i8hibsh Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 I was thinking recently that Hearts and Hibs must be one of the least successful Capital City teams on the planet. Glasgow league titles ? 96 Edinburgh league titles ? 8 Den Haag in Holland too is very unsuccessful. The 14 London league clubs have not won as much as the 2 Manchester. Any others (there probably is) Sadly I see Glasgow is the most successful footballing city in the world with 207 combined trophies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 Cardiff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marooned In Oz Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 Berlin has a pretty piss poor record too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraigSN1 Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 Paris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambo89 Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 Rome for one. never won a chapmions league title/ very few league title wins. In fact there have only been 5 winners of the European Cup/ Champions League that have hailed from a Capital city...... Who can Name them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydney Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 Rome for one. never one a chapions league title. In fact there have only been 5 winners of the European Cup/ Champions League that have hailed from a Capital city...... Who can Name them? Madrid RS Belgrade S Bucharest Benfica? .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 Pre reunification, Bonn. Post, Berlin has hardly been dominant in the Bundesliga. Will take issue with the OP re The Hague being the capital of the Netherlands. Rome has had some success but not a patch on Turin or Milan, likewise Paris (I think!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted March 22, 2012 Author Share Posted March 22, 2012 Cardiff Most successful in Wales tho. Sorry I kinda mean in their own country Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownkg Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 Glasgow has some deductions coming though no ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 Rome for one. never won a chapmions league title/ very few league title wins. In fact there have only been 5 winners of the European Cup/ Champions League that have hailed from a Capital city...... Who can Name them? Madrid RS Belgrade S Bucharest Benfica? .. Ajax of Amsterdam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambo89 Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 Ajax of Amsterdam Correct!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 Correct!! Thus vindicating my point re the OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Draper Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 Berlin's a pretty good suggestion - Hertha haven't won the league since the 30s, apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 Berlin's a pretty good suggestion - Hertha haven't won the league since the 30s, apparently. Although in the DDR, the team with the most Oberliga titles was BFC Dynamo Berlin. So in a way, Berlin was a very successful capital city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriel Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 Only a guess, but I would imagine there might be a spread of title wins amongst teams in Sweden that play outside the capital. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bill Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 Go into any Edinburgh housing scheme on a summer's day and there's every chance you'll see kids wearing replica Rangers and Celtic tops, at least as much as Hearts and Hibs. Alternitavely, you have areas such as the city centre, Stockbrige, Barnton, Crammond, Corstorphine, Morningside, the Grange, Southside etc that probably has a only a very small percentage of people who are interested in football. I would guess that around 80% (possibly more) of Scottish football fans, be it regular attenders or otherwise support either half of the Old Firm; hence why the social demographic provides such a massive economic advantage towards the Old Firm. Football, a working-class game, became particularly popular in large, working class cities such as Glasgow, Newcastle, Liverpool, Manchester, the Ruhr Valley, northern Italy etc. Whereas Spain, England, Italy, France, Germany has a good spread of decent sized teams, Scotland, with a population of 5M stuggles to generate much competition whilst harbouring so many glory hunters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 Go into any Edinburgh housing scheme on a summer's day and there's every chance you'll see kids wearing replica Rangers and Celtic tops, at least as much as Hearts and Hibs. Alternitavely, you have areas such as the city centre, Stockbrige, Barnton, Crammond, Corstorphine, Morningside, the Grange, Southside etc that probably has a only a very small percentage of people who are interested in football. I would guess that around 80% (possibly more) of Scottish football fans, be it regular attenders or otherwise support either half of the Old Firm; hence why the social demographic provides such a massive economic advantage towards the Old Firm. Football, a working-class game, became particularly popular in large, working class cities such as Glasgow, Newcastle, Liverpool, Manchester, the Ruhr Valley, northern Italy etc. Whereas Spain, England, Italy, France, Germany has a good spread of decent sized teams, Scotland, with a population of 5M stuggles to generate much competition whilst harbouring so many glory hunters. Corstorphine?? mmmm.... full of football supporters. I think you`d be very surprised at the amount of people who like football in Edinburgh from more `leafy` areas.....they just probably don`t frequent games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.J Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 Corstorphine?? mmmm.... full of football supporters. It certainly is, and has been since I t'were a lad. Sadly more vermin creeping in now, however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpikeDudley Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 tried to start a "Corrie Rules" chant on the bus back home last night but it very quickly turned into the usual "Gorgie Rules" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alwaysthereinspirit Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 I was thinking recently that Hearts and Hibs must be one of the least successful Capital City teams on the planet. Glasgow league titles ? 96 Edinburgh league titles ? 8 Den Haag in Holland too is very unsuccessful. The 14 London league clubs have not won as much as the 2 Manchester. Any others (there probably is) Sadly I see Glasgow is the most successful footballing city in the world with 207 combined trophies. How many of the 207 are bought and paid for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Gilbert Wauchope Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 How many of the 207 are bought and paid for? They're all bought and paid for. The issue is with whose money? And how much tax is still due? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hackney Hearts Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 Canberra? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peebo Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 Brasilia is probably the best example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hackney Hearts Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 Vilnius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imeantasong Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 Vilnius. Now now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Prince William Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 Tbf there are more non captial cities than there are capital cities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadKiller Dog Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 Young Boys of Bern in Switzerland have not been that sucsessful compared with other swiss sides like Grasshoppers and FC basel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super_vlad Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 Although in the DDR, the team with the most Oberliga titles was BFC Dynamo Berlin. So in a way, Berlin was a very successful capital city. Ha. More rigged than the SPL! I do think that the east german football federation was the model that our own SFA have decided to follow for the last 50 years! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Currahee! Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 Legia Warsaw aren't the biggest or most successful team in Poland. Ruch Churzow and a few others have more titles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scabber Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 there are lots of countries that have small citys as there capitals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notorious BIG Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 London have excellent teams but its liverpool and Man UTD that dominate the Titles, Plus not a team from London has won the champs league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanliHearts Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 Ankaragucu from turkey. In the same boat as rangers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 Corstorphine?? mmmm.... full of football supporters. I think you`d be very surprised at the amount of people who like football in Edinburgh from more `leafy` areas.....they just probably don`t frequent games. Being a "leafy suburbanite" myself I can confirm my liking for football. I go too!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 moscow and vienna must rank highly in the most successful capital cities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNCASTLE Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 Corstorphine?? mmmm.... full of football supporters. I think you`ld be very surprised at the amount of people who like football in Edinburgh from more `leafy` areas.....they just probably don`t frequent games. When I was a wee boy I lived at 3 Lampacre Road Corstorphine, Jimmy Wardhaugh lived next door at 1 Lampacre. Hearts fans and players used to turn up all the time. In these days ( around '55 I think) Corstorphine was an enclave of Hearts support. The local Pinkhill Station ( who remembers that) was jammed ( no pun ) on match days. As a wee boy I thought all Hearts fans came from Corstorphine! It might be a spam belt now but not then. "Mr Wardhaugh " as my mother insisted took me to tynecastle and showed me the Cup in '56 and remember all the other players playing snooker upstairs in the old stand somewhere. People ask me why I am aHearts fan. I kept in touch with JW through his days at the Express and remember the day he died after an East Fife game at Bayview. But good God what a player, we will never see the likes again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winningways Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 Corstorphine?? mmmm.... full of football supporters. I think you`d be very surprised at the amount of people who like football in Edinburgh from more `leafy` areas.....they just probably don`t frequent games. Another football supporter originally from Corstorphine here , oh it can't be there are now about three on this thread and that's too many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsalllaughathobos Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 Although in the DDR, the team with the most Oberliga titles was BFC Dynamo Berlin. So in a way, Berlin was a very successful capital city. Absolutly superb badge, love it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Reekin' Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 When I was a wee boy I lived at 3 Lampacre Road Corstorphine, Jimmy Wardhaugh lived next door at 1 Lampacre. Hearts fans and players used to turn up all the time. In these days ( around '55 I think) Corstorphine was an enclave of Hearts support. The local Pinkhill Station ( who remembers that) was jammed ( no pun ) on match days. As a wee boy I thought all Hearts fans came from Corstorphine! It might be a spam belt now but not then. "Mr Wardhaugh " as my mother insisted took me to tynecastle and showed me the Cup in '56 and remember all the other players playing snooker upstairs in the old stand somewhere. People ask me why I am aHearts fan. I kept in touch with JW through his days at the Express and remember the day he died after an East Fife game at Bayview. But good God what a player, we will never see the likes again. I'll trump yer Pinkhill Station with Balgreen Halt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Gilbert Wauchope Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 When I was a wee boy I lived at 3 Lampacre Road Corstorphine, Jimmy Wardhaugh lived next door at 1 Lampacre. Hearts fans and players used to turn up all the time. In these days ( around '55 I think) Corstorphine was an enclave of Hearts support. The local Pinkhill Station ( who remembers that) was jammed ( no pun ) on match days. As a wee boy I thought all Hearts fans came from Corstorphine! It might be a spam belt now but not then. "Mr Wardhaugh " as my mother insisted took me to tynecastle and showed me the Cup in '56 and remember all the other players playing snooker upstairs in the old stand somewhere. People ask me why I am aHearts fan. I kept in touch with JW through his days at the Express and remember the day he died after an East Fife game at Bayview. But good God what a player, we will never see the likes again. Aye, but you had Jimmy O'Rourke running the Corstorphine Inn in the 70s, so it wasn't all Hearts bliss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarissa Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 Add these Oslo - 1 win for Valeranga (spelling?) is all since top league set up in 1991 Brussels - 1975 was the only time a local team won since the 1930s - their clubs kept folding/amalgamating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted March 22, 2012 Author Share Posted March 22, 2012 Bloody hell it is becoming aparent that infact the provincial teams are more successful. Why is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydney Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 Bloody hell it is becoming aparent that infact the provincial teams are more successful. Why is that? In democracies, provincial teams do well. In dictatorships (left and right wing), public money poured into teams fae the capital. Spain, Portugal, Eastern Europe. We need a Scottish dictator, with a liking for the capital and a team from the capital....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denny Crane Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Add these Oslo - 1 win for Valeranga (spelling?) is all since top league set up in 1991 Brussels - 1975 was the only time a local team won since the 1930s - their clubs kept folding/amalgamating Remind me which Belgian city Anderlecht play in again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaac Clarke Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Corstorphine?? mmmm.... full of football supporters. I think you`d be very surprised at the amount of people who like football in Edinburgh from more `leafy` areas.....they just probably don`t frequent games. Craigs Road...full of football fans. Plenty Old Firm fans though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southside1874 Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Does footballing cities perform better if their footballing association headquarters are based in that city Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bill Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Go into any Edinburgh housing scheme on a summer's day and there's every chance you'll see kids wearing replica Rangers and Celtic tops, at least as much as Hearts and Hibs. Alternitavely, you have areas such as the city centre, Stockbrige, Barnton, Crammond, Corstorphine, Morningside, the Grange, Southside etc that probably has a only a very small percentage of people who are interested in football. I would guess that around 80% (possibly more) of Scottish football fans, be it regular attenders or otherwise support either half of the Old Firm; hence why the social demographic provides such a massive economic advantage towards the Old Firm. Football, a working-class game, became particularly popular in large, working class cities such as Glasgow, Newcastle, Liverpool, Manchester, the Ruhr Valley, northern Italy etc. Whereas Spain, England, Italy, France, Germany has a good spread of decent sized teams, Scotland, with a population of 5M stuggles to generate much competition whilst harbouring so many glory hunters. Corstorphine?? mmmm.... full of football supporters. I think you`d be very surprised at the amount of people who like football in Edinburgh from more `leafy` areas.....they just probably don`t frequent games. Fair enough Debut4, but that's really slim pickings on your part to counter the general context of my point by pulling me up for using 'Corstorphine'. Let's take Corstorphine out of the arguement, although I meant Corstorphine as in the posh part, up the hill; not your Carrick Knowes and Broompark etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fxxx the SPFL Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Another football supporter originally from Corstorphine here , oh it can't be there are now about three on this thread and that's too many. I went out with a bird from Corstorpine in the seventies does that count. PS I live in deepest Trinity now that just shows that scaffs can move up the social ladder after my gorgie upbringing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 In democracies, provincial teams do well. In dictatorships (left and right wing), public money poured into teams fae the capital. Spain, Portugal, Eastern Europe. We need a Scottish dictator, with a liking for the capital and a team from the capital....... *cough* When do I start? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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