same since that head knock. Can't blame him really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sconnie Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 Robinson and Carson have been found out at International level big time - can't say the same about Gordon. Foster has had one good season at Watford and still has it all to prove, and Hanhemann? Surely you're not suggesting hes even close to Gordon? True, but I wouldn't say Gordon was under pressure when he plays for Scotland. The English media always speculate about who'll have the England number 1. As for Hahnemann, he's a solid goalkeeper and he's better than The Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sconnie Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 Have we forgotten about Buffon as well? most expensive 'keeper mind. I don't know who would be in the running for number one though. Buffon could be in for a shout because I don't think Cech's been the same since that head knock. Can't blame him really. It's a list of Premiership players, or I'd have Buffon, Cassilas and Coupet etc... Gordon needs a few more years yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommythejambo Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 Van Der SarFoster - Maybe, not seen anything of him since he left Watford. Can't get a game over Kuzcak (sp) so can't be THAT good Cech Cudicini - Yer a**e if he wan't past it and had any ambition I'd say maybe. Looked Tam Kite every time he's played for Chelsea lately though. Almunia - Dodgy. Riena - Can kick and has great reflexes but not that good an all round goalie. Howard - No explaination needed, one of teh worst goalies in the Prem. Carson - Nah Friedel James Green Robinson - Don't make me laugh. fat and useless. Struggles to get a game over one of the most dodgy goalies (Cerny) I've seen in my puff. Given Schwarzer - Rank rotten. At fault for all 4 when Middlesborough lost the UEFa cup final, truly awful goalkeeper. Kirkland Jaaskelainen Hahnemann - if goalkeeping was all about palming shots into your own net and not being very good, he'd be up there. Without the maroon tinted specs I'd say these players were as good, if not better than Craig Gordon. Give him a few more years though and he'll be better than alot of them. That's my opinion anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambovambo Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 Someone stole Craig's waist ! That's right. That's been tinkered with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strachan04 Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 Gordon needs a few more years yet. Yeah, I'd agree with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blondejamtart Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 Robinson better than Gordon? He's not even fit to lace Craigy's boots - and that's being nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djf Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 I don't think there are many keepers better than CG in one on ones. His positioning is always excellent. At times I think he is underrated as he doesn't have to make spectacular saves all that often due to his awareness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 Do they not do any decent acne treatments these days:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Ross Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 If Gordon does not win 'keeper of the year next year in England I'll be surprised. To come back from a dodgy start and produce shows his character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del1812 Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 Van Der SarFoster Cech Cudicini Almunia Riena Howard Carson Friedel James Green Robinson Given Schwarzer Kirkland Jaaskelainen Hahnemann Without the maroon tinted specs I'd say these players were as good, if not better than Craig Gordon. Give him a few more years though and he'll be better than alot of them. As a Spurs fan I feel confident enough to say that is THE worst footballing opinion ever. Paul Robinson is just so rank rotten it's hard to put into words. Gordon is so much better. Plus, Foster? Based on what? Not too convinced by the shouts of Hahnemann, Jaaskelainen, Schwarzer, Carson, Howard and Cudicini either. Spose it's all about opinions. Apart from the Robinson one, just plain wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 Craig is very aware if the weker areas of his game and has been working very hard to improve them. Give him three more years and he'll be up there with the greats. ?9million was a bargain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jubilee Spree Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 Craig is very aware if the weker areas of his game and has been working very hard to improve them. Give him three more years and he'll be up there with the greats. ?9million was a bargain. He made some top saves today but came flapping for a few crosses, especially in the first half. Still young in goalkeeper terms though - long way to go - but at this stage he's one of the best goalkeepers Scotland has ever seen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 Foster is not even the number 2 keeper at Man Utd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Buaben Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 Foster is not even the number 2 keeper at Man Utd. He has been injured for most of the season though but will force his way in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigwull22 Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 Who cares Gordon is a Mackem now no longer a Heart of Midlothian player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie-Brown Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 Who cares Gordon is a Mackem now no longer a Heart of Midlothian player. Craig Gordon is Hearts through and through and currently the best testament of our ability to produce good players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigwull22 Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 Craig Gordon is Hearts through and through and currently the best testament of our ability to produce good players. But he doesn't play for us now, get over it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.N.T.H. Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 Some of the goalkeepers on that post listed as being better than Gordon are ridiculous, IMO. Hahnemann, Schwarzer, Carson, Howard, Reina, Almunia, Cudicini and Ben Foster.. WTF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del1812 Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 But he doesn't play for us now, get over it So we can't be proud of ex-players? Ok no celebrating the former talents of Bobby Walker, Tommy Walker, Willie Bauld, Jimmy Wardhaugh, Alfie Conn, Dave Mackay, John Cumming, Alex Young, Jimmy Murray, Donald Ford, Alex McDonald, Henry Smith, Gary Mackay, John Colqhoun, John Robertson, Gilles Rousset, Stephane Adam, Steven Pressley, Colin Cameron, Antti Niemi or Paul Hartley? What? They don't play for Hearts anymore either. There's nothing wrong with being proud of former players, despite them still playing football for another club. Especially one who is a top class talent, came through our youth system, was a Hearts fan all his life and was captain of the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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