OTT Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 So was wondering if anybody knew Hearts average attendances reasonably far back (around the 50s) to now. I haven't been able to find anything and Im not totally sure how to use the london hearts page. Cheers (also does anyone know roughly how many jambos are in edinburgh ?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Tate Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 http://www.londonhearts.com/charts/averagel.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts Heritage Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 1945-46 19 19430 1946-47 21 20881 1947-48 19 24378 1948-49 22 28343 1949-50 19 28072 1950-51 19 26321 1951-52 20 27753 1952-53 20 24240 1953-54 18 26492 1954-55 21 26404 1955-56 24 24780 1956-57 21 25975 1957-58 22 24492 1958-59 22 22523 1959-60 22 24674 1960-61 23 22093 1961-62 24 15444 1962-63 22 15336 1963-64 22 14472 1964-65 21 16768 1965-66 25 15423 1966-67 21 10678 1967-68 22 11726 1968-69 20 11147 1969-70 21 11944 1970-71 26 13591 1971-72 24 12520 1972-73 23 9723 1973-74 25 12680 1974-75 24 12768 1975-76 26 12152 1976-77 27 12410 1977-78 23 9801 1978-79 21 10438 1979-80 22 5793 1980-81 22 7357 1981-82 23 5511 1982-83 27 6738 1983-84 23 10485 1984-85 25 10924 1985-86 22 18317 1986-87 27 15223 1987-88 26 16248 1988-89 25 15609 1989-90 22 15838 1990-91 20 13404 1991-92 28 13770 1992-93 29 10717 1993-94 25 10917 1994-95 22 10186 1995-96 22 13142 1996-97 24 12628 1997-98 22 16642 1998-99 22 13966 1999-00 19 14115 2000-01 24 12346 2001-02 21 11974 2002-03 20 11758 2003-04 24 12219 2004-05 26 13030 2005-06 23 18155 2006-07 22 18604 2007-08 21 15566 2008-09 21 14093 2009-10 22 13766 2010-11 21 13416 2011-12 23 12912 2012-13 21 12971 2013-14 5 14024 Total 1540 15398 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgiewave Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 2005-06 is above the capacity at the time (18,008). 2006-07 might be right if including games at Murrayfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgiewave Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 I always had 1985-86 as 16,298. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Figures are a wee bit misleading as before all seating the averages were boosted by huge crowds for OF and derbies, with very large away supports which in the case of the OF could match or even exceed the home crowd. Crowds for run of the mill home games were even in the glory years, often not that much bigger than today, and crowds in the 60s and 70s for such games fell well below today's crowds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts Heritage Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 2005-06 is above the capacity at the time (18,008). 2006-07 might be right if including games at Murrayfield. I always had 1985-86 as 16,298. Apologies was using my 'Home filter' which included games at Hampden where Hearts were drawn as the Home team Revised list Games at Murrayfield included My 'early' crowd figures are sourced from David Ross rather than other published sources. 1945-46 19430 1946-47 20881 1947-48 24378 1948-49 28343 1949-50 28072 1950-51 26321 1951-52 27753 1952-53 24240 1953-54 26492 1954-55 26404 1955-56 24780 1956-57 25975 1957-58 24492 1958-59 22523 1959-60 24674 1960-61 22093 1961-62 15444 1962-63 13624 1963-64 14472 1964-65 16768 1965-66 15423 1966-67 10678 1967-68 11726 1968-69 11147 1969-70 11944 1970-71 13591 1971-72 12520 1972-73 9723 1973-74 12680 1974-75 12768 1975-76 12152 1976-77 12410 1977-78 9801 1978-79 10438 1979-80 5793 1980-81 7357 1981-82 5511 1982-83 6738 1983-84 10485 1984-85 10924 1985-86 16388 1986-87 15223 1987-88 16248 1988-89 15609 1989-90 15838 1990-91 13404 1991-92 13349 1992-93 10717 1993-94 10917 1994-95 10186 1995-96 11971 1996-97 12496 1997-98 15103 1998-99 13966 1999-00 14115 2000-01 12346 2001-02 11974 2002-03 11758 2003-04 12219 2004-05 13030 2005-06 16652 2006-07 18604 2007-08 15566 2008-09 14093 2009-10 13985 2010-11 13416 2011-12 12923 2012-13 12971 2013-14 14024 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts Heritage Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Home League Averages 1945-46 18074 1946-47 19310 1947-48 23624 1948-49 28014 1949-50 27325 1950-51 23917 1951-52 25238 1952-53 22377 1953-54 26248 1954-55 23133 1955-56 23588 1956-57 23882 1957-58 24159 1958-59 21471 1959-60 23059 1960-61 20294 1961-62 13828 1962-63 12778 1963-64 13834 1964-65 16786 1965-66 12110 1966-67 10241 1967-68 11228 1968-69 11546 1969-70 12475 1970-71 11667 1971-72 11196 1972-73 10261 1973-74 11733 1974-75 12225 1975-76 12677 1976-77 11716 1977-78 9863 1978-79 10887 1979-80 5734 1980-81 7759 1981-82 5157 1982-83 5913 1983-84 11914 1984-85 11305 1985-86 16198 1986-87 14499 1987-88 16633 1988-89 15367 1989-90 15694 1990-91 13232 1991-92 13317 1992-93 9829 1993-94 11019 1994-95 10124 1995-96 12078 1996-97 12349 1997-98 15337 1998-99 14183 1999-00 14246 2000-01 12774 2001-02 12080 2002-03 12037 2003-04 11962 2004-05 12272 2005-06 16762 2006-07 16889 2007-08 15933 2008-09 14398 2009-10 14497 2010-11 14186 2011-12 13386 2012-13 13163 2013-14 15434 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Bubblebeard Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Home League Averages 1945-46 18074 1946-47 19310 1947-48 23624 1948-49 28014 1949-50 27325 1950-51 23917 1951-52 25238 1952-53 22377 1953-54 26248 1954-55 23133 1955-56 23588 1956-57 23882 1957-58 24159 1958-59 21471 1959-60 23059 1960-61 20294 1961-62 13828 1962-63 12778 1963-64 13834 1964-65 16786 1965-66 12110 1966-67 10241 1967-68 11228 1968-69 11546 1969-70 12475 1970-71 11667 1971-72 11196 1972-73 10261 1973-74 11733 1974-75 12225 1975-76 12677 1976-77 11716 1977-78 9863 1978-79 10887 1979-80 5734 1980-81 7759 1981-82 5157 1982-83 5913 1983-84 11914 1984-85 11305 1985-86 16198 1986-87 14499 1987-88 16633 1988-89 15367 1989-90 15694 1990-91 13232 1991-92 13317 1992-93 9829 1993-94 11019 1994-95 10124 1995-96 12078 1996-97 12349 1997-98 15337 1998-99 14183 1999-00 14246 2000-01 12774 2001-02 12080 2002-03 12037 2003-04 11962 2004-05 12272 2005-06 16762 2006-07 16889 2007-08 15933 2008-09 14398 2009-10 14497 2010-11 14186 2011-12 13386 2012-13 13163 2013-14 15434 06-07 looks a bit suspect, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts Heritage Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 06-07 looks a bit suspect, no? Yes! That was the season where some of the crowds reported to the SPL were 'ticket sales' rather than 'bums on seats' Hopefully at some point we will be able to report the correct figures. As an aside Celtic have yet to publish a figure for their loss to Morton from last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgiewave Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 If you're able to easily copy and paste the figures from David Ross's book from the 1920s and 1930s, 12 August 1893, it is an interesting read. I may as well recommend David Ross's book ROAR of the Crowd", which I think is a must-read for anybody interested in attendances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgiewave Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 06-07 looks a bit suspect, no? There was a huge number of season tickets sold that summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Questy Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 As it Stands This Season Thus Far... 1 Celtic 136,085 45,361 2 Heart of Midlothian 61,737 15,434 3 Aberdeen 40,746 13,582 4 Hibernian 37,394 9,348 5 Dundee United 30,050 7,512 6 Partick Thistle 24,865 6,216 7 Motherwell 20,385 5,096 8 St Mirren 14,238 4,746 9 Kilmarnock 16,569 4,142 10 St Johnstone 16,350 4,087 11 Inverness Caledonian Thistle 11,326 3,775 12 Ross County 13,537 3,384 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Questy Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 07/08.... 16,378 (16 Games) 08/09.... 14,304 (17 Games) 09/10.... 14,690 (16 Games) 10/11.... 14,105 (17 Games) 11/12.... 13,605 (16 Games) 12/13.... 12,811 (17 Games) Useful Site for Stats... http://www.worldfootball.net/attendance/sco-premier-league-2012-2013/1/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 The early 80's attendances are shocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 The early 80's attendances are shocking. So were most of the performances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 So were most of the performances. a few years before my time but my old mans told me all about it! Still pretty surprised to see average attendances of 5k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts Heritage Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 If you're able to easily copy and paste the figures from David Ross's book from the 1920s and 1930s, 12 August 1893, it is an interesting read. I may as well recommend David Ross's book ROAR of the Crowd", which I think is a must-read for anybody interested in attendances. Thanks to David I have all those attendances. Great book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts Heritage Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 07/08.... 16,378 (16 Games) 08/09.... 14,304 (17 Games) 09/10.... 14,690 (16 Games) 10/11.... 14,105 (17 Games) 11/12.... 13,605 (16 Games) 12/13.... 12,811 (17 Games) Useful Site for Stats... http://www.worldfoot...ue-2012-2013/1/ Unfortunately NOT always correct. Nearly all football sites take their figures from a single source (the PA) which occasionally publishes a wrong figure or dosen't publish one, which is subsequentlly NEVER updated. Then it is replicated and published everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts Heritage Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Roar of the crowd had us as the only non-OF team to have the highest average attendance in Scotland over a season (in the 30s I think) and Hibs to be the only team outwith the OF to have an average attendance of over 30k over a season. 3 times in the 1920s, once in the 1930s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buba Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Roar of the crowd had us as the only non-OF team to have the highest average attendance in Scotland over a season (in the 30s I think) and Hibs to be the only team outwith the OF to have an average attendance of over 30k over a season. For some reason I have it in my mind that dundee done it one season as well? I could be wrong though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts Heritage Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 For some reason I have it in my mind that dundee done it one season as well? I could be wrong though IIRC Dundee did it for home league crowds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StAndrewsHMFC Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Roar of the crowd had us as the only non-OF team to have the highest average attendance in Scotland over a season (in the 30s I think) and Hibs to be the only team outwith the OF to have an average attendance of over 30k over a season. Have Dundee not had the highest average attendance? Think pre-WW1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StAndrewsHMFC Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Have Dundee not had the highest average attendance? Think pre-WW1 Doh! didn't see 2 guys had got there before me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcjambo Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Seems 1961 was very significant. What was the reason for the collapse in support the sale of Alex Young or a poor performance in the league? I se we finished 7th in the next season after being champions and were 6th the year after. Home League Averages 1945-46 18074 1946-47 19310 1947-48 23624 1948-49 28014 1949-50 27325 1950-51 23917 1951-52 25238 1952-53 22377 1953-54 26248 1954-55 23133 1955-56 23588 1956-57 23882 1957-58 24159 1958-59 21471 1959-60 23059 1960-61 20294 1961-62 13828 1962-63 12778 1963-64 13834 1964-65 16786 1965-66 12110 1966-67 10241 1967-68 11228 1968-69 11546 1969-70 12475 1970-71 11667 1971-72 11196 1972-73 10261 1973-74 11733 1974-75 12225 1975-76 12677 1976-77 11716 1977-78 9863 1978-79 10887 1979-80 5734 1980-81 7759 1981-82 5157 1982-83 5913 1983-84 11914 1984-85 11305 1985-86 16198 1986-87 14499 1987-88 16633 1988-89 15367 1989-90 15694 1990-91 13232 1991-92 13317 1992-93 9829 1993-94 11019 1994-95 10124 1995-96 12078 1996-97 12349 1997-98 15337 1998-99 14183 1999-00 14246 2000-01 12774 2001-02 12080 2002-03 12037 2003-04 11962 2004-05 12272 2005-06 16762 2006-07 16889 2007-08 15933 2008-09 14398 2009-10 14497 2010-11 14186 2011-12 13386 2012-13 13163 2013-14 15434 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigis semiauskas Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 surprised how low the championship winning seasons were in 58 and 60,thought we had crowds of 30 -40 thousand back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcjambo Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 I think we did for the glamour games surprised how low the championship winning seasons were in 58 and 60,thought we had crowds of 30 -40 thousand back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts Heritage Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Seems 1961 was very significant. What was the reason for the collapse in support the sale of Alex Young or a poor performance in the league? I se we finished 7th in the next season after being champions and were 6th the year after. More Social rather than football related They declined all round because of the phasing out of Saturday morning working Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgie_Rules Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 What sparked the revival from 5000s in 1981 and 1982 to in the 11,000s the 2 seasons after? Was it the arrival of Mercer? (Showing my age here) Interestingly our most successful seasons in recent time show a significant increase in averages which shows the potential the club has when the fans turn up/a decent side is on the park Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgiewave Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 What sparked the revival from 5000s in 1981 and 1982 to in the 11,000s the 2 seasons after? Was it the arrival of Mercer? (Showing my age here) Interestingly our most successful seasons in recent time show a significant increase in averages which shows the potential the club has when the fans turn up/a decent side is on the park Promoted in season 1982-83. Did well, finished 5th and qualified for Europe in 1983-84. 7th in 1984-85. The seasons in the first division were 1977-78, 1979-80, 1981-82 and 1982-83. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 My first seasons of attending games were years that mostly averaged under 8k. I must have been keen in those days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strachsuit Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 I make this year's final average figure to be 18,390. Highest since 06/07, which also included Murrayfield games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 On Monday, September 30, 2013 at 20:05, Longshanks said: The early 80's attendances are shocking. Aye. Some think we are suffering now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Brown Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 On 9/30/2013 at 19:25, 12august1893 said: Yes! That was the season where some of the crowds reported to the SPL were 'ticket sales' rather than 'bums on seats' Hopefully at some point we will be able to report the correct figures. As an aside Celtic have yet to publish a figure for their loss to Morton from last week. 55 minutes ago, Strachsuit said: I make this year's final average figure to be 18,390. Highest since 06/07, which also included Murrayfield games. the bums on seats vs Seats Sold argument. This year's will be distorted. Some crowds wew a lot less than reported Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deevers Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 On 30 September 2013 at 20:12, Longshanks said: a few years before my time but my old mans told me all about it! Still pretty surprised to see average attendances of 5k If I remember correctly during that awful period we had a midweek game where under two thousand were in attendance. Now that really was a hard time to follow Hearts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big D Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 On 9/30/2013 at 22:34, 12august1893 said: More Social rather than football related They declined all round because of the phasing out of Saturday morning working Roar of the crowd is a tremendous book. David also suggests road and rail improvements facilitated the furth of Glasgow support attending OF matches to the detriment of their local teams. Also suggests that people not working on a Sat. and going straight to the game was replaced by Sat morning shopping then home, and ach, just switch on the telly. Rangers crowds held up and Celtic's increased by about 25%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvery_Moon Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 I always remember this game in 1993. Crowds were very low that season but particularly bad on this night in the pouring rain. http://www.londonhearts.com/scores/games/199301201.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strachsuit Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Tommy Brown said: the bums on seats vs Seats Sold argument. This year's will be distorted. Some crowds wew a lot less than reported Indeed. However the biggest distortion this year will come from the Murrayfield games. Next season I'd imagine we'll drop down below 18,000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboT Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 So after a pretty poor season our average attendance is still above Hibs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3fingersreid Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 1979 to 1983 they were horrendous times for us ,I never want any Hearts fan to experience that again and I’m surprised the attendances were actually that high ? wouldnt mind hibs going through that shit again though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Hans Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 4 hours ago, Strachsuit said: Indeed. However the biggest distortion this year will come from the Murrayfield games. Next season I'd imagine we'll drop down below 18,000. I make this season's Tynecastle average to be 17,125. Last season's average was 16,315 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Hans Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Where we ranked in Europe last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Hans Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Where we could potentially rank in Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Hans Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Source- http://www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/attn.htm Great site for attendance/stats geeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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