winningways Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Story on sky news ! What do people think of this ? Neet Idea: Firms To Be Paid To Wake Up Teens Last Updated 04:39 20/07/2012 Private companies will be paid to wake up teenagers in a drive to get more young people back to college or into work. Nick Clegg announced the initiative as part of his ?126m Youth Contract to tackle the record number of 16 and 17-year-olds not in education, employment or training - so called Neets. The Deputy Prime Minister has revealed that charities and businesses will be paid by results and that it is hoped up to 55,000 young people will return to college or find jobs. Organisations can receive up to ?2,200 for every child helped, but the full amount will only be paid if a young person is still in full-time education, training or work six months later. Mr Clegg said: "Young people who have fallen through the net need tailored support to get back on track. "We can't treat them like round pegs being forced into square holes - if you're young and have got to the point where you feel on the scrap heap, you need extra help to succeed in life. "Disengaged young people often have complex problems that act as a barrier to getting them learning again, which the Government alone can't deal with. But very often local charities and businesses know what's going to help them." One scheme in the North East, run by Pertemps People Development Group, will see wake-up calls offered "to help young people develop a routine". Another, in Yorkshire, will see ex-soldiers deliver motivational sessions to disengaged youngsters through the Heroes to Inspire campaign. Mr Clegg said organisations chosen to provide help should "be as creative and innovative as they can, to do whatever it takes, to get the young people who need it most back on their feet". He added: "In exchange for this freedom, all we ask is that they get results. "It's a win-win for the Government, young people and the organisations involved." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brow Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Whilst I agree with the main article about youth unemployment, the 'wake up' scheme is completely stupid. We're treating that generation like absolute ******* idiots then we're surprised when, guess what, they turn out to be absolute ******* idiots. Actually having to get people out of bed so they can go find a job? If they cant be arsed getting up then just leave them there. Thats what an alarm clock is for FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan Rom?n Riquelme Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 I got out of bed at 5pm yesterday. I'm 21. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooperstar Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Whilst I agree with the main article about youth unemployment, the 'wake up' scheme is completely stupid. We're treating that generation like absolute ******* idiots then we're surprised when, guess what, they turn out to be absolute ******* idiots. Actually having to get people out of bed so they can go find a job? If they cant be arsed getting up then just leave them there. Thats what an alarm clock is for FFS. I think you might be taking the 'wake up' part a bit too literally. I don't think they're planning on going knocking doors in the morning and dragging folk out of their beds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SE16 3LN Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 The wake up campaign should be about getting the rich and the bankers to wake up to the fact that they've caused this terrible recession and instead of blaming the under twenty fives we should get out there and work hard to provide better opportunities for them in the first place. Instead they got a five per cent tax cut. Incredible really. Anyway its hard getting out of bed when you spend the day smoking skunk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The People's Chimp Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 I think you might be taking the 'wake up' part a bit too literally. I don't think they're planning on going knocking doors in the morning and dragging folk out of their beds. A fleet of ex soldiers in milk floats going door to door with a bell and dragging lazy teens out of bed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yvonnejambo Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 As a youth worker I agree some young people need extra support to get motivated and get a job. What frustrates me is the lack of job opportunities and a lot of schemes are for only a couple of months and offer no job at end of them. So once you get them job ready there is nothing for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hansel Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 They should introduce national service IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yvonnejambo Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Or decent apprenticeships Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reaths17 Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 when all you read about is incompitence/greed being rewarded and your not in the game i would guess the motivation is a bit thin on the ground. when those in power and responsible for leadership are found to be fiddling their expenses and the banking powerhouse fu**ing up the world economy through their uselessness. in edinburgh we've had holyrood & tram fiascos, now the huns disaster all caused by greed,stupidity and downright cheating all mainstream news. all the while, the people on the inside of these situations are still making wads of dosh, i'd imagine for youngsters unable to get into this, think "whats the point" why the **** should i knock my ^^^^ in for washers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yvonnejambo Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 It's also very patronising as the majority of young people do want get into a career, just don't get the chance. Plenty of older people who could do with a kick up the ass as lived off benefits most their life and have just got lazyitis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Das Root Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Young people who have no jobs for more than 6mths should be forced to provide their organs to the active workforce as spare parts. With enough "donations" they could technically be classed as employed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Comedian Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 It's also very patronising as the majority of young people do want get into a career, just don't get the chance. Plenty of older people who could do with a kick up the ass as lived off benefits most their life and have just got lazyitis. Don't get the chance? Too many are waiting on that chance chapping their door while they sit on their arse. The ones with some gumption will find something, they always do. The patronising element is typical politician speak of 'these kids often have complex problems' but the vast majority are fine to find work or enter further education. There is a generation of scrounger parent's breeding waster kids who've watched their old man sit on his hole all his life and don't see the point in graft. Schemes like this are a waste of money IMO and remove responsibility from parent's who are the real problem. This reminds me of those Labour breakfast clubs which removed the responsibilty from dickhead parents who should know better and look after their kids right. Must we really spend 126m telling dumb dumb kid's they should be doing something with their life? Seriously, **** me. Spend it on education and we might not get into this mess in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Canada Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 There was a programme on TV recently with Nick and Margaret from The Apprentice. They had people past retirement age going back into work and then they pitted them against young people who were apparently keen to get back into work. One young guy went for half a day - turned up late, claimed he ate a fry-up for lunch and was sick, so he just went home without telling anyone. There were at least 2 others who didn't show up on time without calling their employer. Basically, the older people put them to shame. I know it was just a few in this programme, but it didn't paint young people looking for work in a very good light. At the end of the programme, only one of the young people got offered a job by the employer they'd worked for, but more of the older ones got offered employment. They could bring back national service, but the tories are cutting army jobs! If there are no jobs around people should start their own business - I did it five years ago because nobody would give me the chance to do the job I really wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Morgan Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 If some stranger tried to wake me up they would be getting a smack in the face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hansel Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Work makes you free, youngsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 A stupid scene and a waste of money. If someone can not be bothered getting a job or trying to get one then they will not. There are jobs put there still and you can still look and make speculative applications. The climate has changed but when I left school in 94 and then got my exam results, I had a job offer within days. There is too much sponging in this country and people expect things for nothing and throw their toys out the pram when they do not get their way. The cause is not helped by Labour and Socialists who back this attitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Payton Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 A stupid scene and a waste of money. If someone can not be bothered getting a job or trying to get one then they will not. There are jobs put there still and you can still look and make speculative applications. The climate has changed but when I left school in 94 and then got my exam results, I had a job offer within days. There is too much sponging in this country and people expect things for nothing and throw their toys out the pram when they do not get their way. The cause is not helped by Labour and Socialists who back this attitude. "Organisations can receive up to ?2,200 for every child helped, but the full amount will only be paid if a young person is still in full-time education, training or work six months later." I think this is the key sentence. While the effectiveness of a "wake-up" scheme might be doubtful (though I am sure there are some "NEETs" who's biggest barrier to doing something productive with their day is getting up early enough. I'm 30, progressed enough in life to be earning a decent salary and I still have that problem some weekend days!) I don't think this is a waste of money at all. Surely all the risk is taken by the private enterprise, who will have (you assume) done all the research and study necessary to believe their approach is going to work. Either way, the risk is with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Comedian Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 "Organisations can receive up to ?2,200 for every child helped, but the full amount will only be paid if a young person is still in full-time education, training or work six months later." I think this is the key sentence. While the effectiveness of a "wake-up" scheme might be doubtful (though I am sure there are some "NEETs" who's biggest barrier to doing something productive with their day is getting up early enough. I'm 30, progressed enough in life to be earning a decent salary and I still have that problem some weekend days!) I don't think this is a waste of money at all. Surely all the risk is taken by the private enterprise, who will have (you assume) done all the research and study necessary to believe their approach is going to work. Either way, the risk is with them. I honestly don't think we need to spend over two grand a pop telling kid's what they should have learned in secondary school. One grand for telling them they need to do something with their life and another telling them to stick with it. It is also rife for abuse too, companies can collect the full fee for a student who remains 6 months later on their course. What if it's 9 months long and they leave on the 7th month? Millions could be spent and there would be no tangible gain. Looking at the performance of A4e, I'd rather private enterprise kept out of it. Fewer than 4 in every 100 jobseekers who find work through them are still there after 13 week's. The bill for such stunning progress is a cool 45 million. If we have 126m to play with I'd invest it into training for young people and the jobless. That could pay the wages for loads of apprentices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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