Pans Jambo Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Just listening to bbc radio Scotland & they are discussing head injuries due to heading a football. Soccer Moms in America want a maximum amount of times a player can head a ball during a game! Pansies! discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Time to move on to netball. On the other hand it would certainly be one way to encourage playing it on the ground where it mostly should be played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAlim Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 If they want to change it they should do it in their own amateur leagues, why try and change the rules for the whole planet? It's a contact sport so you might get hurt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts Heritage Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 There is some thoughts that heading has caused brain damage Jeff Astle http://en.wikipedia....eath_and_legacy IIRC John Cumming was suffering as well prior to his death. Should this be a case to ban heading though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 There will be wearing padding, like in American Football next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.J Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 The easiest way for FIFA to resolve this is to make it law for all under 16s in the US to wear boxing helmets when playing. The rest of the world, who apparently have no trouble in differentiating a football from a breeze block, brick wall or a condensed four tonnes of diamond nanorod, can then carry on as normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feeno Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 The end of Hoof ball? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted August 28, 2014 Author Share Posted August 28, 2014 Are the modern footballs not much lighter & softer than the balls that used to be used a few decades ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feeno Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Are the modern footballs not much lighter & softer than the balls that used to be used a few decades ago? Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ortarkod Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feeno Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Soccer Moms should stick to what they do best - getting diddled by the Milf Hunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siphiwe Tshabalala Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Worked there for 4 months this year and was involved in club football, they really are concussion daft and i mean daft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 No doubt the Mothers will be backed up by a greasy Lawyer licking his lips at the thought of forthcoming litigation against FIFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homme Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Just listening to bbc radio Scotland & they are discussing head injuries due to heading a football. Soccer Moms in America want a maximum amount of times a player can head a ball during a game! Pansies! discuss. Presumably less head knocks at football makes them a safer bet when handling an Uzi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tartofmidlothian Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Can't wait for the PR machine that is Sepp Blatter to respond to this one..... Of course, if Soccer Moms took their kids to games in really tight shorts, none of this would be a problem... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 There is some thoughts that heading has caused brain damage Jeff Astle http://en.wikipedia....eath_and_legacy IIRC John Cumming was suffering as well prior to his death. Should this be a case to ban heading though? Are the modern footballs not much lighter & softer than the balls that used to be used a few decades ago? wasn't all the possible brain injuries suffered by older players believed to be due to the old heavier balls? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brave Hearts Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 USA Mums don't want their sons heading a football coz it is dangerous but allow them to have the right to possess guns........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2NaFish Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 I don't know the medical effects of heading the ball regularly over a lengthy period, but certainly some ex-players seem punchy. This is just an extension of investigation in to head injury in american football players which is very much in vogue in america right now and appears to be very serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 USA Mums don't want their sons heading a football coz it is dangerous but allow them to have the right to possess guns........ Just what i was going to type. These 'soccer' moms should be castigated for not taking their 9 year olds to 'bullets and burgers' to fire fully automatic machine pistols not pishing about playing the beautiful game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambali Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 If you don't want the injuries - don't play the game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 I don't know the medical effects of heading the ball regularly over a lengthy period, but certainly some ex-players seem punchy. This is just an extension of investigation in to head injury in american football players which is very much in vogue in america right now and appears to be very serious. To be fair the majority of players of a certain age that are incoherent shambling wrecks is generally down to the amount of bevvy they've tanned in over their lifetimes. Step forward one 'Champagne' Charles Nicholas Esq. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 It's easy.. in the USA just ban heading.. that'll keep all the silly soccer moms happy. Studies are being done and should continue to be done....indeed in the times of the old leather footballs there may well have been a case though not through ignoring the facts just through ignorance od the possible side effects. In this day and age there is a responsibility to keep studies up to date and FIFA etc should do so. The law in the USA is a mixture of madness and genius.. this case is being led by the money grabbing sharks of the legal profession aided by the money grabbing parents who sit back and let the sharks do the work for a cut of what will in all probabilty be nothing.........but if its someting then it is more than they would ever get themselves.......I mean asking them to work......soccer moms work !!!...never. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diadora Van Basten Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 America what happened to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrambo Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 If only Hibs had an academy in the US, there's no heading in flair football, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyk Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 I hate the word 'mom' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grantaitchie8 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Not enough :facepalm: for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drewjambobusby Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Just listening to bbc radio Scotland & they are discussing head injuries due to heading a football. Soccer Moms in America want a maximum amount of times a player can head a ball during a game! Pansies! discuss. Harry Kinnear and Ernie Winchester were enforcing this years ago. Couldnae get a Daily Record under their feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JyTees Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 The evidence is pretty damning where the old timers are concerned, the Astle family have a lot of research to back it up. Obviously the heavier balls, playing on with broken necks, cortisone injections and Terry Butcher style bandages didn't help. Certainly moved on from those days. There's still a case for concussion and the long term effects to be looked at though. Players playing on after a heavy head knock happens all the time and can't be doing much good for the long term health. The manager won't drag one of his better players off because of a clash of heads, the club doctor probably won't for fear of the manager and most players certainly wouldn't want to come off. I think the answer is probably a neutral doctor employed solely to look after the players best interests. I know they've done quite a bit in American football. Certainly a lot more head knocks there I'd imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 I hope both lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2NaFish Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 To be fair the majority of players of a certain age that are incoherent shambling wrecks is generally down to the amount of bevvy they've tanned in over their lifetimes. Step forward one 'Champagne' Charles Nicholas Esq. Oh, sure. And some were just thick as mince anyway. But some are certainly punchy. Alls i'm saying is we don't know enough to discount the view that heading a ball can cause damage. But since we don't know it'd be overkill to implement any ban as there's nothing obvious that says brain damage is directly caused by it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkeyeTheGnu2.0 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 I know they've done quite a bit in American football. Certainly a lot more head knocks there I'd imagine. There's been pretty meaty legal action against the NFL over concussion, who knew what and whether the authorities suppressed information over how serious an issue this is/was. There are also some class actions along the same lines against the NHL. It was only a matter of time before people turned their attention to a sport which allows use of the head in normal play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasbottle2 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Some kids are wearing a padded band around their heads just now and it's becomming more common. The concussion thng realy is a big deal here in NC since 2 schoolboys died about 7 or 8 years ago ( although it was American Football they were playing ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masonic Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 their husbands not performing nap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 their pool boy not performing nap FTFY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 More medical training throughout the game on dealing with concussion. I've seen plenty kids take knocks in games only to come back on too quickly to then puke up! No need to ban heading the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 I hate the word 'mom' Me too, part of me dies every time I hear or read it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westbow Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 wasn't all the possible brain injuries suffered by older players believed to be due to the old heavier balls? That must be some maneuver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macros Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Typical American overreaction. I know Freddie Glidden and his family, unfortunately Freddie does suffer memory loss and Rosa,his wife, thinks it may well have stemmed from him regularly heading the old style heavy leather ball, especially when it was wet. Modern footballs are much lighter and have padding in the surface so shouldn't cause as many problems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambosdad Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 There has been a lot of recent media comment on concussion injuries in Rugby Football. The issue is players being coerced back on or not full understanding the seriousness of their injuries. Some of the head clashes seen in games,soccer and on TV over past few years have been horrific but the players more often than not return to the field. In my opinion a lot of these players must be concussed. Having been an egg chaser for many years and suffered concussion from being tackled head first into someone's rear end I cannot see how two solid skulls colliding at pace would be any less serious. However you cannot compare American Football with Soccer as being hit by a 150kg opponent, dressed like he was going into space , helmet first must be a harder shock to the brain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory House M.D. Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 The easiest way for FIFA to resolve this is to make it law for all under 16s in the US to wear boxing helmets when playing. The rest of the world, who apparently have no trouble in differentiating a football from a breeze block, brick wall or a condensed four tonnes of diamond nanorod, can then carry on as normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cigaro Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Limiting it would give us an insight into how many footballers can genuinely count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serge Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Just staple one of these to your centre half's head. If it goes red then send on a soccer mom to bring him off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 send on a soccer mom to bring him off. Is that really necessary? Wouldn't a substitution be better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haj Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Ehhhhh. So heading a plastic ball is a no no but getting leathered in the pus for 12 rounds is all right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bilel Mohsni Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 They hate suing things there, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birregrande Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 On 5-Live right now. TBH they want limited headers for u/17's only. Still think that is unenforceable and a load of p**h. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swavkav Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 America. Full of stupid people, & some good 1's! Soccer Moms should stick to what they do best - getting diddled by the Milf Hunter What site is that on? ;-) USA Mums don't want their sons heading a football coz it is dangerous but allow them to have the right to possess guns........ Head a football or teach your 9 year old how to fire an Uzi 9mm, Yeah ok!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_hmfc Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Who counts how many headers each player has had in three games? Will headed goals be disallowed because wee Stevie's already headed it twice this half already? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJ1970 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 There is a movement across all of the major American sports to try and reduce potential head injuries. Especially amongst younger players. They've worked out that attracting children into a sport is easier if they don't run the risk of becoming a drooling cabbage (& ribs) after a few years. This is the same as rugby banning scrums for young schoolchildren. Having enforced three week breaks for players knocked out of games with concussion. Sometimes it might just be possible for Scottish soccerball to learn from other sports instead of just sneering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2NaFish Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Ironically, banning/limiting heading the ball would lead to more hoofing as there would be no way of defending a long punt. It'd encourage carnage. And because that would enrage hibs, i'm all for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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