Hansel Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Let's think of why not one of these clubs have stated their intentions. Are they being bribed? Are they too close to the front line geographically, and therefor too frightened to get unwanted attention from disgruntled knuckle draggers? Are they sympathetic to the plight of Rangers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Currahee! Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Let's think of why not one of these clubs have stated their intentions. Are they being bribed? Are they too close to the front line geographically, and therefor too frightened to get unwanted attention from disgruntled knuckle draggers? Are they sympathetic to the plight of Rangers? All of the above? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naecups1902 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Weejie basturts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 in the scenario of a close call regarding the vote... the notion of the odd 'sweetener' isn't as far fetched as some might think. who would stake their house on the belief that it isn't possible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McClure Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Celtic are bricking it, and all the other western diddies will wait for celtic to move Delighted the east led this, especially Hearts and Mr Romanov Hopefully some insight into change of power away from glasgow and the (now redundant) old firm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Half of theor boards are made up of Rangers fans. Sent from my GT-N7000 using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikoliunas Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 think they may gain fans for next season if they keep their mouths shut, prob right too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hansel Posted June 25, 2012 Author Share Posted June 25, 2012 in the scenario of a close call regarding the vote... the notion of the odd 'sweetener' isn't as far fetched as some might think. who would stake their house on the belief that it isn't possible? I certainly wouldn't, Larry. You just wonder what the point is in some of these clubs even existing, if they constantly let the oldfirm control them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hansel Posted June 25, 2012 Author Share Posted June 25, 2012 think they may gain fans for next season if they keep their mouths shut, prob right too. Good point. Maybe that's their play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 I certainly wouldn't, Larry. You just wonder what the point is in some of these clubs even existing, if they constantly let the oldfirm control them. indeed. we can always hold out for the hope that some of these clubs will be hot on rangers heels in the insolvency stakes. the year of our lord, 2012 has been rather kind to us already. it's only half way through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikoliunas Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Good point. Maybe that's their play. Prety sure it is. When Rangers go down and Boab, Senga and the Weans from Paisley dont renew their ST's they may go to a few St Mirren games next term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Prety sure it is. When Rangers go down and Boab, Senga and the Weans from Paisley dont renew their ST's they may go to a few St Mirren games next term. Oi,leave me oot this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Boy Named Crow Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 A mate of mine from school is a Celtic fan (I know I know), and in the main he is a reasonable bloke, but when it comes to football he spouts the most pish imaginable. One of his favourites is the "There's no such thing as the Old Firm" line, where he tries to argue hat Celtic are completely seperate from and against Rangers. Well I think the last week or so has safely put that one to bed - they'd be as well just to merge the two and call it Glasgow United. Two cheeks of the same symbiotic arse! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Bapswent Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Let's think of why not one of these clubs have stated their intentions. Are they being bribed? Are they too close to the front line geographically, and therefor too frightened to get unwanted attention from disgruntled knuckle draggers? Are they sympathetic to the plight of Rangers? None of the above. They don't have to say anything - so why should they. Stop looking for conspiracies that aren't there for something to get unhappy about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crookie Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 No surprise here, though saw Shiels on STV news saying that Kilmarnmock would suffer more than anyone else from Rangers not being in the SPL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hansel Posted June 25, 2012 Author Share Posted June 25, 2012 Prety sure it is. When Rangers go down and Boab, Senga and the Weans from Paisley dont renew their ST's they may go to a few St Mirren games next term. Although, St Mirren are meant to be Tim sympathisers (I think). Kilmarnock are supposed to be voting no, so if they were trying to currie favour with displaced knuckle draggers, then it's not going to go down well with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 The Dr above is right.They won't have to state their intentions before the meeting but everyone and their dug will know who voted what when they do vote on July 4th. Safest bet,imo,would be 11 no votes.No scapegoats,job's a good 'un! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hansel Posted June 25, 2012 Author Share Posted June 25, 2012 None of the above. They don't have to say anything - so why should they. Stop looking for conspiracies that aren't there for something to get unhappy about. Couldn't be happier baps. They all laughed when Vlad was talking about west coast mafia and media monkeys. Not looking so daft now though, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Bapswent Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Couldn't be happier baps. They all laughed when Vlad was talking about west coast mafia and media monkeys. Not looking so daft now though, eh? Its bloody marvellous to see him vindicated, especially at the expense of one of their own to such a degree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmaroon Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 in the scenario of a close call regarding the vote... the notion of the odd 'sweetener' isn't as far fetched as some might think. who would stake their house on the belief that it isn't possible? Time for an Alan Shearer - But! But! But! Are you trying to say there's a whiff of corruption swirling around among these clubs/OF? Shirley not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 is it allowed now to talk about vlad being vindicated? are we allowed to say that he was right all along? thought that was not allowed to be honest and that the things he got right were things we already knew anyway. oh well. :'> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hansel Posted June 25, 2012 Author Share Posted June 25, 2012 Its bloody marvellous to see him vindicated, especially at the expense of one of their own to such a degree. Are you renewing your season ticket for the new season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewart MacD Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Given the number of offences (allegedly haha) committed over the years by the late RFC, a few brown envelopes changing hands wouldn't be out of character -- but nobody's got any money, from what we read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hansel Posted June 25, 2012 Author Share Posted June 25, 2012 Given the number of offences (allegedly haha) committed over the years by the late RFC, a few brown envelopes changing hands wouldn't be out of character -- but nobody's got any money, from what we read. Celtic have got money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smack Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Death to the west Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Celtic have got money. fud & flaps have got a few million kicking about. for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadKiller Dog Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 To be fair it is a wee but harder for the Glasgow and surrounds clubs they likely will have local Orc supporting businessmen making threats to withdraw corporate funding etc . they have to live amid all the Orcs and there politics But now the east coast six have stood up they should follow . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Bapswent Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Are you renewing your season ticket for the new season? Done it long ago fella. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hansel Posted June 25, 2012 Author Share Posted June 25, 2012 Done it long ago fella. Good stuff. Me too. I was thinking about moving seats to the wheatfield, but ended up getting to know the folks sitting around me in the Gorgie stand, so I don't want to leave them feeling rejected. Hopefully the atmosphere picks up next season though, as it can be a bit quiet at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Gilbert Wauchope Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 None of the above. They don't have to say anything - so why should they. Stop looking for conspiracies that aren't there for something to get unhappy about. I'd prefer to take this view, if only because - and we should all remember this - when it comes to the Bigot brothers, it's us against them . And the us is everybody except them. At a time when we just might be looking at a major sea change in Scottish football,let's not bicker amongst ourselves. Whatever else you think about St Mirren, Motherwell et al, right now they're not the enemy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian Lambretta Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Why dont we just bin the weegie cowards are start our own league of 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hansel Posted June 25, 2012 Author Share Posted June 25, 2012 I'd prefer to take this view, if only because - and we should all remember this - when it comes to the Bigot brothers, it's us against them . And the us is everybody except them. At a time when we just might be looking at a major sea change in Scottish football,let's not bicker amongst ourselves. Whatever else you think about St Mirren, Motherwell et al, right now they're not the enemy. I see what you're saying here, but they've not shown solidarity with the us yet, so until then, I'm cynical about their intentions. I hope I'm wrong. A lot of these West coast teams supporters are showing solidarity, and are trying to influence the team they support, so I think that's positive. I hope their clubs listen to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Bapswent Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 I see what you're saying here, but they've not shown solidarity with the us yet, so until then, I'm cynical about their intentions. I hope I'm wrong. A lot of these West coast teams supporters are showing solidarity, and are trying to influence the team they support, so I think that's positive. I hope their clubs listen to them. I wouldn't expect any solidarity either.... the enemy of my enemy is my friend.... but as soon as it comes to kick-off there will be no love lost. The SPL will not become a big love-in. And although doing the right thing in the face of Rangers is an awesome and amazing thing to happen to the SPL - it is a massively unique and strange thing to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hansel Posted June 25, 2012 Author Share Posted June 25, 2012 I wouldn't expect any solidarity either.... the enemy of my enemy is my friend.... but as soon as it comes to kick-off there will be no love lost. The SPL will not become a big love-in. And although doing the right thing in the face of Rangers is an awesome and amazing thing to happen to the SPL - it is a massively unique and strange thing to happen. Of course. Once this is all over, they'll be no love lost. It'll be like post WW2 with the west and the soviets, once they'd given the Nazis a good beating. But until then, we have to see this through, and stick together for the greater good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Bapswent Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Of course. Once this is all over, they'll be no love lost. It'll be like post WW2 with the west and the soviets, once they'd given the Nazis a good beating. But until then, we have to see this through, and stick together for the greater good. But its already done.... the other clubs need not show any hand, rile any fans of their own club or otherwise. They don't need to rock the boat... or pick sides.... so they wont. They will stay in silent abstinence and mystery for as long as they need too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hansel Posted June 25, 2012 Author Share Posted June 25, 2012 But its already done.... the other clubs need not show any hand, rile any fans of their own club or otherwise. They don't need to rock the boat... or pick sides.... so they wont. They will stay in silent abstinence and mystery for as long as they need too. I'd still like the other clubs to vote no, it'd be a huge statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Fossil Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 St mirren as now owned by the fans have sent out a mail asking all fans involved in ownership scheme to vote so their decision I expect will be announced by end of week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Better call Saul Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Any chance someone can post vlads statement for me , am on the mobile and it's mission impossible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldar Hadzimehmedovic Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 We don't know if they've been posted missing or not. To be honest, the way to screw sevco the most would be to say nothing and just vote no on Jul 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amadjambo Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 It's no surprise that Hearts, Hibs, Dundee Utd and Aberdeen have come out as no's. The 4 clubs in the SPL who could survive without Rangers and perhaps even flourish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorgie rd eh11 Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 None of the above. They don't have to say anything - so why should they. Stop looking for conspiracies that aren't there for something to get unhappy about. How do you know it was none of the things put forward? I wish you would stop telling people what to do and think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Bapswent Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 How do you know it was none of the things put forward? I wish you would stop telling people what to do and think. Do you find conversations taxing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorgie rd eh11 Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Do you find conversations taxing? I find you a slavering bore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Bapswent Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 I find you a slavering bore. Yet you reply and get upset enough to have to comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorgie rd eh11 Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Yet you reply and get upset enough to have to comment. Yeah really upset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbo27 Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 St Mirren Vote Fairly damning vote stating that even if their club was themselves to face administration would you vote Newco and only 19% say they would...says it all really! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunxjambo Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 none of the clubs have to say how they will vote next week. it just happens that we decided to do it and others followed suit. what is important is HOW they vote on the 4th. Killie will vote Yes, Murderwell will in all probability vote NO after there wee referundum, as will St. Midden, who are in the process of giving fans a seat on their Board. Ross County may abstain. Sellick are in the difficult position:- their support says NO but Lawwell (& Desmond) are i think still humming & hawing. but since the vote is already against, they may just make it a NO as well. if they vote Yes it wont affect the outcome but the ramifications for them from their support would be to much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillieMitch Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 My western diddy club is having an open meeting of fans tomorrow night and is in the process of collating fans responses to a consultation. Not burying our heads in the sand. Reports are that the vote will be no - fingers crossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 Partick Thistle in the SFL have told them to RAM IT Well done I say... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie fenwick Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 Oi,leave me oot this! Mate your wifes name is Tracy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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