Tambojambo Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 I'm not sure where I'm coming from with this, but there have been so many threads about Rudi in recent months, the vast majority pleading for his return to his adopted home, is it not time that there was some concerted effort to campaign for such a return? I know that Vlad is a hard man to get to, persuade, or influence, but it seems to me that the time for simply posting comments is past and we need to do more to let our owner know how we feel about this legend, his aura on our club and what he could bring to our fortunes, now and in the future. We all know that Rudi's greatest wish is to return to Heart of Midlothian, to play a part in our destiny and to take a role in our longer term future. Is there no way the Hearts support could petition Mr Romanov with such an aspiration, not by way of a " Poll ", but by a concerted campaign aimed directly at him? I'm useless at anything like this, but if there was anyone out there who felt willing and able to co-ordinate such a campaign, I would like to think that the support would be overwhelming and that we would be able to " move on " from just the talk we have seen on this Board since that great day in May 2012. Today's episode was simply a manifestation of where this man should be in his current and future career and where he feels he belongs. Let's make it happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewYorkJambo Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 I'm not sure where I'm coming from with this, but there have been so many threads about Rudi in recent months, the vast majority pleading for his return to his adopted home, is it not time that there was some concerted effort to campaign for such a return? I know that Vlad is a hard man to get to, persuade, or influence, but it seems to me that the time for simply posting comments is past and we need to do more to let our owner know how we feel about this legend, his aura on our club and what he could bring to our fortunes, now and in the future. We all know that Rudi's greatest wish is to return to Heart of Midlothian, to play a part in our destiny and to take a role in our longer term future. Is there no way the Hearts support could petition Mr Romanov with such an aspiration, not by way of a " Poll ", but by a concerted campaign aimed directly at him? I'm useless at anything like this, but if there was anyone out there who felt willing and able to co-ordinate such a campaign, I would like to think that the support would be overwhelming and that we would be able to " move on " from just the talk we have seen on this Board since that great day in May 2012. Today's episode was simply a manifestation of where this man should be in his current and future career and where he feels he belongs. Let's make it happen. We have a signing ban in place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_jambo Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Any fundraising must go on the running costs of the club and not into a rudi fund. That's why legends like Robbo and Rudi understand the club always comes first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bilel Mohsni Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Signing embargo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portobellojambo1 Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 At this moment in time we cannot sign anyone. And if the embargo is lifted I would like to hope, given our present financial position, that before we sign anyone else we first of all release players to make funds available, not simply sign additional players we cannot afford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tambojambo Posted December 24, 2012 Author Share Posted December 24, 2012 Signing embargo... Don't you think I know about the vindictive " signing embargo "! This isn't just about the short term, it's about someone who could do so much to vitalise our club in the longer-term, not just in a playing capacity, but in the broader sense of involvement with the club. I appreciate the problems which may be encountered in such a " campaign ", but continuing to simply " talk " about how valuable Rudi would be to our club will produce nothing and I know that, in the not too distant future, he will be lost to Scottish football altogether. He's not going to be staying with the Arabs and that's a fact. In all the years I've been on this Board, I have never started a topic. I have only done so on this occasion, because I passionately believe in the rewards Rudi could and would bring to our club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bilel Mohsni Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Don't you think I know about the vindictive " signing embargo "! This isn't just about the short term, it's about someone who could do so much to vitalise our club in the longer-term, not just in a playing capacity, but in the broader sense of involvement with the club. I appreciate the problems which may be encountered in such a " campaign ", but continuing to simply " talk " about how valuable Rudi would be to our club will produce nothing and I know that, in the not too distant future, he will be lost to Scottish football altogether. He's not going to be staying with the Arabs and that's a fact. In all the years I've been on this Board, I have never started a topic. I have only done so on this occasion, because I passionately believe in the rewards Rudi could and would bring to our club. I'd like to see him back too. It wasn't the sentiment of what you were saying that I was referring too... It's the fact that it is impossible while we have the ban in place. I'm confused now... What is the plan you are advocating, as I must be clearly missing the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tambojambo Posted December 24, 2012 Author Share Posted December 24, 2012 I'd like to see him back too. It wasn't the sentiment of what you were saying that I was referring too... It's the fact that it is impossible while we have the ban in place. I'm confused now... What is the plan you are advocating, as I must be clearly missing the point. I know Shaun and I wasn't meaning to get at you. I don't know what the " plan " would be, all I know is, there is so much desire out there to bring Rudi back into the fold, but at this moment in time, all we do is constantly talk about it. If someone was able to co-ordinate all this intense feeling for Rudi, into some pro-active campaign, maybe, just maybe, we could bring about the desired result. As I said in my original post, sadly, I have no skills in such a process. I accept that I may be simply expressing my frustrations, probably shared by many others! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bilel Mohsni Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 I know Shaun and I wasn't meaning to get at you. I don't know what the " plan " would be, all I know is, there is so much desire out there to bring Rudi back into the fold, but at this moment in time, all we do is constantly talk about it. If someone was able to co-ordinate all this intense feeling for Rudi, into some pro-active campaign, maybe, just maybe, we could bring about the desired result. As I said in my original post, sadly, I have no skills in such a process. I accept that I may be simply expressing my frustrations, probably shared by many others! I share your frustration Tambo... I would love him back. I suppose it all depends on the legal advice we get about the embargo. Frustrating, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_jambo Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 We are all the same Tambo, but I don't think people have fully grasped that we may have been weeks from extinction. Let's not make any rash financial decisions unless we can definitely afford it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upgotheheads Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Don't think he had a great game yesterday, also thought he looked a bit heavier than when he played for us, maybe we've seen the best of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moogsy Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 We should not be signing anyone while we are unable to pay in full the players we have at the moment. Sad but true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian Lambretta Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 As much ad iove the Great man i would rather we stuck by MCHattie, Holt, Walker, Paterson, Novikovas and Smith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf's Mate Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Taking him on in any other capacity as a player would be ludicrous! We don't know what's happening with the embargo simple as that therefore looking for loopholes until its sorted is nonsensical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GhostHunter Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 I know Shaun and I wasn't meaning to get at you. I don't know what the " plan " would be, all I know is, there is so much desire out there to bring Rudi back into the fold, but at this moment in time, all we do is constantly talk about it. If someone was able to co-ordinate all this intense feeling for Rudi, into some pro-active campaign, maybe, just maybe, we could bring about the desired result. As I said in my original post, sadly, I have no skills in such a process. I accept that I may be simply expressing my frustrations, probably shared by many others! You're at it, aren't you ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jocam2325 Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 I know it'll not be a popular view, and I know that he was an outstanding player for us both times around, but I think at 33 and with the limited amount of football he has played in the last 6 months, and given that I think his rear end has doubled in size since the cup final, I think I'd pass on him returning. I'd rather we set our sights on a young up and coming player at our or someone else's club. Tin Hat time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tynecastle Valhalla Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 I know it'll not be a popular view, and I know that he was an outstanding player for us both times around, but I think at 33 and with the limited amount of football he has played in the last 6 months, and given that I think his rear end has doubled in size since the cup final, I think I'd pass on him returning. I'd rather we set our sights on a young up and coming player at our or someone else's club. Tin Hat time. he would instantly be our best player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
argyjambo Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Guys, signing ban aside, given his anonymity in the game yesterday I dont see a place for rudi again at tynecastle. Maybe once he's qualified as a coach sometime in the future, he could return in that capacity. Under our new financial regime, the money he'd want will simply not be on the table, not for him at his age, not for anyone. So lets just remember the good times, his cup final goals, his ability to score against hibs, and mostly his tremendous season in 2005-2006. Thanks for the memories Rudi....good-bye & good Luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambogjh Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Guys, signing ban aside, given his anonymity in the game yesterday I dont see a place for rudi again at tynecastle. Maybe once he's qualified as a coach sometime in the future, he could return in that capacity. Under our new financial regime, the money he'd want will simply not be on the table, not for him at his age, not for anyone. So lets just remember the good times, his cup final goals, his ability to score against hibs, and mostly his tremendous season in 2005-2006. Thanks for the memories Rudi....good-bye & good Luck! Well that's my Christmas ruined then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_jambo Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Guys, signing ban aside, given his anonymity in the game yesterday I dont see a place for rudi again at tynecastle. Maybe once he's qualified as a coach sometime in the future, he could return in that capacity. Under our new financial regime, the money he'd want will simply not be on the table, not for him at his age, not for anyone. So lets just remember the good times, his cup final goals, his ability to score against hibs, and mostly his tremendous season in 2005-2006. Thanks for the memories Rudi....good-bye & good Luck! Short memory from 7 months ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 As much ad iove the Great man i would rather we stuck by MCHattie, Holt, Walker, Paterson, Novikovas and Smith Novikovas aint sticking with us.Signed a pre contract with Pozan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bilel Mohsni Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Novikovas aint sticking with us.Signed a pre contract with Pozan Didn't think that had been confirmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Didn't think that had been confirmed. I just seen the article on here so maybe not.I still think he will be gone.Its scarey to think that it is not just our experienced players that could leave but so many promising youngsters as well.D McGowan can leave and i am sure Holt and Walker can as well,thats 3 players thst could form our midfield for years and potentially bring in good money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bilel Mohsni Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 I just seen the article on here so maybe not.I still think he will be gone.Its scarey to think that it is not just our experienced players that could leave but so many promising youngsters as well.D McGowan can leave and i am sure Holt and Walker can as well,thats 3 players thst could form our midfield for years and potentially bring in good money. Before I heard about interest from them, I was sure he would be amongst the few most likely to attract interest. Unfortunately the only players anyone will be interested in will be the ones we don't want to lose... Novikovas and the McGowans included in that list. I hate the thought of losing them so early but have resigned myself to the worst happening in order to save the club. Irony is, everyone was going batshit the last time we tied down our best youngsters on long deals, now they are going mad because they are all out of contract. It's a shite position we are in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggieb Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Any fundraising must go on the running costs of the club and not into a rudi fund. That's why legends like Robbo and Rudi understand the club always comes first. Robbo knows only too well , back in the day , we couldnt afford him either and he was subsidised by A FAN, never did much harm then, embargo s aside , whats the problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAlim Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Rudi would be our best attacker by miles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_jambo Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Robbo knows only too well , back in the day , we couldnt afford him either and he was subsidised by A FAN, never did much harm then, embargo s aside , whats the problem? Some nonsense chat you are giving it, maggieb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTweedy Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 I'm not sure where I'm coming from with this, but there have been so many threads about Rudi in recent months, the vast majority pleading for his return to his adopted home, is it not time that there was some concerted effort to campaign for such a return? I know that Vlad is a hard man to get to, persuade, or influence, but it seems to me that the time for simply posting comments is past and we need to do more to let our owner know how we feel about this legend, his aura on our club and what he could bring to our fortunes, now and in the future. We all know that Rudi's greatest wish is to return to Heart of Midlothian, to play a part in our destiny and to take a role in our longer term future. Is there no way the Hearts support could petition Mr Romanov with such an aspiration, not by way of a " Poll ", but by a concerted campaign aimed directly at him? I'm useless at anything like this, but if there was anyone out there who felt willing and able to co-ordinate such a campaign, I would like to think that the support would be overwhelming and that we would be able to " move on " from just the talk we have seen on this Board since that great day in May 2012. Today's episode was simply a manifestation of where this man should be in his current and future career and where he feels he belongs. Let's make it happen. I must have just imagined all the stuff about financial problems, inability to pay wages, HMRC winding up orders, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTweedy Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 We should not be signing anyone while we are unable to pay in full the players we have at the moment. Sad but true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc_steve Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Some nonsense chat you are giving it, maggieb. she's right though ... robbo was subsidised by a fan ... at least for a while Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HNK Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 I know it'll not be a popular view, and I know that he was an outstanding player for us both times around, but I think at 33 and with the limited amount of football he has played in the last 6 months, and given that I think his rear end has doubled in size since the cup final, I think I'd pass on him returning. I'd rather we set our sights on a young up and coming player at our or someone else's club. Tin Hat time. Could not agree more, lets just drop these threads, he wont be back end off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 she's right though ... robbo was subsidised by a fan ... at least for a while No he wasn't. A local greengrocer donated ?50,000 to his transfer back from Newcastle. His wages etc were all covered by Hearts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo Forever Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 I think we should move on. Yes he's a legend but we have had the best of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggieb Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Some nonsense chat you are giving it, maggieb. "nonsense" as you put it , was a fact at the time, monies being paid by a fan to get Robbo back here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc22 Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 We should not be signing anyone while we are unable to pay in full the players we have at the moment. Sad but true. A few players leaving should free up the wage bill a wee bit though. Completely agree with you though we shouldn't take on any more players now. But this is Rudi!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munch Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 until the players bonuses and appearance money is paid we wont be signing anyone and the fact that they have not been paid to date gives the impession the sums involved are considerable in which case we dont have the money to pay them set aside in our current budget. So the embargo stays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Don't you think I know about the vindictive " signing embargo "! This isn't just about the short term, it's about someone who could do so much to vitalise our club in the longer-term, not just in a playing capacity, but in the broader sense of involvement with the club. I appreciate the problems which may be encountered in such a " campaign ", but continuing to simply " talk " about how valuable Rudi would be to our club will produce nothing and I know that, in the not too distant future, he will be lost to Scottish football altogether. He's not going to be staying with the Arabs and that's a fact. In all the years I've been on this Board, I have never started a topic. I have only done so on this occasion, because I passionately believe in the rewards Rudi could and would bring to our club. The embargo is only vindictive if there are other clubs with payments outstanding to players that the SPL know about. And if any club has payments outstanding that they aren't telling the SPL about then they should be in serious trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 There's a lot of merit on keeping good servants and legends associated with the club in some way, I would have hoped we could do a bit more to have people like Rudi, Robbo, mr jim about the club in some capacity. It might be to attract sponsors or help out in scouting or coaching. Unfortunately these people have also to make a living and at the moment I don't suppose we're in a very good position to offer money to them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEHEART1874 Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Skacel had a poor last game for united wait what a supprise ! oh yes he was playing against the club he really wants to play for with the fans all chanting his name in 51 mins - he may be past his best aye but potential goalwise far better than taoul Sutton Patterson all together some people on here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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