Nearly 3 full seasons

[The Merse]

Since we came from behind to win a match.

 

Not once this season, not once last season and only the first game the season before!

 

Burleys first game at Kilmarnock in August 05 being the last time we did so.

 

Incredible. If that statistic doesn't show you the lack of heart left in our team, nothing will.

 

Not sure if London Hearts could research this as it must be some kind of club record, and we're probably the only club in Britain which hasn't managed to come back to win a game in 3 years.

[Boab Mugabe]

Really pathetic stat.

[Nelly Terraces]

Add it to all the other records this regime has bestowed upon us, nearly every one of which is completely negative.

[Only a Game]

Since we came from behind to win a match.

 

Not once this season, not once last season and only the first game the season before!

 

Burleys first game at Kilmarnock in August 05 being the last time we did so.

 

Incredible. If that statistic doesn't show you the lack of heart left in our team, nothing will.

 

Not sure if London Hearts could research this as it must be some kind of club record, and we're probably the only club in Britain which hasn't managed to come back to win a game in 3 years.

 

Steady on !! There are still 5 games left. I'm sure we'll get the chance to win from behind in at least one of them !!;)

[K1874M]

Since we came from behind to win a match.

 

Not once this season, not once last season and only the first game the season before!

 

Burleys first game at Kilmarnock in August 05 being the last time we did so.

 

Incredible. If that statistic doesn't show you the lack of heart left in our team, nothing will.

 

Not sure if London Hearts could research this as it must be some kind of club record, and we're probably the only club in Britain which hasn't managed to come back to win a game in 3 years.

 

Incredible stat so sad for it to be true.

[Fourcandles]

Since we came from behind to win a match.

 

Not once this season, not once last season and only the first game the season before!

 

Burleys first game at Kilmarnock in August 05 being the last time we did so.

 

Incredible. If that statistic doesn't show you the lack of heart left in our team, nothing will.

 

Not sure if London Hearts could research this as it must be some kind of club record, and we're probably the only club in Britain which hasn't managed to come back to win a game in 3 years.

 

That is stunning and very sad Stat - Quite amazed at that.

 

[Buffalo Bill]

Maybe we just won lots of games straight from the off! :confused:

 

 

Buffalo Bill

 

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[Nelly Terraces]

Maybe we just won lots of games straight from the off! :confused:

 

 

Buffalo Bill

 

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Top be honest Buff, in season 1 we probably did, but that still leaves the last 2 seasons non-events to reflect that statistic. Truly pathetic and totally shameful.

 

Still, the players have given everything Fail has asked of them, so that's OK.

 

Criminal.

[Mr Romanov Saviour of HMFC]

That stat should be pinned on the changing room wall as a reminder (as if you could forget) and then the next time we fail to come from behind or show any sort of fight at all they should be docked wages or released with immediate effect.

[teepee]

that really is a shocking stat.

 

I agree that for the first season we did not have to come from behind to win games, but the same cannot be said for the last 2, it really does show the complete lack of any self belief at the club

[Jambo, Goodbye]

Well it's not too bad when you consider that the George Burley season we almost always scored 1st in every game so it wasn't possible to win after being a goal down

 

It isn't that bad on face value

 

last 2 season's have been shocking though

[BRY]

To be fair, we did come back from 2-0 down at Falkirk, to draw 2-2.

 

Remember, when Pressley scored 3 (one for Falkirk)?

[Hearts Heritage]

It isn't that surprising or unusual in the history of the club. I haven't got the stats for games from 1950 to 1996. I'll post up the ones that I do have but it isn't that common a scenario. I'll post up the facts tonight.

[Robertson9]

Since August 2005 how many games have we won compared to how many we have lost? should be another interesting stat, wonder if it balances 50/50?

[Chad Sexington]

Top be honest Buff, in season 1 we probably did, but that still leaves the last 2 seasons non-events to reflect that statistic. Truly pathetic and totally shameful.

 

Still, the players have given everything Fail has asked of them, so that's OK.

Criminal.

 

Careful mate or you'll have the Frail groupies after you.

 

Totally pathetic stat and an embarrassment to the club.

 

Just like the owner, head coach and first team.

[Nobreath]

Careful mate or you'll have the Frail groupies after you.

 

Totally pathetic stat and an embarrassment to the club.

 

Just like the owner, head coach and first team.

 

Cool another new clique, just what JKB needs. Who are the Frail groupies, or are you just being divisive for the sake of it?

[Hearts Heritage]

I may have been talking rubbish

 

Since 1996 Competitive games only

 

Wed 14 Aug 1996 Hearts 1 Stenhousemuir 1 LC

Thu 26 Dec 1996 Dunfermline Athletic 2 Hearts 3 L

Sat 28 Dec 1996 Hearts 4 Motherwell 1 L

Sat 04 Jan 1997 Raith Rovers 1 Hearts 2 L

Sat 22 Feb 1997 Hearts 3 Raith Rovers 2 L

Sat 10 May 1997 Hearts 3 Rangers 1 L

 

Sat 16 Aug 1997 Hearts 4 Aberdeen 1 L

Tue 19 Aug 1997 Raith Rovers 1 Hearts 2 LC

Sat 01 Nov 1997 Aberdeen 1 Hearts 4 L

Sun 23 Nov 1997 Hearts 5 Kilmarnock 3 L

Sat 21 Feb 1998 Motherwell 2 Hearts 4 L

 

Wed 09 Sep 1998 Hearts 1 Ross County 1 LC

Sat 21 Nov 1998 Hearts 2 Dunfermline Athletic 1 L

Tue 06 Apr 1999 Dundee United 1 Hearts 3 L

Wed 18 Aug 1999 Queen Of The South 1 Hearts 3 LC

 

Sat 29 Jan 2000 Hearts 3 Stenhousemuir 2 SC

Sat 05 Feb 2000 Celtic 2 Hearts 3 L

Sat 15 Apr 2000 Aberdeen 1 Hearts 2 L

 

Thu 28 Sep 2000 Hearts 3 VfB Stuttgart 2 E

Sat 25 Nov 2000 Hearts 3 Dundee 1 L

 

Wed 07 Feb 2001 Hearts 2 Berwick Rangers 1 SC

 

Sat 22 Dec 2001 Hearts 3 Motherwell 1 L

Sat 16 Mar 2002 Hibernian 1 Hearts 2 L

Sat 13 Apr 2002 Aberdeen 2 Hearts 3 L

 

Sun 15 Sep 2002 Hearts 4 Motherwell 2 L

Wed 25 Sep 2002 Stirling Albion 2 Hearts 3 LC

Sun 03 Nov 2002 Hibernian 1 Hearts 2 L

Sat 05 Apr 2003 Hearts 2 Dundee United 1 L

Sat 19 Apr 2003 Hearts 2 Celtic 1 L

 

Sat 01 Nov 2003 Hearts 3 Livingston 1 L

Tue 24 Feb 2004 Livingston 2 Hearts 3 L

Sat 27 Mar 2004 Hearts 3 Dundee 1 L

Sat 08 May 2004 Hearts 2 Dunfermline Athletic 1 L

Sun 16 May 2004 Hearts 3 Motherwell 2 L

 

Sat 15 Jan 2005 Hearts 3 Dundee United 2 L

Wed 19 Jan 2005 Hearts 2 Partick Thistle 1 SC

Tue 25 Jan 2005 Livingston 1 Hearts 2 L

 

Sat 30 Jul 2005 Kilmarnock 2 Hearts 4 L

 

 

By comparison the side of 1958

 

Sat 26 Oct 1957 Rangers 2 Hearts 3 L

Sat 08 Mar 1958 Queens Park 1 Hearts 4 L

Mon 10 Mar 1958 Hearts 3 Queen Of The South 1 L

Wed 30 Apr 1958 Hearts 2 Rangers 1 L

 

and 1986

 

Tue 27 Aug 1985 Hearts 2 Stirling Albion 1 LC

Sat 04 Jan 1986 Motherwell 1 Hearts 3 L

Sat 25 Jan 1986 Hearts 3 Rangers 2 SC

Sat 08 Feb 1986 Hearts 3 Dundee 1 L

Mon 03 Mar 1986 Hamilton Accies 1 Hearts 2 SC

[Hearts Heritage]

By season

 

By season

 

1890-91 4

1891-92 1

1892-93 2

1893-94 1

1894-95 3

1895-96 1

1896-97 3

1897-98 1

1898-99 3

1899-00 1

1901-02 2

1902-03 4

1903-04 3

1905-06 3

1906-07 1

1907-08 3

1908-09 1

1909-10 2

1910-11 1

1911-12 2

1912-13 1

1913-14 1

1914-15 4

1915-16 2

1916-17 5

1917-18 2

1918-19 2

1919-20 2

1920-21 3

1921-22 5

1922-23 2

1923-24 3

1924-25 2

1925-26 4

1926-27 4

1927-28 4

1928-29 2

1929-30 2

1930-31 3

1931-32 4

1932-33 1

1933-34 3

1934-35 5

1935-36 4

1936-37 5

1937-38 6

1938-39 1

1939-40 1

1940-41 1

1941-42 1

1943-44 5

1944-45 2

1945-46 3

1946-47 5

1947-48 3

1948-49 4

1949-50 6

 

1957-58 4

 

1985-86 5

 

1996-97 6

1997-98 5

1998-99 3

1999-00 4

2000-01 3

2001-02 3

2002-03 5

2003-04 5

2004-05 3

2005-06 1

[Chad Sexington]

Cool another new clique, just what JKB needs. Who are the Frail groupies, or are you just being divisive for the sake of it?

 

Moi? Divisive?

 

The very idea!!

 

[topcat]

Interesting, if mildly depressing, statistic.

 

For comparison how often have we lost after being ahead.

[Hilary Briss]

I knew it was a long time but that is ridiculous.

 

It shows the lack of character in the side.........no leaders on the park or from the sidelines.

[Erik]

Completely and utterly embarrassing.

[Shanks]

By season

 

By season

 

1890-91 4

1891-92 1

1892-93 2

1893-94 1

1894-95 3

...................

2002-03 5

2003-04 5

2004-05 3

2005-06 1

 

 

Thanks for taking the time to post this, unbelievable statistic.

[Nelly Terraces]

Gutless, no fight, no team spirit, leaderless. And a lack of football talent.

 

These ingredients, I believe, are what's required to go so long without managing a comeback from going behind in a game. Hearts have those ingredients in the bucketload.

 

Pathetic and lame HMFC.

[Buffalo Bill]

Gutless, no fight, no team spirit, leaderless. And a lack of football talent.

 

These ingredients, I believe, are what's required to go so long without managing a comeback from going behind in a game. Hearts have those ingredients in the bucketload.

 

Pathetic and lame HMFC.

 

As we stagger towards the finishing line and 8th position, my only hope Nelly, is that a line a drawn under this magnificent 'era'.

 

Like Mount Rushmore, history can carve out the faces of Malofeev, Korobotchedit, Angel Whatshisname and Vladimir Romanov.

 

The Greendykes Road slag heap in Broxburn would we a most apt place for this monument.

 

 

Buffalo Bill

 

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[topcat]

Based on London Hearts Statistics

It's striking that there's no apparent relationship between the number of games we came from behind to win and the League position attained

 

Champions (3 Seasons), Average 3.3 games

Runners up (9 Seasons), Average 3.0 games

Pos 3 (13 Seasons), Average 3.3 games

Pos 4 (11 Seasons), Average 2.9 games

Pos 5 (9 Seasons), Average 2.9 games

Pos 6 (5 Seasons), Average 3.0 games

Pos 7-11 (12 Seasons), 2.3 games

Pos 12+ (7 Seasons), 3.0 games

 

This makes sense as good Hearts teams have been less likely to find themselves behind in the first place and so are less likely to have won from such a position while worse sides have had more opportunities but have been less capable of taking them

[Hearts Heritage]

Based on London Hearts Statistics

It's striking that there's no apparent relationship between the number of games we came from behind to win and the League position attained

 

.....

 

This makes sense as good Hearts teams have been less likely to find themselves behind in the first place and so are less likely to have won from such a position while worse sides have had more opportunities but have been less capable of taking them

 

I'll set up a comparison showing all 7 combinations for the seasons that I have

so

 

WW

WD

WL

LL

LD

LW

0-0

[Statto]

A few interesting Stats involving other SPL and Hearts.

 

Hearts have went behind 15 times this season out of 33 games. We have only managed to come back in 1/3rd of those games (5), earning a draw.

 

Hibs have gone behind 2 less times, 13 out of 33 games. They have managed to win 2 and draw 3 of those games.

 

The surprising statistic that I found was European chasers Dundee United have NOT come back to get any points out of a game that their opponents have scored first. 9 games played, 0 wins and 0 draws.

 

 

But before all the Hibs fans come on and say they are the bigger team now, Hibs have lost 16 points this season from behing ahead in a match, while Hearts have only lost 13 points. Aberdeen are the worst team for losing leads, the have lost 19 points this season from being in front, they have drawn 5 and lost 3.

[Buffalo Bill]

Sat 10 May 1997 Hearts 3 Rangers 1 L

 

 

 

Davey, I pretty sure Hearts were a goal up (Cameron) before McInnes scored to make it 1-1.

 

 

....then it was the John Robertson show.

 

 

Buffalo Bill

 

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[Pants Shaton]

Craig Levein's Hearts teams never gave up.

 

But you can prove anything with facts.

[Statto]

Our record month by month this season (excluding April)

 

month - % of points won

 

September 75%

March 66.67%

January 58.33%

November 55.56%

February 50%

October 33.33%

August 16.67%

December 5.56%

 

before the 1/1 statement, there were 60 points available. After it there has been 39.

We earned 20 points pre1/1, 22 after.

 

pre 1/1 = 33.33%

post 1/1 = 56.41%

 

If we were to take the post 1/1 percentage, and calculate it for the whole seasons points, next season, if we were to earn the same percentage of points we have been earning since 1/1, we'd have 64 points come the end of 2008/09

 

Curently, Motherwell have 52 points, with 18 points available. If they were to win all of their games, they'd finish on 70. However, it is likely they will drop points, they have the worst form over the last 8 games out of all the top 6 teams. Basically what I'm saying, it is going to be closer than we all would have hoped next season in the battle for 3rd.

[topcat]

Our record month by month this season (excluding April)

 

month - % of points won

 

September 75%

March 66.67%

January 58.33%

November 55.56%

February 50%

October 33.33%

August 16.67%

December 5.56%

 

before the 1/1 statement, there were 60 points available. After it there has been 39.

We earned 20 points pre1/1, 22 after.

 

pre 1/1 = 33.33%

post 1/1 = 56.41%

 

If we were to take the post 1/1 percentage, and calculate it for the whole seasons points, next season, if we were to earn the same percentage of points we have been earning since 1/1, we'd have 64 points come the end of 2008/09

 

Curently, Motherwell have 52 points, with 18 points available. If they were to win all of their games, they'd finish on 70. However, it is likely they will drop points, they have the worst form over the last 8 games out of all the top 6 teams. Basically what I'm saying, it is going to be closer than we all would have hoped next season in the battle for 3rd.

 

Assuming we don't fall to bits in November for the 4th successive time.

[By The Light..]

BTTT

 

sack the board

[Horse]

maybe we should let all teams score 1st for the next 5 games and then see if we can get this monkey off our back for next season...at least something to try and achieve for the rest of the season:rolleyes:

[Hearts Heritage]

Numbers are

 

0-0 d,

winning winning

winning draw

winning losing

etc

 

 

I've highlighted those in bold where we have failed to come from behind to win.

 

NB no data from 1950 to 1996 (except for 58 and 86) so the relegation years not included

 

season d00 ww wd wl lw ld ll

 

 

1890-91 0 9 0 3 4 2 7

1891-92 0 15 1 0 1 5 3

1892-93 0 6 0 3 2 4 6

1893-94 0 9 2 1 1 2 3

1894-95 2 14 0 0 3 0 2

1895-96 0 15 0 3 1 0 4

1896-97 0 11 1 0 3 1 4

1897-98 1 9 0 2 1 3 5

1898-99 0 9 1 4 3 1 1

1899-00 1 12 3 3 1 1 3

1900-01 3 9 1 0 0 1 10

1901-02 1 10 1 1 2 2 6

1902-03 3 11 3 1 4 3 5

1903-04 0 15 1 1 3 2 5

1904-05 0 12 2 3 0 1 10

1905-06 0 19 1 3 3 5 2

1906-07 6 14 5 2 1 5 9

1907-08 1 10 4 4 3 1 14

1908-09 2 12 2 5 1 4 10

1909-10 2 12 4 3 2 3 12

1910-11 3 7 3 6 1 3 13

1911-12 2 17 4 1 2 4 10

1912-13 3 19 3 0 1 1 11

1913-14 4 22 3 2 1 1 6

1914-15 1 21 4 1 4 2 3

1915-16 2 18 2 4 2 2 6

1916-17 2 9 0 3 5 2 17

1917-18 0 12 2 1 2 2 15

1918-19 4 15 1 4 2 4 8

1919-20 2 13 3 0 2 4 16

1920-21 7 18 3 1 3 3 11

1921-22 4 7 3 2 5 5 17

1922-23 4 10 5 2 2 6 11

1923-24 6 14 3 1 3 2 14

1924-25 2 11 6 5 2 3 11

1925-26 1 18 5 0 4 4 10

1926-27 4 8 2 5 4 5 11

1927-28 2 18 2 0 4 4 11

1928-29 0 17 5 2 2 4 9

1929-30 2 16 5 8 2 4 8

1930-31 0 17 2 4 3 4 10

1931-32 3 14 1 2 4 1 15

1932-33 5 25 2 2 1 3 8

1933-34 4 16 3 3 3 4 9

1934-35 1 18 3 1 5 8 8

1935-36 0 16 4 3 4 3 8

1936-37 0 21 1 3 5 2 9

1937-38 3 19 1 3 6 2 4

1938-39 0 20 2 4 1 4 8

1939-40 0 9 2 0 1 3 3

1940-41 0 10 2 2 1 3 7

1941-42 0 7 2 2 1 1 3

1942-43 0 9 3 2 0 1 7

1943-44 1 9 3 1 5 3 7

1944-45 0 10 2 1 2 5 5

1945-46 1 6 1 2 3 5 9

1946-47 1 13 0 1 5 3 6

1947-48 1 12 2 3 3 4 11

1948-49 0 13 4 6 4 1 7

1949-50 0 16 2 3 6 3 6

 

 

1957-58 2 29 2 1 4 3 2

 

1985-86 1 21 4 3 5 5 5

 

1996-97 6 13 3 2 6 4 12

1997-98 2 21 7 0 5 1 8

1998-99 4 12 1 1 3 5 18

1999-00 4 15 3 4 4 2 10

2000-01 4 17 1 2 3 7 15

2001-02 1 12 2 2 3 4 17

2002-03 1 16 3 2 5 5 11

2003-04 3 18 4 1 5 5 10

2004-05 5 17 3 2 3 6 17

2005-06 2 27 1 2 1 5 7

2006-07 6 20 3 4 0 3 12

2007-08 2 14 3 3 0 5 12

[Guest saints]

A few interesting Stats involving other SPL and Hearts.

 

Hearts have went behind 15 times this season out of 33 games. We have only managed to come back in 1/3rd of those games (5), earning a draw.

 

Hibs have gone behind 2 less times, 13 out of 33 games. They have managed to win 2 and draw 3 of those games.

 

The surprising statistic that I found was European chasers Dundee United have NOT come back to get any points out of a game that their opponents have scored first. 9 games played, 0 wins and 0 draws.

 

But before all the Hibs fans come on and say they are the bigger team now, Hibs have lost 16 points this season from behing ahead in a match, while Hearts have only lost 13 points. Aberdeen are the worst team for losing leads, the have lost 19 points this season from being in front, they have drawn 5 and lost 3.

 

By my reckoning, most of those points lost from in front would have been under six pack man. Almost all of the games Put-a-line-on has managed have been decided by the first goal, except a home game against Aberdeen where Hibs should have been buried in the first half, but eventually won 3-1.

 

Aberdeen being bad at holding leads isn't surprising because they have been very poor defensively this season.

[jamborleystatto]

the best 1 was when we were 2down at darkheid(viduka2) he missed a sitter 2yards just b4 half time,we won 3/2 naysmith screamer and mickey cameron pen late on,think it was 1999 ish.

[Hearts Heritage]

Davey, I pretty sure Hearts were a goal up (Cameron) before McInnes scored to make it 1-1.

 

 

....then it was the John Robertson show.

 

 

Buffalo Bill

 

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You are right of course.

 

 

I've got the correct times but my scoring order was wrong.

 

http://www.londonhearts.com/scores/games/19970510.html#scseq

[The Establishment]

We have now won from behind this season.

 

Maybe we should have more of these negative stat threads

[Dirk Diggler]

the best 1 was when we were 2down at darkheid(viduka2) he missed a sitter 2yards just b4 half time,we won 3/2 naysmith screamer and mickey cameron pen late on,think it was 1999 ish.

 

Yep, I was in Newcastle on a lads weekend away and sung my heart out following that result coming through.

 

I still maintain that was the reason for 'Travelodge' putting an extra quid on the price of a room the following week.

 

It was only a wee bit spew.

 

[Ivan Drago]

We have now won from behind this season.

 

Maybe we should have more of these negative stat threads

 

D-McG should start a thread called 'Nearly 3 full seasons since we had a manager'

[derryjambo]

the best 1 was when we were 2down at darkheid(viduka2) he missed a sitter 2yards just b4 half time,we won 3/2 naysmith screamer and mickey cameron pen late on,think it was 1999 ish.

 

That game was Feb 5th 2000, I know this because my daughter was born on this day, it was a very long labour for my Mrs and I was listening to the radio through it all.