the jambo poet Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 just seen the u19s lost against Dunfermline 1-0 ...following their 3.1 defeat by St johnstone....I'm guessing that's them lost the title now unless celtic screw up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc4life1991 Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Yeah they need Celtic to slip up at some point if they are to win the title Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broughies tach Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Unfortunately Celtic won't slip up If you consider the amount of money they throw at their under 19's it's a good effort by our boys though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the geezer Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Believe 19's are playing Well' tomorrow - 1PM KO at Riccarton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross21 Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Believe 19's are playing Well' tomorrow - 1PM KO at Riccarton This is correct as far as I'm aware. I'm down in London for the West Ham game & FF is away also so appreciate anyone going along providing updates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidkeye Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 just seen the u19s lost against Dunfermline 1-0 ...following their 3.1 defeat by St johnstone....I'm guessing that's them lost the title now unlessCelticc screw up Surprised with the little dip in form, although good effort all the same against a Celtic youth side that is heavily financed. Still about development into the first team for everyone although it's obviously very difficult with the lack of the traditional stepping-stone platform of a reserve league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jett1998 Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 just seen the u19s lost against Dunfermline 1-0 ...following their 3.1 defeat by St johnstone....I'm guessing that's them lost the title now unless celtic screw up When you consider that they have had to cope with the loss of Jason Holt, David Smith and Jamie Walker for most of the season due to loans or first team duty the young Jambos have had a magnificent season ! It's all about developing players for the first team and I think we are doing not bad right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davie1980 Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Believe 19's are playing Well' tomorrow - 1PM KO at Riccarton Is this definately the correct kick off time. the hydc site says 12 noon kick off i was going to head through Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davie1980 Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 Is this definately the correct kick off time. the hydc site says 12 noon kick off i was going to head through ??????? Anyone? I don't want to be at this game an hour late/early Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambosr1985 Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 Its 1pm defo With regard to dip in form depends on who you listen to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davie1980 Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 Its 1pm defo With regard to dip in form depends on who you listen to. cheers mate there is no doubt 2 defeats counts as a dip in form as we were looking unstoppable for the majority of the season but there is no doubt we have good reason, the team has lost it's best players to loans and the first team squad and saturday saw us having to seriously reshuffle with mchattie and mullin suspended and mackay benched we played some nice stuff and kept the ball well, but dunfermline pressed well and won, unsurprizingly, with a set piece, as they had a centre forward who must have been about 6'4", in fact they were massive in comparison to the hearts team all over the park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 cheers mate there is no doubt 2 defeats counts as a dip in form as we were looking unstoppable for the majority of the season but there is no doubt we have good reason, the team has lost it's best players to loans and the first team squad and saturday saw us having to seriously reshuffle with mchattie and mullin suspended and mackay benched we played some nice stuff and kept the ball well, but dunfermline pressed well and won, unsurprizingly, with a set piece, as they had a centre forward who must have been about 6'4", in fact they were massive in comparison to the hearts team all over the park. you dont happen to know what the team line up was (including subs) btw? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davie1980 Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 you dont happen to know what the team line up was (including subs) btw? first half hamilton c paterson - a murdoch - j mcghee - r stewartc tobin - c kane - c tappings nicholson - d smith - b king shortly after half time we made a triple substitution and went 3-5-2 hamilton b mckay - a murdoch - j mcgheec paterson - a king - c kane - c tapping - b kingd carrick - s nicholson the best players were the more experienced guys like king, smith, kane, tapping, paterson and mckay when he came on paterson was hearts man of the match, there were a few good players for dunfermline, was impressed with the croutch look alike up front who gave the far shorter murdoch and mcghee troubles (b mckay looks by far our best centre half). c tobin gave away possession quite a bit and nicholson was quiet, with king posing the greater threat on the other wing. as i said earlier, Dunfermline were the much taller stronger side it was little surprize the goal was headed in from a corner. Hearts started slowly with dunfermline playing at a high tempo and getting forward quickly making good use of a striker that looked well over 6 foot. But hearts settled into the game and kept possession well, being patient and playing everything out, on the ground, building from the back. the goalie only punted it once in the first 85 minutes of the game. Dunfermline pressed well though throughout and when they forced an error they continued to move forward quickly and directly, creating a few chances and causing worry from set pieces, a good example of how to play against a good patient passing side and were arguably worth thier 1-0 win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ribble Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 the croutch look alike up front who gave the far shorter murdoch and mcghee troubles Wasn't it also Murdoch's first game back after being out since last April? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cactusman Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 Anyone got an update on today's game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambosr1985 Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 2-2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cactusman Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexton Hardcastle Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 Looks like that's the end of the challenge. Decent effort by all involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davie1980 Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 Wasn't it also Murdoch's first game back after being out since last April? it was his first game back, i think mcghee is pretty young and inexperienced at this level also, so to pair up against a massive and pretty useful striker was probably a big ask for the 2 of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davie1980 Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 well it was a 12 oclock kick off for a start, so i missed the opening 35 minutes, cheers guys the first half line up j hamilton f mullin - b mckay - c kane - k mchattie d hopkirk - c tobin - a king c paterson - c tapping - s nicholson we went in at half time 1-0 up and from what i could gather we were the better team first half the first 15 minutes of the second half was pretty even, motherwell scored (davie wasn't paying attention so it could have been a screamer....) after that we totally dominated play for the remainder of the half, with a mixture of neat passing play and some more direct play with darren getting his full backs and midfielders to play some good through balls to his front 3 who made regular runs in the channels billy king came off the bench and replaced paterson on the right and almost straight away put us back in the lead, he picked the ball up deep, released hopkirk (could have been tobin) with a through ball out wide, hopkirk got round his man and cut a low driven cross to the back post for billy to finish low into an empty net ryan stewart then came on for hopkirk (who had been impressive), calum tapping dropped from centre forward back into midfield with stewart replacing him up front we lost a cheap goal towards the end, motherwell with a free kick, floated in a diagonal to the back post, a group of players challenged for it and one motherwell player got up and knocked it across for someone to knock it in with a header, unmarked from 5 yards after the final whistle a frustrated darren murray was heard to say "how the **** did they get a point from that?" good question darren? a good effort from the lads and unfortunate to walk away without the full 3 points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 it was his first game back, i think mcghee is pretty young and inexperienced at this level also, so to pair up against a massive and pretty useful striker was probably a big ask for the 2 of them Would agree (though at times I have thought that McGhee has looked more confident and solid then you would expect from a 15 year old playing against players 3 or 4 years older them himself), I would say that McKay has established himself very well at the back this season, its no surprise that of the 20 games this season (not including todays one as I dont know the line up) he has started in all bar one and even that one he came on as a sub. Only 1 player has started every game for Hearts this season (again not counting today as I dont know the line-up) and that is Jack Hamilton in goals. A shame that the season is ending as it has with 2 losses and a draw (the first of the season) in the last 3 games. Will be interesting to see what happens next season, whether it is an under 19 league or under 20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUTOL Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 i think mcghee is pretty young and inexperienced at this level also, I think he's 15, or at the most 16, are the schools off, or how did he manage to get a day off to play fitba? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davie1980 Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 Would agree (though at times I have thought that McGhee has looked more confident and solid then you would expect from a 15 year old playing against players 3 or 4 years older them himself), I would say that McKay has established himself very well at the back this season, its no surprise that of the 20 games this season (not including todays one as I dont know the line up) he has started in all bar one and even that one he came on as a sub. Only 1 player has started every game for Hearts this season (again not counting today as I dont know the line-up) and that is Jack Hamilton in goals. A shame that the season is ending as it has with 2 losses and a draw (the first of the season) in the last 3 games. Will be interesting to see what happens next season, whether it is an under 19 league or under 20. never realised mcghee was so young, it really was a big ask on saturday then i heard from one of the supporters on saturday that brad mckay had only been dropped due to a minor fall out with darren during the week. but he came on and looked as impressive as ever, he started today and looked composed, he very much looks one of the best of the group, physically he looks as if he could move up and has a bit of everything, a good ball winner both on the deck and in the air, a good organiser and passes the ball quite comfortably Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davie1980 Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 I think he's 15, or at the most 16, are the schools off, or how did he manage to get a day off to play fitba? it was saturday he played bud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUTOL Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 it was saturday he played bud missed the match report for today and presumed it was today's match that was being talked about. Have we signed Hopkirk then? Was he here around Christmas/January playing as a trialist, think he's from England. Or am I getting mixed up, again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davie1980 Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 missed the match report for today and presumed it was today's match that was being talked about. Have we signed Hopkirk then? Was he here around Christmas/January playing as a trialist, think he's from England. Or am I getting mixed up, again. http://www.hydc.co.uk/david_hopkirk.html this lad played today, unsurprizingly getting called hoppy i thought he was one of the younger lads breaking through, but going by the profile he's actually 19, just signed from hamilton he played well along with adam king (who is really young) i wasn't too impressed with the lad tobin though, don't like to be overly critical of these youngsters, but he struggle on saturday and today as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ribble Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 A shame that the season is ending as it has with 2 losses and a draw (the first of the season) in the last 3 games. Will be interesting to see what happens next season, whether it is an under 19 league or under 20. Every chance it will continue as 19's, Celtic, Rangers and ICT are all against 20's because the SFA youth funding only applies up to u-19 level! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUTOL Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 http://www.hydc.co.uk/david_hopkirk.html this lad played today, unsurprizingly getting called hoppy i thought he was one of the younger lads breaking through, but going by the profile he's actually 19, just signed from hamilton he played well along with adam king (who is really young) i wasn't too impressed with the lad tobin though, don't like to be overly critical of these youngsters, but he struggle on saturday and today as well Yep, me getting mixed up again. I remember reading that we had signed 'Hoppy', from Hamilton. I've seen Tobin play once, thought he did well, kept passing and moving. Quite a small lightweight guy (a bit like Holt) but was tidy in possesion and strong in challenges. Is he not coming back from injury? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbee647 Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 Yep, me getting mixed up again. I remember reading that we had signed 'Hoppy', from Hamilton. I've seen Tobin play once, thought he did well, kept passing and moving. Quite a small lightweight guy (a bit like Holt) but was tidy in possesion and strong in challenges. Is he not coming back from injury? I recall Derek Ferguson talking this lad up on Sportsound one afternoon, how did we manage to sign him, as he appears to have been a regular in the Accies first team this season, how much did we have to pay for him ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 I recall Derek Ferguson talking this lad up on Sportsound one afternoon, how did we manage to sign him, as he appears to have been a regular in the Accies first team this season, how much did we have to pay for him ? He left Hamilton in September and has been without a club until he signed for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbee647 Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 He left Hamilton in September and has been without a club until he signed for us. Cheers, but I'm right about him playing in Accies first team , he is the same guy I'm thinking about ? The name was definitely Hopkirk or Hopkins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tartofmidlothian Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 Cheers, but I'm right about him playing in Accies first team , he is the same guy I'm thinking about ? The name was definitely Hopkirk or Hopkins. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Hopkirk Seems some good clubs were looking at him after his release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross21 Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 i wasn't too impressed with the lad tobin though, don't like to be overly critical of these youngsters, but he struggle on saturday and today as well Really disappointed to hear that about him. His season was ruined by injury so hopefully he is just not fit rather than anything more. His performance against Celtic at the end of last season was one of the finest I've seen at youth level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambosr1985 Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 The KO was meant to be 1pm but Well turned up saying it was 12.00 clock so they played at 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philt Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Tobin lost the ball twice in 45mins on sat, what game were you watching!nobody played well on sat but you chose one player to be critical about.If you "don't like to be over critical" then why criticies one lad!!!easier to say nowt. http://www.hydc.co.uk/david_hopkirk.html this lad played today, unsurprizingly getting called hoppy i thought he was one of the younger lads breaking through, but going by the profile he's actually 19, just signed from hamilton he played well along with adam king (who is really young) i wasn't too impressed with the lad tobin though, don't like to be overly critical of these youngsters, but he struggle on saturday and today as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonnicky Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Tobin lost the ball twice in 45mins on sat, what game were you watching!nobody played well on sat but you chose one player to be critical about.If you "don't like to be over critical" then why criticies one lad!!!easier to say nowt. I agree no need to mention the young lad , I thought he played ok and when he doesn't he works hard anyway also we need to support the young ones through the good games and bad it is all a learning curb for them you have to agree though guys it's been a great season for the under 19s , yes it's disapointing to run out of steam right at this crucial stage but if you take a step back and see what the young guns have done. So far they are the only side to beat Celtic and they beat them well they were the better side , they have taken all points from the gers and most importantly beat the hibs at riccarton and looking forward to hopefully doing the double.They play some cracking football and you have to give credit to Darren Murray for not dropping his standards and going for the ''long ball game''and playing the youngsters no matter the age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philt Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 I agree no need to mention the young lad , I thought he played ok and when he doesn't he works hard anyway also we need to support the young ones through the good games and bad it is all a learning curb for them you have to agree though guys it's been a great season for the under 19s , yes it's disapointing to run out of steam right at this crucial stage but if you take a step back and see what the young guns have done. So far they are the only side to beat Celtic and they beat them well they were the better side , they have taken all points from the gers and most importantly beat the hibs at riccarton and looking forward to hopefully doing the double.They play some cracking football and you have to give credit to Darren Murray for not dropping his standards and going for the ''long ball game''and playing the youngsters no matter the age. Totally agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the geezer Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 Any 19's game arranged for this weekend?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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