Hearts Heritage Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Based on league position going into the Derby Results from Hearts perspective all time Hearts Better P172 W84 D49 L39 F320 A207 W48.84% D28.49% L22.67% Hibs Better P138 W55 D40 L43 F199 A181 W39.86% D28.99% L31.16% Same P8 W3 D1 L4 F9 A13 W37.50% D12.50% L50.00% since 1983 Hearts Better P73 W37 D26 L10 F119 A61 W50.68% D35.62% L13.70% Hibs Better P46 W18 D16 L12 F53 A49 W39.13% D34.78% L26.09% Same P3 W1 D1 L1 F2 A2 W33.33% D33.33% L33.33% at Tynecastle Hearts Better P37 W22 D13 L2 F63 A27 W59.46% D35.14% L5.41% Hibs Better P18 W9 D5 L4 F20 A15 W50.00% D27.78% L22.22% Same P3 W1 D1 L1 F2 A2 W33.33% D33.33% L33.33% at ER Hearts Better P34 W13 D13 L8 F47 A33 W38.24% D38.24% L23.53% Hibs Better P28 W9 D11 L8 F33 A34 W32.14% D39.29% L28.57% Neutral Hearts Better P2 W2 D0 L0 F9 A1 W100.00% D0.00% L0.00% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry hippo Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Interesting stats. The neutral one just makes me laugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N Lincs Jambo Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 As far as I see it it is a total myth. Having watched my first derby in 1970 the better side (even if not the better side on the day) has usually come out on top. Fortunately since 1983 the better side has for the most part worn maroon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phage Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 I dont think it is that form goes out the window on derby day. The wee team just raise their game when playing us, narrowing the quality gap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gershwin Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 There are no windows involved in a game of football so I'd say it's a myth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco Fascione Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Good stats! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 It's funny this has been brought up as I was talking about this at work recently. I think it's a myth and not just when it comes to Hearts and H1b5. It seems to be a cliche that has stuck in football and somewhat a hopeful superstition of the inferior side going into a match.(form goes out the window theory) If you took the time to look over the history of most derbies in Britain I'm sure the best side in general at that time would be dominating the derby. Of course every dog has their day as have Hibs, but Hearts have been undoubtedly the stronger club for a very long time and this reflects in the derbies. I've said for long enough that Hibs are no stronger than a mid to bottom table Spl club (when they were there) so why should Hearts not expect to beat them regularly(we do of course) as we would other clubs of similar level? The hype of the derby gets in the road sometimes but Paulo Sergio was spot on with his playing down of the hype pre Final in 2012. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts Heritage Posted October 25, 2014 Author Share Posted October 25, 2014 If you look at the Stats When Hearts are better they win just under 50% = Myth However when Hibs are better Hearts win 40% to Hibs 31% = 'Fact' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 I'd say it used to be the case that football went out the window in derbies but it's been much better the last decade or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Loblaw Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 The only time form seems to go out the window is when Hibs are going in as the favourites, we still win most of those games. When we go in as favourites we usually do the business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Benoit Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 If you look at the Stats When Hearts are better they win just under 50% = Myth However when Hibs are better Hearts win 40% to Hibs 31% = 'Fact' So it should read hibs form goes out the window in derbies then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai Cee Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Form goes out the window, but the better team on the day will usually come out in top. Usually the better team is the team that has better players. Usually Hearts have better players than Hibs. That is why we usually win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvery_Moon Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 The only time form seems to go out the window is when Hibs are going in as the favourites, we still win most of those games. When we go in as favourites we usually do the business. I agree with this. I do remember a couple of exceptions though. New Year's day 1998 and the following derby that season. We were flying high whilst doomed Hibs were at the bottom of the league. We drew 2-2 after being 2-0 up at Tynecastle then somehow lost 2-1 at Easter Road. We should win but there are exceptions to every rule which is why I am never more than cautiously optimistic before a derby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Buck Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 A myth. If Hearts are in good form, we win. If Hearts are in poor form, we win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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