Boomstick Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Bored of it already tbh. Starts in about three hours. It's aggravating. How am I going to pretend I know about stuff now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.J Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Bored of it already tbh. Starts in about three hours. It's aggravating. How am I going to pretend I know about stuff now? What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomstick Posted January 18, 2012 Author Share Posted January 18, 2012 What? Wikipedia are having a 'blackout' over the next 24 hours in pretest at some US piracy laws...yarrr... When you visit the site after about 5am it'll just be a page explaining why you can't use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peebo Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Fear not, on the 10 o'clock news on one of my local TV channels they are going to reveal "how to get around it". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.J Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Consequences will never be the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest C00l K1d Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Is this affecting wikia too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidkeye Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 I wouldn't say too many people rely on it daily, you could obviously find the information your looking for elsewhere pretty quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibrahim Tall Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 It's only the English version thats down, so if you know another language thats one way around it atleast. As already mentioned i doubt it would be critical to anyone if wiki wasn't there anyway, all the information is still online anyway just it would take a few seconds more to find it. Tried to use it this morning to prove Mauro Zarate hadn't played for Newcastle after i'd read an article calling him a 'former Birmingham and Newcastle star' and it must have took all of about 30 seconds to find the information elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¼½¾ Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 To get round it. From the blackout page, hit the back arrow and click the cross to stop the blackout page from reloading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Buaben Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Still works on my phone with no blackout just a message at the top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcus Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Is it still possible to access Wikipedia in any way?The Wikipedia community, as part of their request to the Wikimedia Foundation to carry out this protest, asked us to ensure that we make English Wikipedia accessible in some way during an emergency. The English Wikipedia will be accessible on mobile devices and smart phones. You can also view Wikipedia normally by completely disabling JavaScript in your browser, as explained on this Technical FAQ page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sten Guns Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 25 million users a day according to the radio. I love a bit of Wiki. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The People's Chimp Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 So all those moaning about it are in favour of the laws aye? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I P Knightley Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 If you're stuck on anything, just ASK I P. Post your enquiries up here and I'll furnish you with the answer. Got a bit on this morning so some answers may be slower than others. To help you on your way, here are a few answers that might help you on your way. 1948 (ironically) Lederhosen Christian Bernholdt The battle of Sedgemoor Standardised contracts to buy or sell commodities, traded on one of a few exchanges Anthrax 1989 - 1992 Sir Terry Burns $33,000,000 44,836 (in 2009) Navy with broad red and narrow yellow diagonal stripes 1902 (as if you didn't already know) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsmak Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Bored of it already tbh. Starts in about three hours. It's aggravating. How am I going to pretend I know about stuff now? At least they are trying to get their point across.... (and we seem to be missing it completely) If this bill is past, Wiki, Google, Yahoo etc will no longer be allowed to have any links to places like MegaVideo, the Pirate Bay, ... anything where there might be the slightest chance of copyright infringement. And porn. Basically, if the bill is past in the USA - then the internet will be a lot less interesting... And homely, and christian.... You might even end up with sights like http://www.venganza.org/ blocked because they are against god...... Its the same as the poker bill that was passed a few years ago... It will feck things up loads! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoJack Horseman Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 http://en.m.wikipedia.org/ to get around it in the meantime. I don't think getting around it defeats the point. Wikipedia is a massive website and will definitely get the conversation around SOPA/PIPA going amongst those that probably haven't heard of it yet. I'm more concerned about Reddit's blackout. No way around it and it starts at 1pm for 12 hours. I might have to actually get some work done this afternoon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sterling Archer Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Lawson is gutted.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jb101 Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Sicki down.No extension to Joke of the thread.? Much more serious IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Petition against censorship of the internet: http://www.avaaz.org/en/save_the_internet/?tta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2NaFish Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 So all those moaning about it are in favour of the laws aye? it's a pretty outrageous law. i'd be appalled if it was to be happening in britain. god knows how i'd feel if i was an american who'd be brought up with their own brand of idealism. having spoken to a few, for some unfathomable reason, it's not getting much coverage. i was a bit grumpy when i accidently did a wiki search half an hour ago but if it raises awareness then i'm all for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsychocAndy Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 If you're stuck on anything, just ASK I P. Post your enquiries up here and I'll furnish you with the answer. Got a bit on this morning so some answers may be slower than others. To help you on your way, here are a few answers that might help you on your way. 1948 (ironically) Lederhosen Christian Bernholdt The battle of Sedgemoor Standardised contracts to buy or sell commodities, traded on one of a few exchanges Anthrax 1989 - 1992 Sir Terry Burns $33,000,000 44,836 (in 2009) Navy with broad red and narrow yellow diagonal stripes 1902 (as if you didn't already know) Damo Suzuki is it his birthday today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Plissken Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Lawson is gutted.... Don't think he's posted today... coincidence? If you want to use it, just refresh the page and click stop before the blackout reloads. I've just done it with no problems, coincidently when I was searching for a list of supporters of SOPA. Hopefully common sense will prevail and it won't get passed, there are some very strong opponents to the bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gershwin Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 It threatens the whole notion of social media and should be stopped. To think they tried to sneak it through the Senate without public consultation. *****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 It threatens the whole notion of social media and should be stopped. To think they tried to sneak it through the Senate without public consultation. *****. In Britain they did a similar thing with the Digital Act. Chucked a few questionable amendments (all handled by Mandleson's grubby hands) into it last minute and got it passed as it was the period before an election which MPs just pass bills to clear the back log before parliment closes. No debate, no time to look into it. The American bill is even worse and threatens the whole concept of the internet, I am surprised that it cant be challenged by free speech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southside1874 Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 In Britain they did a similar thing with the Digital Act. Chucked a few questionable amendments (all handled by Mandleson's grubby hands) into it last minute and got it passed as it was the period before an election which MPs just pass bills to clear the back log before parliment closes. No debate, no time to look into it. The American bill is even worse and threatens the whole concept of the internet, I am surprised that it cant be challenged by free speech. It has been challenged constantly but never got near this before...... censorship............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Harris Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 At least they are trying to get their point across.... (and we seem to be missing it completely) If this bill is past, Wiki, Google, Yahoo etc will no longer be allowed to have any links to places like MegaVideo, the Pirate Bay, ... anything where there might be the slightest chance of copyright infringement. And porn. Basically, if the bill is past in the USA - then the internet will be a lot less interesting... And homely, and christian.... You might even end up with sights like http://www.venganza.org/ blocked because they are against god...... Its the same as the poker bill that was passed a few years ago... It will feck things up loads! it's nothing to do with porn - or making things "homely, and christian". You make it sound like some conservative initiated conspiracy when it's really greedy organisations like the MPAA and RIAA trying to buy laws to preserve their outdated business models with no thought for the consequences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Great breakdown of the implications here: http://blog.reddit.com/2012/01/technical-examination-of-sopa-and.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsmak Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 it's nothing to do with porn - or making things "homely, and christian". You make it sound like some conservative initiated conspiracy when it's really greedy organisations like the MPAA and RIAA trying to buy laws to preserve their outdated business models with no thought for the consequences. I agree,, But I also think (IMO) that the American leadership would abuse such powers especially if the Republicans get in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester™ Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Great breakdown of the implications here: http://blog.reddit.c...of-sopa-and.htm Link doesnt work there Rab. I would certainly be interested in reading a more in depth analysis of the situation though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gershwin Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Link doesnt work there Rab. I would certainly be interested in reading a more in depth analysis of the situation though. There was a good article in the guardian yesterday, but I can't find it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-16623831 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoJack Horseman Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Link doesnt work there Rab. I would certainly be interested in reading a more in depth analysis of the situation though. Try again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gershwin Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Here's some monotone bloke taking us through the issue... http://vimeo.com/31100268 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester™ Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Try again. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsmak Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 boooooo to the americans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 it's nothing to do with porn - or making things "homely, and christian". You make it sound like some conservative initiated conspiracy when it's really greedy organisations like the MPAA and RIAA trying to buy laws to preserve their outdated business models with no thought for the consequences. Completely agree with you. Piracy is a big issue for the music and film industry but there is little give and take in the way they have handled it. They miss the main concept that the internet has changed things completely, as you say the business models are outdated. You dont change people and their use of piracy by barking at them and trying to force draconian laws in the hope you can scare them. Laws are also a problem as the speed the internet changes means that a law can become outdated quickly (for example the UK's digital act tried to clamp down on piracy with a view towards torrents, now streaming is the main way and there is nothing really in the act that directly deals with that.) So you need to use the carrot to attract people away from piracy, it means new price structures that are appealing and new ways to quickly move with technology. It was interesting to hear Mick Jagger recently talk about the music industry and his point is that it had peaked in the level it made money, he said before the mid 60s no one made much money from music, and he sees the industry being the same from now on (but thought that would be a good thing in terms of creative output.) The companies have to bite the bullet with how their business models are based and look to start again with modern and dynamic plans, it may mean less profit in the short run but if they do it properly and look to latch on to changes in technology quickly then they will be sustainable and help deal with piracy in a way that wins people back (rather then try to scare them.) As agree with bigsmak, the implications of such a bill has serious implications for certain governments getting in. The US government would lose the right to criticise other countries who censor what their citzens see on the internet (for example China, Iran, North Korea etc) if at the same time they have made sure they have the ability to censor what they want. Last year the internet allowed revolutions in a number of Middle Eastern countries, the ability to show footage within countries of government abuse allowed a wider population to see things which normally be hard under traditional broadcasters who required a reporter to be there at the right time, social media allowed people to quickly arrange protests and vent anger. This new bill doesn't seek to stamp this out but it puts in place the implements to do so if needed (even if it is not the intended purpose of those who create the bill.) As you say if a very conservative Government came in and felt that they didn't like certain things on the internet they could easily use these powers. America needs to learn that the internet needs to be handled carefully as it is an incredible human invention which change things, if you start putting checks to censor some things your not happy with (though there are some understandable extremes which should be at least monitored) then you take away what makes it unique and powerful. Like plans Australia and Britain have to put an opt-in option when you sign up with a new internet provider just to allow you to see sites for 18+ in the name of protecting children, it would be a very tough task to regulate all those sites and you may censor some which are meant for children and stigma people who opt-in if a list was leaked (like what happened when the law firm who tried to sue people for downloading porn via torrents.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoJack Horseman Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Holy wall-of-text Batman! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Le Clos Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 It threatens the whole notion of social media and should be stopped. To think they tried to sneak it through the Senate without public consultation. *****. As long as there will still be rakes of porn on the tinterweb, I really couldn't give a shiny shite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ribery's Face Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 music + dvds @ rip off prices. torrentz will NEVER die Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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