Health Nazis to quiz patients

[Ulysses]

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I'm not sure why you feel the need to talk down to me, but I recommend that you don't as it only makes you look insecure in your argument.

 

There are a lot of people in society, so there are a lot of different motivations, principles, values and beliefs. There are sometimes conflicts and tensions between those motivations, principles, values and beliefs. The role of government institutions and public services (whether in a democracy or otherwise) is not merely to serve individuals or groups; it is to mediate between individuals and society, and to moderate the rights and responsibilities that individuals and collective society have to each other. If government institutions and public services do this well, then they serve society well.

 

You place a high premium on "liberty", and like many people who do, "liberty" is as you personally define it to be. Others place a lesser premium on "liberty", especially when it comes into conflict with other things that they value. And others place quite a high premium on "liberty", but don't assume they know better than everyone else as to what "liberty" means. None of this is new; Nye Bevan was writing about this more than 50 years ago, and in recent years much has been written about the same ideas and their impact on government institutions and public services. As I've said already, the importance people attach to different ideas and principles of government ebbs and flows over time. Right now you feel that the mainstream ethic is out of line with your view. At some point in the future you may feel differently.

[neobis]

I'm not sure why you feel the need to talk down to me, but I recommend that you don't as it only makes you look insecure in your argument.

 

Its a common trait he uses when not really having answers to the questions he is posed with.

[CompleteIdiot]

I'm not sure why you feel the need to talk down to me, but I recommend that you don't as it only makes you look insecure in your argument.

 

There are a lot of people in society, so there are a lot of different motivations, principles, values and beliefs. There are sometimes conflicts and tensions between those motivations, principles, values and beliefs. The role of government institutions and public services (whether in a democracy or otherwise) is not merely to serve individuals or groups; it is to mediate between individuals and society, and to moderate the rights and responsibilities that individuals and collective society have to each other. If government institutions and public services do this well, then they serve society well.

 

You place a high premium on "liberty", and like many people who do, "liberty" is as you personally define it to be. Others place a lesser premium on "liberty", especially when it comes into conflict with other things that they value. And others place quite a high premium on "liberty", but don't assume they know better than everyone else as to what "liberty" means. None of this is new; Nye Bevan was writing about this more than 50 years ago, and in recent years much has been written about the same ideas and their impact on government institutions and public services. As I've said already, the importance people attach to different ideas and principles of government ebbs and flows over time. Right now you feel that the mainstream ethic is out of line with your view. At some point in the future you may feel differently.

 

All your quotes end up as a string of dots?

 

Nye Bevan was a socialist. I am not a socialist, communist, fascist, conservative, liberal etc.

 

Liberty does not change over time. If you set out some basic libertarian principles, they stand the test of time. The US Constitution is one such document. Now people are being arrested for reading it. According to Bush, you are a terrorist for reading the constitution.

 

You have a great opportunity with that neutral Republic you have there in Ireland. You're blowing it though. Ireland is currently just another interfering slave state of the EU.

 

I am telling you I won't feel differently. I realise what the world is about. I needed war to jolt me into this epiphany. This is common. Ron Paul was the number one candidate amongst veterans.

 

I know your views because they are just standard given out beliefs. They are the things I 'understood' to be true but never understood why they should make sense (as they don't). They are nonsensical.

 

Liberty is always first. Tell me. Why do you have the right to take mine?

[CompleteIdiot]

Its a common trait he uses when not really having answers to the questions he is posed with.

 

Maybe when reality comes to you, everything will make sense. Just now you are a rich geezer with a constant desire to fit the perfect paradigm.

 

I have a 50" plasma, a nice flat etc... yet I am not into your eugenics movement.

 

Moral thought isn't a money thing or a desire to fit in. Did Jesus fit in?

 

Oh I forgot. You don't believe in Jesus. Do you believe in anything?

[neobis]

yet I am not into your eugenics movement.

 

 

My apologies I not into your dysgenics movement.

[CompleteIdiot]

My apologies I not into your dysgenics movement.

 

Does having a ?1,500 telly make me better than you?

 

I am kind of losing track of how y'all think.

[neobis]

Does having a ?1,500 telly make me better than you?

 

If you think so then go ahead!

 

P.S - Someone likes hiding their online status ....paranoia strike again ...... I rest my case m'laud; case closed.

[CompleteIdiot]

If you think so then go ahead!

 

P.S - Someone likes hiding their online status ....paranoia strike again ...... I rest my case m'laud; case closed.

 

LOL. You can't handle me being wealthy. What do you think someone with a Ph.D gets paid?

 

This isn't about wealth. It is about freedom.

[CompleteIdiot]

Does having a ?1,500 telly make me better than you?

 

I am kind of losing track of how y'all think.

 

I should point out that there was a great deal made about my TV before neobis modified his post. He has a 37" inch apparently.

[neobis]

LOL. You can't handle me being wealthy. What do you think someone with a Ph.D gets paid?

 

This isn't about wealth. It is about freedom.

 

Cant handle?

 

I merely stated that if you have a larger TV then me and makes you feel better then go ahead. You read far to much into things, or you do it deliberately to provoke a reaction etc.

 

How you got to wealth here is a mystery.

 

P.S - Are you online now or offline? ..... popular word of the day .... paranoia.

[neobis]

I should point out that there was a great deal made about my TV before neobis modified his post. He has a 37" inch apparently.

 

He cant even read.

 

I have a 32" plasma TV.

 

A great deal? Here it is the actual quote:

 

P.S - You have 50" plasma, I only have a 32" plasma.

 

Yeah ... great deal.

[CompleteIdiot]

Cant handle?

 

I merely stated that if you have a larger TV then me and makes you feel better then go ahead. You read far to much into things, or you do it deliberately to provoke a reaction etc.

 

How you got to wealth here is a mystery.

 

P.S - Are you online now or offline? ..... popular word of the day .... paranoia.

 

Pay these nice people at kickback a fiver FFS you cheap git.

 

I paid mine so my status isn't recorded.

[CompleteIdiot]

He cant even read.

 

I have a 32" plasma TV.

 

A great deal? Here it is the actual quote:

 

 

 

Yeah ... great deal.

 

Cheapskate

[neobis]

Pay these nice people at kickback a fiver FFS you cheap git.

 

I paid mine so my status isn't recorded.

 

Why do I need to pay my ?5?

 

Do I want a personal avatar, no.

 

Do I want unlimited PM messages, no.

 

Do I need to be paranoid and have my online status as offline, no.

 

Do I need any of these benefits that being a member provide .... no.

 

Case closed.

[neobis]

Cheapskate

 

I'll upgrade when my TV packs in.

[CompleteIdiot]

Why do I need to pay my ?5?

 

Do I want a personal avatar, no.

 

Do I want unlimited PM messages, no.

 

Do I need to be paranoid and have my online status as offline, no.

 

Do I need any of these benefits that being a member provide .... no.

 

Case closed.

 

Hey, if you are poor that's cool. I donate money to causes all the time. Mostly more than ?10. I like supporting causes.

[CompleteIdiot]

I'll upgrade when my TV packs in.

 

Can I send you a food pack or something? I don't like people living in poverty.

[neobis]

Hey, if you are poor that's cool. I donate money to causes all the time. Mostly more than ?10. I like supporting causes.

 

Can I send you a food pack or something? I don't like people living in poverty.

 

Fair play, good on you.

 

Its a predictable response and as I have already stated on this thread about your posting techniques I am not rising.

[CompleteIdiot]

Fair play, good on you.

 

Its a predictable response and as I have already stated on this thread about your posting techniques I am not rising.

 

You can only afford a small TV etc. I'll pay. I'll do what I can.

[neobis]

You can only afford a small TV etc. I'll pay. I'll do what I can.

 

As before:

 

Its a predictable response and as I have already stated on this thread about your posting techniques I am not rising.

[CompleteIdiot]

As before:

 

You are hilarious. We have to meet. Drop me a line.

[CompleteIdiot]

I actually like neobis. We just diverge on most things.

[neobis]

You are hilarious. We have to meet. Drop me a line.

 

Bizarre.

 

Out of curiosity why do you hide your online status? I think 'we' already know .....

 

On a side note I love Black Sabbath, just put them on.

[neobis]

I actually like neobis. We just diverge on most things.

 

Nice.

[coppercrutch]

Neobis and completeidiot...

 

 

Are they...you know....'together'....................

[geddy]

I remember being for a routine check up at the doctors, and he was asking me all sorts of questions about my habits. He asked me "for instance what did you eat yesterday?". The look on his face when I replied "about 6 pints and a kebab!"

He admitted he didn't expect so honest an answer.

Mind whats the point of lying?

I drink to much....I support Hearts! Thats all the doc needs to know.

[geddy]

Don't know if this has ever been posted before....

 

After an exhaustive review of the research literature, here's the final word on nutrition and health:

 

1. Japanese eat very little fat and suffer fewer heart attacks than us.

2. Mexicans eat a lot of fat and suffer fewer heart attacks than us.

3. Chinese drink very little red wine and suffer fewer heart attacks than us.

4. Italians drink excessive amounts of red wine and suffer fewer heart attacks than us.

5. Germans drink beer and eat lots of sausages and fats and suffer fewer heart attacks than us.

6. The French eat foie-gras, full fat cheese and drink red wine and suffer fewer heart attacks than us

CONCLUSION: Eat and drink what you like. Speaking English is apparently what kills you.

[Boris]

Don't know if this has ever been posted before....

 

After an exhaustive review of the research literature, here's the final word on nutrition and health:

 

1. Japanese eat very little fat and suffer fewer heart attacks than us.

2. Mexicans eat a lot of fat and suffer fewer heart attacks than us.

3. Chinese drink very little red wine and suffer fewer heart attacks than us.

4. Italians drink excessive amounts of red wine and suffer fewer heart attacks than us.

5. Germans drink beer and eat lots of sausages and fats and suffer fewer heart attacks than us.

6. The French eat foie-gras, full fat cheese and drink red wine and suffer fewer heart attacks than us

CONCLUSION: Eat and drink what you like. Speaking English is apparently what kills you.

 

I'm sure I read somewhere that in Scotland a coroner can't say that someone has died of natural causes, therefore 9 times out of ten heart failure is the given reason.

 

This then gives Scotland an artificially high percentage of people dieing due to heart problems.

 

The above could be rubbish though, but it would seem to fit...

[davemclaren]

Neobis and completeidiot...

 

 

Are they...you know....'together'....................

 

I think they are comparing degree certificates and tv screen sizes as we speak......they must be married.

[Doctor FinnBarr]

Now they want dentists to join in!

[Deek]

I'm sure I read somewhere that in Scotland a coroner can't say that someone has died of natural causes, therefore 9 times out of ten heart failure is the given reason.

 

This then gives Scotland an artificially high percentage of people dieing due to heart problems.

 

The above could be rubbish though, but it would seem to fit...

 

We dont have a coroner in Scotland, that is an England & Wales peculiarity.

 

In Scotland all sudden deaths are investigated by the procurator fiscal.

 

All death is a result of the heart stopping. It is what causes the heart to stop which is the cause of death.

 

I.E Heart disease, brain haemorrhage, cancer etc.

[Ulysses]

All your quotes end up as a string of dots?

 

If I'm responding to a specific post I like to quote it so that it is clear what I am responding to - but I prefer not to quote long posts verbatim.

 

 

Nye Bevan was a socialist.

 

I believe he was. What's your point?

 

 

Liberty does not change over time.

 

Yes it does. I'm not saying that's a good thing or a bad thing, but it does.

 

 

If you set out some basic libertarian principles, they stand the test of time. The US Constitution is one such document.

 

I'll leave it to others to debate if the United States Constitution sets out basic libertarian principles, although I can see why one would say that the Bill of Rights does. But it cannot be accused of "standing the test of time". The oldest part of the document is only 220 years old.

 

 

You have a great opportunity with that neutral Republic you have there in Ireland. You're blowing it though. Ireland is currently just another interfering slave state of the EU.

 

A great opportunity for what? My nationality has nothing to do with this.

 

 

I am telling you I won't feel differently.

 

You will, trust me.

 

 

I know your views because they are just standard given out beliefs.

 

If you say so, but I reiterate that this merely illustrates the insecurity of your position and the weakness of your case. If the only way you can respond to what I say is "your views are just standard given out beliefs", it is because you have nothing of substance to counter my views with.

 

 

Liberty is always first. Tell me. Why do you have the right to take mine?

 

If you say so, but all freedoms come with attendant obligations and responsibilities. I don't have the right to take your liberty, but I do have the right to assert that we have other needs as well.

[CompleteIdiot]

If I'm responding to a specific post I like to quote it so that it is clear what I am responding to - but I prefer not to quote long posts verbatim.

 

I believe he was. What's your point?

 

Yes it does. I'm not saying that's a good thing or a bad thing, but it does.

 

I'll leave it to others to debate if the United States Constitution sets out basic libertarian principles, although I can see why one would say that the Bill of Rights does. But it cannot be accused of "standing the test of time". The oldest part of the document is only 220 years old.

 

A great opportunity for what? My nationality has nothing to do with this.

 

You will, trust me.

 

If you say so, but I reiterate that this merely illustrates the insecurity of your position and the weakness of your case. If the only way you can respond to what I say is "your views are just standard given out beliefs", it is because you have nothing of substance to counter my views with.

 

If you say so, but all freedoms come with attendant obligations and responsibilities. I don't have the right to take your liberty, but I do have the right to assert that we have other needs as well.

 

Socialist!

 

Are you pro-EU? The EU is creating documents no one can read easily.