mainstandjambo Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Angus Beith and Liam Smith signed new deals until 2016 according to website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Palmer Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 http://www.heartsfc.co.uk/articles/20140723/new-deals-for-duo_2241384_4029572 New deals for duo 23.07.2014 Rising stars Angus Beith and Liam Smith have both pledged their immediate futures to the club. The duo - graduates of the Hearts Football Academy - have signed contract extensions until 2016, keeping them in Gorgie for another two years. 18-year old Angus featured in several first-team squads last season, making his top team bow in the 0-0 friendly match against Wolfbsurg in November 2013. Full-back Liam, also 18, captained last year's U20s to the Final of the Scottish Youth Cup, where the Wee Jambos agonisingly lost out on penalties to Rangers. Both players have found themselves in head coach Robbie Neilson's pre-season plans this campaign as they look impress in the U20s and challenge for spots in the first-team squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Hearing negotiations have turned a bit tentative with Walker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartsfc_fan Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Hearing negotiations have turned a bit tentative with Walker. Didn't think he was out of contract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAlim Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 which players are out of contract next summer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Treasurer Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Hearing negotiations have turned a bit tentative with Walker. Needs to up his game to deserve any sort of deal let alone an improved one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Needs to up his game to deserve any sort of deal let alone an improved one really? I think he's done well but most players at Hearts have room to give more. An improved, revised new deal is on the table but bits and bobs causing it to stall just now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Hearing negotiations have turned a bit tentative with Walker. Any more info? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighusref Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Two year deals at this stage of their careers is right. If we get to next summer and they've in proved we can deal them in again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poultry Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Good new's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bilel Mohsni Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Is walker contracted up until the end of this coming season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feeno Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 I keep waiting on news about Holt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Merse Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Two year deals at this stage of their careers is right. If we get to next summer and they've in proved we can deal them in again. Agreed, 3 max anyway. The 5 year deals we were handing out to every Tom, Dick & Harry a few years back - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrambo Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Agreed, 3 max anyway. The 5 year deals we were handing out to every Tom, Dick & Harry a few years back - Calum Elliot, Jamie Mole, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolkeith Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Good news to get them tied up. Don't think I'd be overly bothered if Walker signed an extension. He's definitely got ability, but his work rate and attitude could be improved. I guess we'll get more of an idea this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Calum Elliot, Jamie Mole, etc. Both did really well though at first.Agree 5 year deals are madness.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bilel Mohsni Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Both did really well though at first.Agree 5 year deals are madness.. Elliot definitely did. He never fulfilled his potential unfortunately, not entirely his fault though. I can't remember ever thinking Mole looked anything other than humpty though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibrahim Tall Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Calum Elliot, Jamie Mole, etc. The two of them atleast did something to be fair, Sean Mackle though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We_are_the_Hearts Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 I don't get this work rate and attitude aimed at Jamie. To me he is always looking for the ball, always involved, always looking to hurt teams in the final third. It doesn't always come off but give that type any day to one that is happy to hang about the fringes of a game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry. Henry. Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 The two of them atleast did something to be fair, Sean Mackle though... Marco Pelosi got a 5 year deal back then too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco Fascione Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Elliot definitely did. He never fulfilled his potential unfortunately, not entirely his fault though. I can't remember ever thinking Mole looked anything other than humpty though. Elliot's best spell was up front beside Jani. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bilel Mohsni Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Elliot's best spell was up front beside Jani. And just behind S Fletcher for his country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc_liam06 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Elliot was superb in the 05/06 season but never really kicked on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 I think Ryan McGowan, Lee Wallace and Andy Driver all got 5 year deals, and IIRC so did Jonathan Brown, Jonathan Stewart and David Armstrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Thomson Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Walker only player who tried to hurt Man City!! Cracking prospect if he keeps progressing!! The type of player you pay money to watch!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 good to get both of them signed up on deals, think are decent prospects. I also think Smith will get more appearances as back up to Paterson and McHattie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masonic Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 normally beef doesnt last for 3 years unless its in a freezer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Angus Beith and Liam Smith signed new deals until 2016 according to website. Terrific news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 The 5 year deals were awarded after taking advice from basketball experts I seem to recall Anyway, would be good to extend Walker but I can't help but think sevco have already been whispering in his ear.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Did Jim McLean not dish out ten year deals when he was at Dundee Utd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrambo Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 What did Jamie Mole do like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 I don't get this work rate and attitude aimed at Jamie. To me he is always looking for the ball, always involved, always looking to hurt teams in the final third. It doesn't always come off but give that type any day to one that is happy to hang about the fringes of a game Fully agree mate. Truly baffled at people saying they wouldn`t be bothered if Walker never got an extension to his contract!? Against Man City you could see he is more developed than others, clever at using his body to shield the ball, skips away from players effortlessly and in fact tracked back very well, so it looks like hes taking that on board. He still has to show consistency but he is very talented and showing signs he`s improving on other aspects of his game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davie1980 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 I get that we are trying to be a bit more risk averse and protect ourselves from being tied to a player who doesn't make it. But i always like to see a 3 year deal for a promising young player. Reason being, 1.they are tied to a low wage for longer. If they make the first team, they are contributing a first team contribution on a youth contract and next summer they are more likely to come chapping the managers door looking for a new deal than one who can move for free in a year 2. If they make it into the first team, you find yourself next summer considering very weak bids as the player only has 12 months to run on his deal and you are worried about losing him for nothing in january Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavman33 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 What did Jamie Mole do like? Starting him in Athens is still the bane of my life and sometimes when I get a quiet moment to myself I need to sit down and convince myself it actually happened Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serge Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Angus Beith and Liam Smith signed new deals until 2016 according to website. Excellent news. They've no doubt removed from the contract the ?3K Debut bonus that ensured that Angus kept the bench warm at the end of last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penicuik jambo Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Liam Smith a good prospect? Don't know anything about him. Iv heard Beith is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrambo Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Excellent news. They've no doubt removed from the contract the ?3K Debut bonus that ensured that Angus kept the bench warm at the end of last season. Nah. Not buying that at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serge Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Nah. Not buying that at all. It's true. There were, and still are, some weird things in a lot of the current contracts. It looks like these deals are just part of the process to normalise them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrambo Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 It's true. There were, and still are, some weird things in a lot of the current contracts. It looks like these deals are just part of the process to normalise them. Why would you give a young lad a ?3k debut bonus though? An appearance bonus yes, but a debut bonus of that amount? Nah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serge Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Why would you give a young lad a ?3k debut bonus though? An appearance bonus yes, but a debut bonus of that amount? Nah. Well, they didn't pay a debut bonus did they? They had him on the bench about 10 times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Well, they didn't pay a debut bonus did they? They had him on the bench about 10 times. Don't think he had anything like that in his first contract. Otherwise surely it would have been paid after his debut against the German team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrambo Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Well, they didn't pay a debut bonus did they? They had him on the bench about 10 times. Ye I realise that..that's not my question at all though. Why would they put it in his contract in the first place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannibal Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Did Jim McLean not dish out ten year deals when he was at Dundee Utd? aye when they were young and was paying them two bob a week all their earnings was in their win bonuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibrahim Tall Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Why would you give a young lad a ?3k debut bonus though? An appearance bonus yes, but a debut bonus of that amount? Nah. A motivator to better and improve himself and make the first team id imagine. The vast majority of youth players never do and ?3k is quite a motivator for a young guy. In the scheme of things it's **** all to a football team not in administration though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 The 5 year deals were awarded after taking advice from basketball experts I seem to recall Anyway, would be good to extend Walker but I can't help but think sevco have already been whispering in his ear.... His 'father in law' is certainly bending his ear to get him to turn down the deal and see if Rangers come in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 His 'father in law' is certainly bending his ear to get him to turn down the deal and see if Rangers come in. How annoying! Hopefully he won't listen to the father in law Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToYouToMe Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 How annoying! Hopefully he won't listen to the father in law Career ender if he does. Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie86 Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 I don't get this work rate and attitude aimed at Jamie. To me he is always looking for the ball, always involved, always looking to hurt teams in the final third. It doesn't always come off but give that type any day to one that is happy to hang about the fringes of a game Absolutely this. Remember the lads have just played in circumstances even the most experienced players don't go through and they are younger than 98% of the people who berate him. He will be a top player if he is given time and encouraged. Next season will be massive in his development and I can't wait to see some of the young lads light up the league with pressure of last season off their minds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jocam2325 Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Absolutely this. Remember the lads have just played in circumstances even the most experienced players don't go through and they are younger than 98% of the people who berate him. He will be a top player if he is given time and encouraged. Next season will be massive in his development and I can't wait to see some of the young lads light up the league with pressure of last season off their minds I think Walker was lazy most times I saw him play last season, that said I am prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt and see if he does it this season. I also don't agree that there was a particular amount of pressure on the players last season. It was clear early doors that we were down. I think there will be plenty pressure this season, to perform against the so called smaller teams, to score goals, play good football, win games and get back up at the first time of asking. Home games in particular, if we don't take the lead early the fans will become impatient. Plenty pressure this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie86 Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 I think Walker was lazy most times I saw him play last season, that said I am prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt and see if he does it this season. I also don't agree that there was a particular amount of pressure on the players last season. It was clear early doors that we were down. I think there will be plenty pressure this season, to perform against the so called smaller teams, to score goals, play good football, win games and get back up at the first time of asking. Home games in particular, if we don't take the lead early the fans will become impatient. Plenty pressure this season. I agree there will be pressure this season but much different from last season where they had the pressure of trying to play good football, win games and wonder if they have a job next week. I don't think he's lazy, not comparing him to messi but people would call messi lazy until he gets the ball then does the damage. Too many people wanting him and the others to run for 90+ plus minutes and still produce. Play to the strengths and let him damage teams rather than having him track back and be too tired to be up front Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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