the general Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 should be pretty exciting stuff City in Pot 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We_are_the_Hearts Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 More interested in the League Cup draw to be honest............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Jarman Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 The pots One: Barcelona, Bayern Munich, Benfica, Chelsea , Juventus, Paris St. Germain, Zenit, PSV Eindhoven Two: Arsenal , Atletico Madrid, Bayer Leverkusen, Manchester City , Manchester United , Real Madrid, Porto, Valencia Three: CSKA Moscow, Dynamo Kiev, Lyon, Olympiakos, Galatasaray, Roma, Shakhtar Donetsk, Sevilla Four: Astana, BATE Borisov, Borussia Monchengladbach, Wolfsburg, Dinamo Zagreb, Maccabi Tel-Aviv, Gent, Malmo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboPete Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 More interested in the League Cup draw to be honest............ This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We_are_the_Hearts Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 The pots One: Barcelona, Bayern Munich, Benfica, Chelsea , Juventus, Paris St. Germain, Zenit, PSV Eindhoven Two: Arsenal , Atletico Madrid, Bayer Leverkusen, Manchester City , Manchester United , Real Madrid, Porto, Valencia Three: CSKA Moscow, Dynamo Kiev, Lyon, Olympiakos, Galatasaray, Roma, Shakhtar Donetsk, Sevilla Four: Astana, BATE Borisov, Borussia Monchengladbach, Wolfsburg, Dinamo Zagreb, Maccabi Tel-Aviv, Gent, Malmo Hope Chelsea get Real Madrid, Sevilla and Wolfsburg and get pumped every game.................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmiyaHearts Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 CL is a lot of shite. Could count the good matches last season on one hand. I won't bother with it this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Buck Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Benfica, Zenit and PSV in pot one but both Madrids and Man Utd pot two? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 CL is a lot of shite. Could count the good matches last season on one hand. I won't bother with it this year. correct, just an excuse for the big clubs/countries to print money. I'll probably watch when it gets to the semi and final but that will be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 No (SCO) on those pieces of paper. This would look good next season though Heart of Midlothian FC (SCO) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We_are_the_Hearts Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Benfica, Zenit and PSV in pot one but both Madrids and Man Utd pot two? Only Champions in Pot 1. It was the same with the last qualifying round, Champions in 1 pot, the rest in another pot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alicante jambo Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Its a load of shite now.Been like that for years.Its no even the champions that are in it.Seeding is wrong aswell.Its set out to make the rich teams richer and the smaller teams dissapear earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the general Posted August 27, 2015 Author Share Posted August 27, 2015 Updated with my best guess at TV pairingsLive begins on Thursday 27th August @4:30pm GMT with the first heated/chilled ball pulled out of the fix machine at 4:45pmThe draw pots are as follows - based on club coefficients at the end of last season:Pot 1 (Champions):FC Barcelona (ESP, holders) coefficient: 164.999FC Bayern M?nchen (GER) 154.883Chelsea FC (ENG) 142.078SL Benfica (POR) 118.276Paris Saint-Germain (FRA) 100.483Juventus (ITA) 95.102FC Zenit (RUS) 90.099PSV Eindhoven (NED) 58.195Pot 2:Real Madrid CF (ESP) 171.999Club Atl?tico de Madrid (ESP) 120.999FC Porto (POR) 111.276Arsenal FC (ENG) 110.078Manchester United FC (ENG) 103.078 [Q1}Valencia CF (ESP) 99.999 [Q2]Bayer 04 Leverkusen (GER) 87.883 [Q3]Manchester City FC (ENG) 87.078Pot 3:FC Shakhtar Donetsk (UKR) 86.033 [Q4]Sevilla FC (ESP) 80.499Olympique Lyonnais (FRA) 72.983FC Dynamo Kyiv (UKR) 65.033Olympiacos FC (GRE) 62.380PFC CSKA Moskva (RUS) 55.599 [Q5]Galatasaray A? (TUR) 50.020AS Roma (ITA) 43.602Pot 4:VfL Borussia M?nchengladbach (GER) 33.883VfL Wolfsburg (GER) 31.883FC BATE Borisov (BLR) 35.150 [Q6]GNK Dinamo Zagreb (CRO) 24.700 [Q7]Maccabi Tel-Aviv FC (ISR) 18.200 [Q8]KAA Gent (BEL) 13.440Malm? FF (SWE) 12.545 [Q9]FC Astana (KAZ) 3.825 [Q10] KAZ = Kazakhstan10 Qualifiers from play-off games5 Play-Off Winners (League Qualifying Route):AS Monaco FC (FRA) 31.483 -OR- Valencia CF (ESP) 99.999 (Agg: 3-4) -> Valencia into Pot 2.FC Shakhtar Donetsk (UKR) 86.033 -OR- SK Rapid Wien (AUT) 15.635 (Agg: 3-3) -> Shakhtar into pot 3 on away goals.Club Brugge KV (BEL) 41.440 -OR- Manchester United FC (ENG) 103.078 (Agg: 1-7) -> Utd into pot 2.Bayer 04 Leverkusen (GER) 87.883 -OR- SS Lazio (ITA) 49.102 (Agg: 3-1) -> Bayer into pot 2.PFC CSKA Moskva (RUS) 55.599 -OR- Sporting Clube de Portugal (POR) 56.276 (Agg: 4-3) -> CSKA into Pot 3.5 Play-Off Winners (Champions Route):GNK Dinamo Zagreb (CRO) 24.700 -OR- KF Sk?nderbeu (ALB) 5.575 (Agg: 6-2) -> Dinamo into Pot 4.Maccabi Tel-Aviv FC (ISR) 18.200 -OR- FC Basel 1893 (SUI) 84.875 (Agg: 3-3) -> Maccabi into Pot 4 on away goals.Malm? FF (SWE) 12.545 -OR- Celtic FC (SCO) 39.080 (Agg: 4-3) -> Malm? into Pot 4.APOEL FC (CYP) 35.460 -OR- FC Astana (KAZ) 3.825 (Agg: 1-2) -> Astana into Pot 4.FK Partizan (SRB) 14.775 -OR- FC BATE Borisov (BLR) 35.150 (Agg: 2-2) -> Bate into Pot 4 on away goals.Draw Groups, Red/Blue Groups and Sides of the Draw:If the Draw is arranged as previously then... Champions League Groups A to D are 'red' groups and on the 'red' side of the draw. Champions League Groups E to H are 'blue' groups and on the 'blue' side of the draw. The 'blue' side of the draw (Groups E to H) is the other side of the draw to the 'red side' of the draw (Groups A to D). Similarly, the 'red' side of the draw is the other side of the draw to the 'blue' side of the draw. Special Draw Rules: Russian and Ukrainian teams will not be able to play each other!TV pairing principle: Once one team in a TV pairing is drawn to a red group (A to D) or blue group (E to H) then the second team in the TV pairing can only be drawn to a group on the other side of the draw. Examples [1] if Barcelona are drawn to Group C (a red group) then their pair (normally Real Madrid) can only be placed in a blue group (E-H). [2] If Barcelona are drawn to Group F (a blue group) then their pair (normally Real Madrid) can only be placed in a red group (A-D).Known TV pairings: France (FRA): Paris Saint-Germain [Pot 1] & Olympique Lyonnais [Pot 3]. Italy (ITA): Juventus [Pot 1] & Roma (Pot 3]. Portugal (POR): SL Benfica [Pot 1] & FC Porto [Pot 2]. Russia (RUS): FC Zenit [Pot 1] & PFC CSKA Moskva [Pot 3]. Spain (ESP) [1]*: FC Barcelona [Pot 1] & Real Madrid [Pot 2]. Ukraine (UKR): FC Dynamo Kyiv [Pot 2] & FC Shakhtar Donetsk [3]. Note: * = This TV pairing is in a country with more than 2 teams in the draw. It is a pair that id NORMALLY set up by the countries broadcaster(s). That said there is no absolute guarantee that this pairing will be in place for this draw!Unknown TV pairings: England: Chelsea/Arsenal/Manchester City/Manchester United Germany: Bayern Munich/VfL Borussia M?nchengladbach/VfL Wolfsburg/Bayer 04 Leverkusen Spain: Club Atl?tico de Madrid/Sevilla FC/Valencia CF My Best Guess At Unknown TV pairings: England [1]*#: Arsenal [Pot 2] & Manchester United [Pot 2] England [2]*#: Chelsea [pot 1] & Manchester City [pot 2] Germany [1]*%: Bayern Munich [Pot 1] & VfL Borussia M?nchengladbach [Pot 4] Germany [2]*%] Bayer 04 Leverkusen [Pot 2] & VfL Wolfsburg [Pot 4] Spain (ESP) [2]*%: Atl?tico de Madrid [pot 2] & Valencia CF [Pot 2] Notes: # = This English TV pairing is predicted as it will guarantee an Arsenal or Man Utd game on any Champions League night. THEY MAY STILL APPLY SKY'S LOGIC OF Arsenal/City & Chelsea/Utd but as there is now only one broadcaster they will want a big game every night.# = These TV pairings mean the teams with the highest average attendances play on separate evenings in the champions League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RudiHMFC Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Astana Gent BATE Borisov Maccabi whipping boys. PSV pot one they haven't even been in the CL for a few years now IIRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Jarman Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Was listening to 5 live last night while making tea and they were discussing the toughest group Man Utd could get with, name escapes me but he was described as 'BBC's European Football Expert', and in his opinion the toughest group was Barca, Man Utd, Sevilla and Wolfsburg. Now I wouldn't call myself a European football expert but even I know you can only have one team per country in each group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RudiHMFC Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Zenit Shakhtar Astana would be a ****er for one of the English teams travelling wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Buck Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Only Champions in Pot 1. It was the same with the last qualifying round, Champions in 1 pot, the rest in another pot Never knew that actually. I thought it was based on team's history in Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Buaben Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 question answered. Should read whole thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RudiHMFC Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 edit: forget my ramblings if anyone's seen them. Sorry. I seen them. Shame on you. Ban plz mods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamie1874 Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Never knew that actually. I thought it was based on team's history in Europe. This is the first year of the new seeding system. The league champions of the top ranking countries are in pot 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorskJambo Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Should be interesting no norway teams though :bomb2: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Jarman Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Zenit Shakhtar Astana would be a ###### for one of the English teams travelling wise. Special Draw Rules: Russian and Ukrainian teams will not be able to play each other! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Internet Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 CL is shite Could count the good games I've seen last year on one hand Don't care Won't be watching Jkb bingo almost complete, just need the 'too much money' stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amoruso_lets_it_run Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Not interested in which combination of the same teams gets trotted out once again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgaro Gomis Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 CL is shite Could count the good games I've seen last year on one hand Don't care Won't be watching Jkb bingo almost complete, just need the 'too much money' stuff. Think the below may just about cover the too much money aspect too: Its a load of shite now.Been like that for years.Its no even the champions that are in it.Seeding is wrong aswell.Its set out to make the rich teams richer and the smaller teams dissapear earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuel Camazzola Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 CL is shite Could count the good games I've seen last year on one hand Don't care Won't be watching Jkb bingo almost complete, just need the 'too much money' stuff. That one gets saved for EPL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RudiHMFC Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 CL is shite Could count the good games I've seen last year on one hand Don't care Won't be watching Jkb bingo almost complete, just need the 'too much money' stuff. Do we really need this on every thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We_are_the_Hearts Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Do we really need this on every thread? It's International weekend next week, can already predict the "Scotland are sh1te", "don't care about Scotland", "hope they get pumped" "won't be watching" comments. Then if we qualify for a tourny they will all be giving it big licks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RudiHMFC Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 It's International weekend next week, can already predict the "Scotland are sh1te", "don't care about Scotland", "hope they get pumped" "won't be watching" comments. Then if we qualify for a tourny they will all be giving it big licks Aye, Probably, "Fletcher is pish" is a favoured catchphrase for many aswell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Treasurer Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 should be pretty exciting stuff City in Pot 2 Probably the most exciting part of the whole CL money making farce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Treasurer Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 It's International weekend next week, can already predict the "Scotland are sh1te", "don't care about Scotland", "hope they get pumped" "won't be watching" comments. Then if we qualify for a tourny they will all be giving it big licks What has this got to do with the CL draw ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We_are_the_Hearts Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 What has this got to do with the CL draw ? It was just an example of arseholes saying they don't care then posting on the thread. Look at me, look at me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Treasurer Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 It was just an example of arseholes saying they don't care then posting on the thread. Look at me, look at me Personally I don't care much for the cash-machine that is the CL either, that's why I posted on a thread about it. To share my views with others. Nothing to do with "look at me" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robroy1874 Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 No (SCO) on those pieces of paper. This would look good next season though Heart of Midlothian FC (SCO) Wouldn't it just Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 CL is shite Could count the good games I've seen last year on one hand Don't care Won't be watching Jkb bingo almost complete, just need the 'too much money' stuff. Yeah it is tedious isn't it? Same every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 CL is shite Could count the good games I've seen last year on one hand Don't care Won't be watching Jkb bingo almost complete, just need the 'too much money' stuff. I do find it amusing when people with no interest in something join in a thread about it, just to say how much they aren't interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 CL is shite Could count the good games I've seen last year on one hand Don't care Won't be watching Jkb bingo almost complete, just need the 'too much money' stuff. May I add: "GET ON WITH IT!!!!" to the list ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RudiHMFC Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 I like that bald guy that does the draw, doesn't take it too seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Internet Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 May I add: "GET ON WITH IT!!!!" to the list ? That one is acceptable. The draw takes an utterly absurd amount of time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RudiHMFC Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Barcelona first out. Group E for they *****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Internet Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Maldini Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RudiHMFC Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Maldini Melanie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RudiHMFC Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Arsenal paired with Bayern nae luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Jarman Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Man U always seem to skoosh the group draw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Jarman Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 PSG and Madrid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Man U always seem to skoosh the group draw. Warm ball? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Jarman Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Juve and Citeh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watt-Zeefuik Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 All the best of luck to the Swedes. They continue to bring us such joy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RudiHMFC Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Different guests for different pots **** me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Jarman Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Different guests for different pots **** me. Painful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RudiHMFC Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Man U have got a mickey mouse group as usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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